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Shane Mosley
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I tell u what, these fighters today ain't even trying 2be the best. They so scared 2 damage the records & lose fights. Wrong profession kids
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Shane Mosley
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I never ducked a fight in my life. Never been scared 2take anyone at ANY time. Injured, half my age, whatever. The glory is gone in that now
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Shane Mosley
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I tell u what, these fighters today ain't even trying 2be the best. They so scared 2 damage the records & lose fights. Wrong profession kids
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Shane Mosley
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I never ducked a fight in my life. Never been scared 2take anyone at ANY time. Injured, half my age, whatever. The glory is gone in that now
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Shane Mosley
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I'm matching my undercard &the fear in these kids hearts is sickening. I actually heard "oh no he is far to good, do you have anyone easier"
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Shane Mosley
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No lil Homie. I don't have anyone easier. If you have the same record and your #10 in the world you better man up and throw smh These Kids
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I'm matching my undercard &the fear in these kids hearts is sickening. I actually heard "oh no he is far to good, do you have anyone easier"
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Shane Mosley
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No lil Homie. I don't have anyone easier. If you have the same record and your #10 in the world you better man up and throw smh These Kids
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It seems like he's talking about having trouble matchmaking for his up and coming fighters. Unless there's more to his tweets where something comes up about Floyd. This line coming from fighters "oh no he is far to good, do you have anyone easier" is completely ridiculous.
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I'm surprised no one has commented on Peter Quillin's next opponent the male stripper who isn't even ranked top 50.
With that and Stevenson's next opponent, the rumored Deontay Wilder opponent and a few others, it's time to admit Al Haymon matchmaking has a serious problem. Yeah it's free boxing but that doesn't mean we shouldn't complain, I can get lot's of things in life for free that aren't worth it, I can go dumpster diving for my dinner for example or I can go to the store and buy something I actually want.
Look at PBC's upcoming line-up:
Tarver vs Cunningham
Bute vs di luisa
Mares vs Santa Cruz
Dirrell vs Rubio
Trout vs Joey Hernandez
Stevenson vs Karpency
Quillin vs Zerafa
K9 vs Charlo
One good fight. Add Deontay Wilder vs bum and we gotta ask ourselves wtf is Haymon doing? All this talent and he's making these fights? Makes no sense.
One good fight though they are talking about is Broner vs Khabib Allakhverdiev on October 3rd for a vacant 140 title. That's a solid fight. Idk why but Haymon seems to match Broner in tough fights.
So overall the matchmaking just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. A couple good fights here and there with a bunch of OK to flat out terrible fights. They need to fix this.
With that and Stevenson's next opponent, the rumored Deontay Wilder opponent and a few others, it's time to admit Al Haymon matchmaking has a serious problem. Yeah it's free boxing but that doesn't mean we shouldn't complain, I can get lot's of things in life for free that aren't worth it, I can go dumpster diving for my dinner for example or I can go to the store and buy something I actually want.
Look at PBC's upcoming line-up:
Tarver vs Cunningham
Bute vs di luisa
Mares vs Santa Cruz
Dirrell vs Rubio
Trout vs Joey Hernandez
Stevenson vs Karpency
Quillin vs Zerafa
K9 vs Charlo
One good fight. Add Deontay Wilder vs bum and we gotta ask ourselves wtf is Haymon doing? All this talent and he's making these fights? Makes no sense.
One good fight though they are talking about is Broner vs Khabib Allakhverdiev on October 3rd for a vacant 140 title. That's a solid fight. Idk why but Haymon seems to match Broner in tough fights.
So overall the matchmaking just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. A couple good fights here and there with a bunch of OK to flat out terrible fights. They need to fix this.
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How can you not be disappointed when PBC has these upcoming main events? All mismatches:Bute-Di Luisa, Dirrell-Rubio, Trout-Hernandez (more)
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Dan Rafael
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Stevenson-Karpency, Quillin-Zerafa, Wilder-TBA. Other than Mares-Santa Cruz PBC sked is poor.I'm simply keeping it real. No hate. Just real.
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How can you not be disappointed when PBC has these upcoming main events? All mismatches:Bute-Di Luisa, Dirrell-Rubio, Trout-Hernandez (more)
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Dan Rafael
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Stevenson-Karpency, Quillin-Zerafa, Wilder-TBA. Other than Mares-Santa Cruz PBC sked is poor.I'm simply keeping it real. No hate. Just real.
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D @danr afaelespn is there intent to build "indestructible" fighters to sell ppv's?
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Dan Rafael
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J @Jet Dreamer09 How is it not?????????????????????????
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D @danr afaelespn Dirrell is coming off a lost to Badou Jack and hasn't reached a elite status yet, Rubio is a good fight to see if he can...
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D @danr afaelespn is there intent to build "indestructible" fighters to sell ppv's?
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Dan Rafael
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J @Jet Dreamer09 How is it not?????????????????????????
Geo Harris J @Jet Dreamer09
D @danr afaelespn Dirrell is coming off a lost to Badou Jack and hasn't reached a elite status yet, Rubio is a good fight to see if he can...
