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Roc Nation made some deals with BET and Fox Sports 1. Word is Andre Ward's June 20th return will be on BET vs TBA.
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I agree Haymon is probably planning on having him on a PBC card, Showtime is like "we passed" to save face, but I disagree about his popularity dropped. He's still a fairly big name in boxing but he's getting SHITTED on something awful right now for this fight. But Danny Garcia got shitted on big time for his Rod Salka fight and it didn't seem to matter.
PBC is buying airtime themselves on all these networks so nothing is exclusive. Everything is coming out of their pockets (their investors pockets to be clear). That's why what Haymon is doing is really interesting - where is the profit coming from? Like the card today all the commercials were PBC commercials besides one or two. They must be willing to lose a ton of money in hopes of future profits down the road.
Foreign markets, replays in other markets, advertisers and ancillary goods. Profit will come, but what's going to happen is the networks will switch and start co-branding if the numbers are consistent or rising. And if the numbers continue to be stable or rise, then the networks will end up paying to keep the product there.
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I think it works differently when he's the one buying time. Its not the networks saying Hey let us have ur product, it's basically like infomercials in a way. If there becomes interests from the networks to actually pay him for it like HERESY said, then I'm