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D @danr afaelespn algerei PAC? Rios PAC? Santa Cruz vs everyone at GBP? Kell Brook vs everyone except Porter? It goes both ways stop hating
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I'll give PBC credit for some quality matches so far: Garcia-Peterson, Lee-Quillin, Thurman-Gurrero, Broner-Porter but not enough so far.
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D @danr afaelespn algerei PAC? Rios PAC? Santa Cruz vs everyone at GBP? Kell Brook vs everyone except Porter? It goes both ways stop hating
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I'll give PBC credit for some quality matches so far: Garcia-Peterson, Lee-Quillin, Thurman-Gurrero, Broner-Porter but not enough so far.
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I hate the logic that because other promoters have made crappy fights that makes it ok.
Plus those crappy fights mentioned - Pac vs Algieri, Pac vs Rios - those two fights were against champions and former champions, not against unranked male strippers and garbage men. Santa Cruz under Golden Boy was still with Haymon and Oscar was trying to get LSC to fight good opponents, even against Rigondeaux but Haymon rejected them. Also the crappy Golden Boy fights were typically for his up and comers, not champions and contenders.
Dirrell vs Rubio is not a good fight just because Dirrell lost his last fight, Rubio is not a super middleweight.
It's not hating for wanting a better quality product. I've been critical of Haymon prior to PBC, because he consistently gave us a shitty product, but with PBC I WANT him to be successful because boxing on free TV is awesome, but in order for it to be successful there needs to be a consistently good product, not one good fight out of every ten. He has the talent and the numbers, what I'm asking for isn't crazy and more fans will tune in to a good product versus a bad product. I want to see PBC change the game, not give us more of the same. And that's the difference between Haymon making crappy fights versus every other promoter who makes crappy fights - Haymon has something no one else has, so make something out of it! He has an opportunity that no one else has, it's more important what he does versus what Kell Brooks shitty English promoter does in the UK.
Plus those crappy fights mentioned - Pac vs Algieri, Pac vs Rios - those two fights were against champions and former champions, not against unranked male strippers and garbage men. Santa Cruz under Golden Boy was still with Haymon and Oscar was trying to get LSC to fight good opponents, even against Rigondeaux but Haymon rejected them. Also the crappy Golden Boy fights were typically for his up and comers, not champions and contenders.
Dirrell vs Rubio is not a good fight just because Dirrell lost his last fight, Rubio is not a super middleweight.
It's not hating for wanting a better quality product. I've been critical of Haymon prior to PBC, because he consistently gave us a shitty product, but with PBC I WANT him to be successful because boxing on free TV is awesome, but in order for it to be successful there needs to be a consistently good product, not one good fight out of every ten. He has the talent and the numbers, what I'm asking for isn't crazy and more fans will tune in to a good product versus a bad product. I want to see PBC change the game, not give us more of the same. And that's the difference between Haymon making crappy fights versus every other promoter who makes crappy fights - Haymon has something no one else has, so make something out of it! He has an opportunity that no one else has, it's more important what he does versus what Kell Brooks shitty English promoter does in the UK.
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Idk 206 fat dan and steve kim are PBC hater to me and let's not forget it's only been 5 months since the birth of pbc and look at what we have had List of Premier Boxing Champions good matchups & good fights since they began March 7th, 2015:
Garcia vs Peterson
Guerrero vs Martinez
Lee vs Quillen
Arreola vs Harper
Thurman vs Guerrero
Berto vs Lopez
Broner vs Porter
Dirrell vs Jack
Harrison vs Nelson
Khan vs Algieri
Jhonson vs Cota
Jackson vs Laurente
Kameda vs McDonnell
Vargas vs Omotoso
Payano vs Warren
Dirrell vs Degale
Figueroa vs Burns
Frampton vs Gonzalez
Fortuna vs Vasquez
I dont see HBO or Showtime putting on as many good fights this year, so I never understand where the criticism of PBC as a WHOLE comes from. Individual mismatch matchups, heavily favored for the A-Side? Yes...blast em for making the fight, I do it too. However, imo, Haymon's PBC has been much better than any other Boxing Promotion/Cable channel this year and it isnt even close
Garcia vs Peterson
Guerrero vs Martinez
Lee vs Quillen
Arreola vs Harper
Thurman vs Guerrero
Berto vs Lopez
Broner vs Porter
Dirrell vs Jack
Harrison vs Nelson
Khan vs Algieri
Jhonson vs Cota
Jackson vs Laurente
Kameda vs McDonnell
Vargas vs Omotoso
Payano vs Warren
Dirrell vs Degale
Figueroa vs Burns
Frampton vs Gonzalez
Fortuna vs Vasquez
I dont see HBO or Showtime putting on as many good fights this year, so I never understand where the criticism of PBC as a WHOLE comes from. Individual mismatch matchups, heavily favored for the A-Side? Yes...blast em for making the fight, I do it too. However, imo, Haymon's PBC has been much better than any other Boxing Promotion/Cable channel this year and it isnt even close
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This isn't impressive, there are only a few good fights here with some OK fights and some cherry picks that just so happened to be decent fights. Only the two I bolded are A class fights as well.
Showtime has been destroyed, so might as well just remove them completely. HBO is typically more about quality vs quantity, but again I'm not here to compare I'm talking only about PBC matchmaking which so far has made little to no sense.
I disagree, I see more quality for the most part with HBO, with exception to Kovalev's last mandatory fight and a couple others like Cotto vs Geale. With HBO so far we've got:
Mayweather vs Pacquiao (PPV, HBO/SHO)
Canelo vs Kirkland
Klitschko vs Bryant Jennings
Golovkin vs Murray
Golovkin vs Monroe
Golovkin vs Lemieux (ppv)
Kovalev vs Pascal
Cotto vs Geale
Cotto vs Canelo (ppv)
Matthysse vs Ruslan
Timothy Bradley vs Vargas
Nicholas Walters vs. Miguel Marriaga
Terrance Crawford vs Dulorme
Mike Alvarado vs. Brandon Rios
Matthysse vs Viktor Postol
Klitschko vs Tyson Fury
And that's not including some good undercard fights too. Also it's worth pointing out HBO has a very limited amount of fighters they can show now with the mass exodus to PBC.
My concern here is PBC matchmaking is really bad, they make fights that just don't make any sense and often some really bad fights that are terrible style clashes. There is no real rhyme or reason to what they are doing. They gotta straighten this stuff out
Showtime has been destroyed, so might as well just remove them completely. HBO is typically more about quality vs quantity, but again I'm not here to compare I'm talking only about PBC matchmaking which so far has made little to no sense.
I disagree, I see more quality for the most part with HBO, with exception to Kovalev's last mandatory fight and a couple others like Cotto vs Geale. With HBO so far we've got:
Mayweather vs Pacquiao (PPV, HBO/SHO)
Canelo vs Kirkland
Klitschko vs Bryant Jennings
Golovkin vs Murray
Golovkin vs Monroe
Golovkin vs Lemieux (ppv)
Kovalev vs Pascal
Cotto vs Geale
Cotto vs Canelo (ppv)
Matthysse vs Ruslan
Timothy Bradley vs Vargas
Nicholas Walters vs. Miguel Marriaga
Terrance Crawford vs Dulorme
Mike Alvarado vs. Brandon Rios
Matthysse vs Viktor Postol
Klitschko vs Tyson Fury
And that's not including some good undercard fights too. Also it's worth pointing out HBO has a very limited amount of fighters they can show now with the mass exodus to PBC.
My concern here is PBC matchmaking is really bad, they make fights that just don't make any sense and often some really bad fights that are terrible style clashes. There is no real rhyme or reason to what they are doing. They gotta straighten this stuff out
Carlos Molina Moving Down, Invades Welterweight
Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 8/12/2015
By Miguel Rivera
Former IBF junior middleweight champion Carlos Molina is moving down to the welterweight division. Molina will finally see action on August 15 in Montreal against Hector Munoz, in what is going to be at 150-pounds as the Mexican fighter works his way down in weight. Former super middleweight champion Lucian Bute will headline the Montreal card.
Molina was deported last year to Mexico and the a legal remedy is being worked out to allow him to fight once again in the United States.
Molina (22-6-2, 6 KO) says Erislandy Lara will not give him a rematch and Saul "Canelo" Alvarez has refused to face him, so he plans to hunt after big fights at 147 against the likes of Amir Khan, Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter.
"This fight with Hector Munoz will be at 150 pounds, but I will go to 147 after this fight. I need to be more active, we were given the opportunity going to Canada and we are happy about it," Molina told ESPN Deportes.
"I know at 147 pounds there are good opportunities. This is my plan and we are happy because we know that there will be a lot of activity for me in the coming months."
Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 8/12/2015
By Miguel Rivera
Former IBF junior middleweight champion Carlos Molina is moving down to the welterweight division. Molina will finally see action on August 15 in Montreal against Hector Munoz, in what is going to be at 150-pounds as the Mexican fighter works his way down in weight. Former super middleweight champion Lucian Bute will headline the Montreal card.
Molina was deported last year to Mexico and the a legal remedy is being worked out to allow him to fight once again in the United States.
Molina (22-6-2, 6 KO) says Erislandy Lara will not give him a rematch and Saul "Canelo" Alvarez has refused to face him, so he plans to hunt after big fights at 147 against the likes of Amir Khan, Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter.
"This fight with Hector Munoz will be at 150 pounds, but I will go to 147 after this fight. I need to be more active, we were given the opportunity going to Canada and we are happy about it," Molina told ESPN Deportes.
"I know at 147 pounds there are good opportunities. This is my plan and we are happy because we know that there will be a lot of activity for me in the coming months."
Tarver vs. Cunningham: No USADA Random Testing
Posted by: Victor Salazar on 8/11/2015 .
By Victor Salazar
North Bergen, NJ - When the Premier Boxing Champions Series was introduced, there was a lot of positives to write home about, specifically having a drug testing protocol in place for all of its fights outside of the standard state commission tests.
Per an article written by BoxingScene.com’s Jake Donovan and a press release from PBC to the media, the United States Anti-Doping Agency was tabbed to administer random blood and urine tests for every fighter participating under the PBC banner.
“Today's fans deserve a wider audience and broader exposure. With the support of United States Anti-Doping Agency, each boxer participating in the PBC series will be subject to random, Olympic-style drug testing,” Lamont Jones, Vice President of Operations for Haymon Boxing was quoted in the article.
This afternoon at a media workout for this Friday’s PBC on Spike TV, Steve Cunningham who is in the main event against Antonio Tarver revealed that there was no sort of random testing for this fight.
Back in 2012, Tarver tested positive for the anabolic steroid drostanolone in a pre-fight urine test administered by the California State Athletic Commission, for his fight with Lateef Kayode.
“We requested it,” Cunningham told BoxingScene.com. “It should be mandatory for every fight. I have personal views of steroids in boxing. We’re already men with great athletic ability and power. Anyone using anything illegal to gain more power I’m against. We see guys die in the ring against guys who are average. Now we have guys to make themselves even more powerful. What happens when the first guy that fights kills a guy in the ring and gets caught? Me personally, if I ever fight a guy and he gets caught with steroids, I’m putting a civil suit on them for attempted murder. It’s serious. It’s dangerous already and for someone to soop themselves up is criminal.”
Cunningham says they wanted it but admits it he didn’t follow up actively
“We wanted the test because this man has a history and that’s what he got busted for,” Cunningham said. “We’re going to get tested though, not during camps but before and after the fights, next time most we’ll get it definitely. It was there available for us but it wasn’t top priority at the time. Camp has been real busy so we’ll settle for before and after”
When John Molina tested positive for a diuretic for his fight with Adrien Broner on the inaugural PBC on NBC, broadcast, it was a urine test conducted by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. In fact in an article on TheSweetScience.com, a spokesman for USADA revealed to Michael Woods that they had not done any testing for John Molina.
Cunningham’s manager and wife Liv Cunningham also confirmed that those were the measures taking and that the testing for this fight was not at random
“We get tested before the fight and post-fight so we’re happy with those measures,” his manager said. “We would have liked to do random and we had a similar situation in the past but promoters aren’t lining up and trying to pay for that type of testing. It could cost like $5000. Don’t quote me on the cost so it can be upwards of that. So we had a happy medium in between with fight night being tested and after.”
When asked about what commission or agency would be conducting the test, Cunningham said, “I don’t remember what agency they said. It seems legit and they’re on it.”
An email was sent to USADA and PBC regarding the testing which was not responded to. A text was sent to the Commissioner of the NJ Athletic Control Board as to what testing aside from the standard blood and urine before the fight would be used, which was not responded to either.
Posted by: Victor Salazar on 8/11/2015 .
By Victor Salazar
North Bergen, NJ - When the Premier Boxing Champions Series was introduced, there was a lot of positives to write home about, specifically having a drug testing protocol in place for all of its fights outside of the standard state commission tests.
Per an article written by BoxingScene.com’s Jake Donovan and a press release from PBC to the media, the United States Anti-Doping Agency was tabbed to administer random blood and urine tests for every fighter participating under the PBC banner.
“Today's fans deserve a wider audience and broader exposure. With the support of United States Anti-Doping Agency, each boxer participating in the PBC series will be subject to random, Olympic-style drug testing,” Lamont Jones, Vice President of Operations for Haymon Boxing was quoted in the article.
This afternoon at a media workout for this Friday’s PBC on Spike TV, Steve Cunningham who is in the main event against Antonio Tarver revealed that there was no sort of random testing for this fight.
Back in 2012, Tarver tested positive for the anabolic steroid drostanolone in a pre-fight urine test administered by the California State Athletic Commission, for his fight with Lateef Kayode.
“We requested it,” Cunningham told BoxingScene.com. “It should be mandatory for every fight. I have personal views of steroids in boxing. We’re already men with great athletic ability and power. Anyone using anything illegal to gain more power I’m against. We see guys die in the ring against guys who are average. Now we have guys to make themselves even more powerful. What happens when the first guy that fights kills a guy in the ring and gets caught? Me personally, if I ever fight a guy and he gets caught with steroids, I’m putting a civil suit on them for attempted murder. It’s serious. It’s dangerous already and for someone to soop themselves up is criminal.”
Cunningham says they wanted it but admits it he didn’t follow up actively
“We wanted the test because this man has a history and that’s what he got busted for,” Cunningham said. “We’re going to get tested though, not during camps but before and after the fights, next time most we’ll get it definitely. It was there available for us but it wasn’t top priority at the time. Camp has been real busy so we’ll settle for before and after”
When John Molina tested positive for a diuretic for his fight with Adrien Broner on the inaugural PBC on NBC, broadcast, it was a urine test conducted by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. In fact in an article on TheSweetScience.com, a spokesman for USADA revealed to Michael Woods that they had not done any testing for John Molina.
Cunningham’s manager and wife Liv Cunningham also confirmed that those were the measures taking and that the testing for this fight was not at random
“We get tested before the fight and post-fight so we’re happy with those measures,” his manager said. “We would have liked to do random and we had a similar situation in the past but promoters aren’t lining up and trying to pay for that type of testing. It could cost like $5000. Don’t quote me on the cost so it can be upwards of that. So we had a happy medium in between with fight night being tested and after.”
When asked about what commission or agency would be conducting the test, Cunningham said, “I don’t remember what agency they said. It seems legit and they’re on it.”
An email was sent to USADA and PBC regarding the testing which was not responded to. A text was sent to the Commissioner of the NJ Athletic Control Board as to what testing aside from the standard blood and urine before the fight would be used, which was not responded to either.
Cunningham Calls PED Use ‘Massive’ Problem In Boxing
Posted by: Keith Idec on 8/12/2015 .
By Keith Idec
NORTH BERGEN, N.J. – Steve Cunningham claimed Tuesday that there is a “massive” steroid problem in boxing, particularly within the heavyweight division.
“I’ve fought guys on steroids before and beat ‘em,” Cunningham said before an open workout at Global Boxing Gym. “I know that for a fact. I’m not saying any names, but boxing’s a small community. Everybody talks. If you’re in training camp, everybody’s trading stories. … We know steroid use is rampant in boxing. A lot of people know. Everybody should know. Guys is out here killing their wives for $200,000 in life insurance. You don’t think people are going to cheat for a possible shot at a heavyweight world title?”
Philadelphia’s Cunningham (28-7, 13 KOs), a former cruiserweight champion, is scheduled to face former light heavyweight champ Antonio Tarver (31-6, 22 KOs, 1 NC) in a 12-round heavyweight fight Friday night at Prudential Center in Newark, N.J.
The California State Athletic Commission suspended Tarver for a year because he tested positive for an anabolic steroid, drostanolone, following a June 2012 fight against Lateef Kayode in Carson, Calif. His steroid suspension also cost Tarver his television job as an analyst for Showtime, which televised the Kayode fight.
The 39-year-old Cunningham didn’t suggest Tarver, 46, is on steroids. He also said he didn’t undergo random blood and urine testing throughout training camp for this fight. Tarver was scheduled to be part of the open workout to promote Friday’s Premier Boxing Champions card (Spike; 9 p.m. ET/PT), but didn’t attend and couldn’t be reached for comment regarding Cunningham’s comments or whether he was tested throughout camp.
“It was there, available for us,” Cunningham said in reference to random blood and urine testing for the Tarver fight. “But me and my wife, we just didn’t put it up there. It wasn’t a top priority at the time. We just didn’t press the issue at the time. Then it hit me later in camp. And we’re just like, ‘We’ll just settle for the before and after tests.’ ”
Nick Lembo, general counsel for New Jersey’s State Athletic Control Board, said Tuesday that Tarver and Cunningham, like all boxers and MMA fighters that compete in the state, will be subject this week to pre-fight and post-fight blood, urine and hair testing for performance-enhancing drugs including blood doping, diuretics, external testosterone, human growth hormone, masking agents and steroids. New Jersey’s SACB tests in accordance with World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) guidelines and sends samples only to labs approved by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).
Though Cunningham didn’t demand random blood and urine testing throughout camp for this fight, he said he would seek monetary compensation if an opponent ever tests positive for a PED.
“It should be mandatory for every fight,” Cunningham said, again referring to random blood and urine testing. “I have personal views of steroid use in boxing. We’re already men who are, to an extent, super. We’re already men with great athletic abilities, with power, more power than the average man. So anybody using any type of drug or anything illegal to get more power, and to get in the ring to do that, I mean, we see guys die from the average fighter. Now we have guys that are trying to make themselves even more powerful? What happens when the first guy gets caught using steroids and he kills a guy in the ring? What happens?
“Me, personally, if I ever fight a guy and he gets busted on steroids, I’m putting a civil suit on him for attempted murder. You know? Assault and battery. You know? That’s how serious this is. Boxing isn’t a game. It’s not basketball. It’s not football. It’s close to hockey. … But it’s so dangerous already, and for these guys to go and soup themselves up even more, I think that’s criminal. We wanted the test, just because this man [Tarver], he has a history now. That’s what he got busted on. I don’t know what he’s doing. I hope he isn’t, for his sake. But I know for a fact that I fought guys and beat them [when they were] on steroids before. We’ve got rules for a reason in boxing, you know?”
Keith Idec covers boxing for The Record and Herald News, of Woodland Park, N.J., and BoxingScene.com. He can be reached on Twitter @Idecboxing.
Cunningham Calls PED Use ‘Massive’ Problem In Boxing - Boxing News
Posted by: Keith Idec on 8/12/2015 .
By Keith Idec
NORTH BERGEN, N.J. – Steve Cunningham claimed Tuesday that there is a “massive” steroid problem in boxing, particularly within the heavyweight division.
“I’ve fought guys on steroids before and beat ‘em,” Cunningham said before an open workout at Global Boxing Gym. “I know that for a fact. I’m not saying any names, but boxing’s a small community. Everybody talks. If you’re in training camp, everybody’s trading stories. … We know steroid use is rampant in boxing. A lot of people know. Everybody should know. Guys is out here killing their wives for $200,000 in life insurance. You don’t think people are going to cheat for a possible shot at a heavyweight world title?”
Philadelphia’s Cunningham (28-7, 13 KOs), a former cruiserweight champion, is scheduled to face former light heavyweight champ Antonio Tarver (31-6, 22 KOs, 1 NC) in a 12-round heavyweight fight Friday night at Prudential Center in Newark, N.J.
The California State Athletic Commission suspended Tarver for a year because he tested positive for an anabolic steroid, drostanolone, following a June 2012 fight against Lateef Kayode in Carson, Calif. His steroid suspension also cost Tarver his television job as an analyst for Showtime, which televised the Kayode fight.
The 39-year-old Cunningham didn’t suggest Tarver, 46, is on steroids. He also said he didn’t undergo random blood and urine testing throughout training camp for this fight. Tarver was scheduled to be part of the open workout to promote Friday’s Premier Boxing Champions card (Spike; 9 p.m. ET/PT), but didn’t attend and couldn’t be reached for comment regarding Cunningham’s comments or whether he was tested throughout camp.
“It was there, available for us,” Cunningham said in reference to random blood and urine testing for the Tarver fight. “But me and my wife, we just didn’t put it up there. It wasn’t a top priority at the time. We just didn’t press the issue at the time. Then it hit me later in camp. And we’re just like, ‘We’ll just settle for the before and after tests.’ ”
Nick Lembo, general counsel for New Jersey’s State Athletic Control Board, said Tuesday that Tarver and Cunningham, like all boxers and MMA fighters that compete in the state, will be subject this week to pre-fight and post-fight blood, urine and hair testing for performance-enhancing drugs including blood doping, diuretics, external testosterone, human growth hormone, masking agents and steroids. New Jersey’s SACB tests in accordance with World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) guidelines and sends samples only to labs approved by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).
Though Cunningham didn’t demand random blood and urine testing throughout camp for this fight, he said he would seek monetary compensation if an opponent ever tests positive for a PED.
“It should be mandatory for every fight,” Cunningham said, again referring to random blood and urine testing. “I have personal views of steroid use in boxing. We’re already men who are, to an extent, super. We’re already men with great athletic abilities, with power, more power than the average man. So anybody using any type of drug or anything illegal to get more power, and to get in the ring to do that, I mean, we see guys die from the average fighter. Now we have guys that are trying to make themselves even more powerful? What happens when the first guy gets caught using steroids and he kills a guy in the ring? What happens?
“Me, personally, if I ever fight a guy and he gets busted on steroids, I’m putting a civil suit on him for attempted murder. You know? Assault and battery. You know? That’s how serious this is. Boxing isn’t a game. It’s not basketball. It’s not football. It’s close to hockey. … But it’s so dangerous already, and for these guys to go and soup themselves up even more, I think that’s criminal. We wanted the test, just because this man [Tarver], he has a history now. That’s what he got busted on. I don’t know what he’s doing. I hope he isn’t, for his sake. But I know for a fact that I fought guys and beat them [when they were] on steroids before. We’ve got rules for a reason in boxing, you know?”
Keith Idec covers boxing for The Record and Herald News, of Woodland Park, N.J., and BoxingScene.com. He can be reached on Twitter @Idecboxing.
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PBC being in it's infancy as a brand shouldn't even be brought up. We have a pattern of matchmaking throughout the years by fighters signed to Haymon, and it's normally poor matchmaking with some cool fights sprinkled in. You'll never see me complain about 2 top 10 fighters fighting each other no matter how much I think the skill disparity is, but the fights should at least make sense and have a purpose.
Quillin is coming off a draw to Andy Lee, in a fight where a lot of people think he won. Unless they don't think he can make 160 there's no reason for this fight. He should at the least be in with a borderline contender in the division or an eliminator of some sort. There's no building that's needed if they want to make Quillin/Jacobs for a ridiculous secondary title.
I liked the BounceTV card and they put on a legit title fight and buried it on a channel not available in a lot of markets and even less in HD, with Payano an actual champion no secondary title bullshit.
It's not nit picking to say that if you have the deepest roster in boxing you should be making cool fights. Putting Arreola Vs. Harper is laughable, that fight turned out good but that wasn't a good fight to be made.
And I'll disagree with 2-0 on the list a bit too. Just because some of the fights didn't turn out to be all that great doesn't mean they were bad fights to make either. Vargas Vs. Omotoso, Fortuna vs Vasquez, Kameda vs McDonnell, Dirrell vs Degale (this was a mandatory not an actual made fight by them), Lee vs Quillen, Garcia vs Peterson, Khan vs Algieri (falls into my top guys fighting each other category) were good fights to be made regardless of how they turned out.
Quillin is coming off a draw to Andy Lee, in a fight where a lot of people think he won. Unless they don't think he can make 160 there's no reason for this fight. He should at the least be in with a borderline contender in the division or an eliminator of some sort. There's no building that's needed if they want to make Quillin/Jacobs for a ridiculous secondary title.
I liked the BounceTV card and they put on a legit title fight and buried it on a channel not available in a lot of markets and even less in HD, with Payano an actual champion no secondary title bullshit.
It's not nit picking to say that if you have the deepest roster in boxing you should be making cool fights. Putting Arreola Vs. Harper is laughable, that fight turned out good but that wasn't a good fight to be made.
And I'll disagree with 2-0 on the list a bit too. Just because some of the fights didn't turn out to be all that great doesn't mean they were bad fights to make either. Vargas Vs. Omotoso, Fortuna vs Vasquez, Kameda vs McDonnell, Dirrell vs Degale (this was a mandatory not an actual made fight by them), Lee vs Quillen, Garcia vs Peterson, Khan vs Algieri (falls into my top guys fighting each other category) were good fights to be made regardless of how they turned out.
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Manny’s miraculous recovery
Posted on Wednesday Aug 12th at 12:00am
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson
Manny Pacquiao, the only fighter in history to win eight world titles in different divisions, raised his right arm upward and showed no discomfort in appearing to have fully recovered from a torn rotator cuff suffered during his fight against Floyd Mayweather in Las Vegas last May.
“No problem,” said Pacquiao displaying full vertical extension on his arm during a break at the 2019 FIBA World Cup bidding event in Tokyo last Friday. “I’m fine. It’s God’s work. I never saw a doctor. I never did rehab. All I did was to swim in the sea as often as I could. The salt water healed my wound.”
Pacquiao’s business manager Eric Pineda, who was also in Tokyo, called it a miraculous recovery. “Manny has strong faith,” he said. “God did it. And all that swimming in the sea helped. Now, there’s talk of his comeback fight.”
Pineda wouldn’t divulge what’s in the oven but a news report came out yesterday quoting Top Rank promoter Bob Arum conjuring visions of a Pacquiao bout against UK Olympic silver medalist Amir Khan in Dubai or Las Vegas. Arum is supposedly meeting with Khan’s team in London this weekend to discuss the possibility of a match in March next year.
Arum said Khan should’ve been given a crack at fighting Mayweather on Sept. 12 and said it’s a “farce” that The Best Ever is facing shop-worn, easy-to-hit Andre Berto. Khan has been bypassed as an opponent at least twice by Mayweather who seems to think the Englishman of Pakistan descent is a risky proposition. Arum said if Mayweather isn’t inclined to give Khan a chance, Pacquiao is.
Khan, 28, has a 31-3 record, with 19 KOs, compared to Pacquiao’s 57-6-2, with 38 KOs. Pacquiao will be 37 if and when they meet next year. Khan has won his last five outings while Pacquiao is 3-3 in his last six. Khan’s last five victims were Carlos Molina, Julio Diaz, Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander and Chris Algieri. Only Molina didn’t go the distance with Khan. As for Pacquiao, his last three victims were Brandon Rios, Timothy Bradley and Algieri. His last three tormentors were Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Mayweather.
Arum welcomed a Pacquiao-Khan battle and said it will be a test for both fighters. He picked Pacquiao to win because Khan wouldn’t be able to withstand the power of his punches. Khan has been stopped twice, by Breidis Prescott in the first round and Danny Garcia in the fourth. He lost a split decision to Lamont Peterson. Khan was decked by Willie Limond and Diaz before winning in two close calls. Since Khan has taken a lot of trips to the canvas, the consensus is he won’t last long with Pacquiao.
Arum said another fight he’s arranging is WBA superbantamweight champion Scott Quigg against Nonito Donaire, Jr. That could be staged in Dubai or somewhere in England before the year ends. Donaire has no preference as to where to face Quigg. His goal is to become a world champion again and Quigg is his ticket to achieving that aim.
A possibility is for Pacquiao to fight Khan in Manila but that would depend on sponsors putting up the money to make it happen. Arum will evaluate the money involved in staging Pacquiao’s comeback fight in Manila, Dubai and Las Vegas before making a recommendation.
Pacquiao readily agreed to join the Philippine delegation in Tokyo. The two other Congressman who made the trip were Rep. Robbie Puno of Antipolo and Rep. Rey Umali of Oriental Mindoro. The other elected government officials in the delegation were Sen. Sonny Angara and Mayor Monico Puentevella of Bacolod.
“It’s not easy to convince Manny to take a trip,” said Pineda. “There has to be a cause involved, something he’s supporting. He wanted to show his support for the Philippine bid to host the World Cup.” Pacquiao went to Tokyo with wife Jinkee and a party of 10.
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At the sidelines of the bidding event, Pacquiao and retired NBA player Yao Ming were mobbed by media. They obliged the press by answering questions of any variety. In a press conference, Pacquiao said the Philippine bid was anchored on the Filipinos’ passion for the game.
“More than 100 million Filipinos will be supporting the World Cup if ever we host it,” he said. “The impact will be major. As a boxer, I love basketball. Our objective is to be able to show the world not only our passion for the game but also our ability to host a major sporting event.” The Philippines, however, lost to China in the bidding by a vote of 14-7 from the FIBA Central Board.
While Pacquiao was focused on backing the Philippine bid, it didn’t stop media from bombarding him with questions about boxing. Someone asked if he thought Berto has a chance of beating Mayweather. Pacquiao nodded, saying, “yes, he has a chance.” He didn’t elaborate. Another asked if he’d like to face Mayweather in a rematch. Once again, Pacquiao nodded, saying, “yes,” nothing else. Clearly, he didn’t want to take attention away from the Philippine bid. It was why Pacquiao was in Tokyo after all.
Regarding Pacquiao’s arm, Arum was quoted as remarking that the recovery is unbelievable. Apparently, Pacquiao has sent images of extending his arm to Arum who in turn showed them to doctors. Arum said the doctors were amazed at the recovery. Pacquiao just never ceases to amaze.
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Posted on Wednesday Aug 12th at 12:00am
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson
Manny Pacquiao, the only fighter in history to win eight world titles in different divisions, raised his right arm upward and showed no discomfort in appearing to have fully recovered from a torn rotator cuff suffered during his fight against Floyd Mayweather in Las Vegas last May.
“No problem,” said Pacquiao displaying full vertical extension on his arm during a break at the 2019 FIBA World Cup bidding event in Tokyo last Friday. “I’m fine. It’s God’s work. I never saw a doctor. I never did rehab. All I did was to swim in the sea as often as I could. The salt water healed my wound.”
Pacquiao’s business manager Eric Pineda, who was also in Tokyo, called it a miraculous recovery. “Manny has strong faith,” he said. “God did it. And all that swimming in the sea helped. Now, there’s talk of his comeback fight.”
Pineda wouldn’t divulge what’s in the oven but a news report came out yesterday quoting Top Rank promoter Bob Arum conjuring visions of a Pacquiao bout against UK Olympic silver medalist Amir Khan in Dubai or Las Vegas. Arum is supposedly meeting with Khan’s team in London this weekend to discuss the possibility of a match in March next year.
Arum said Khan should’ve been given a crack at fighting Mayweather on Sept. 12 and said it’s a “farce” that The Best Ever is facing shop-worn, easy-to-hit Andre Berto. Khan has been bypassed as an opponent at least twice by Mayweather who seems to think the Englishman of Pakistan descent is a risky proposition. Arum said if Mayweather isn’t inclined to give Khan a chance, Pacquiao is.
Khan, 28, has a 31-3 record, with 19 KOs, compared to Pacquiao’s 57-6-2, with 38 KOs. Pacquiao will be 37 if and when they meet next year. Khan has won his last five outings while Pacquiao is 3-3 in his last six. Khan’s last five victims were Carlos Molina, Julio Diaz, Luis Collazo, Devon Alexander and Chris Algieri. Only Molina didn’t go the distance with Khan. As for Pacquiao, his last three victims were Brandon Rios, Timothy Bradley and Algieri. His last three tormentors were Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Mayweather.
Arum welcomed a Pacquiao-Khan battle and said it will be a test for both fighters. He picked Pacquiao to win because Khan wouldn’t be able to withstand the power of his punches. Khan has been stopped twice, by Breidis Prescott in the first round and Danny Garcia in the fourth. He lost a split decision to Lamont Peterson. Khan was decked by Willie Limond and Diaz before winning in two close calls. Since Khan has taken a lot of trips to the canvas, the consensus is he won’t last long with Pacquiao.
Arum said another fight he’s arranging is WBA superbantamweight champion Scott Quigg against Nonito Donaire, Jr. That could be staged in Dubai or somewhere in England before the year ends. Donaire has no preference as to where to face Quigg. His goal is to become a world champion again and Quigg is his ticket to achieving that aim.
A possibility is for Pacquiao to fight Khan in Manila but that would depend on sponsors putting up the money to make it happen. Arum will evaluate the money involved in staging Pacquiao’s comeback fight in Manila, Dubai and Las Vegas before making a recommendation.
Pacquiao readily agreed to join the Philippine delegation in Tokyo. The two other Congressman who made the trip were Rep. Robbie Puno of Antipolo and Rep. Rey Umali of Oriental Mindoro. The other elected government officials in the delegation were Sen. Sonny Angara and Mayor Monico Puentevella of Bacolod.
“It’s not easy to convince Manny to take a trip,” said Pineda. “There has to be a cause involved, something he’s supporting. He wanted to show his support for the Philippine bid to host the World Cup.” Pacquiao went to Tokyo with wife Jinkee and a party of 10.
* * * *
At the sidelines of the bidding event, Pacquiao and retired NBA player Yao Ming were mobbed by media. They obliged the press by answering questions of any variety. In a press conference, Pacquiao said the Philippine bid was anchored on the Filipinos’ passion for the game.
“More than 100 million Filipinos will be supporting the World Cup if ever we host it,” he said. “The impact will be major. As a boxer, I love basketball. Our objective is to be able to show the world not only our passion for the game but also our ability to host a major sporting event.” The Philippines, however, lost to China in the bidding by a vote of 14-7 from the FIBA Central Board.
While Pacquiao was focused on backing the Philippine bid, it didn’t stop media from bombarding him with questions about boxing. Someone asked if he thought Berto has a chance of beating Mayweather. Pacquiao nodded, saying, “yes, he has a chance.” He didn’t elaborate. Another asked if he’d like to face Mayweather in a rematch. Once again, Pacquiao nodded, saying, “yes,” nothing else. Clearly, he didn’t want to take attention away from the Philippine bid. It was why Pacquiao was in Tokyo after all.
Regarding Pacquiao’s arm, Arum was quoted as remarking that the recovery is unbelievable. Apparently, Pacquiao has sent images of extending his arm to Arum who in turn showed them to doctors. Arum said the doctors were amazed at the recovery. Pacquiao just never ceases to amaze.
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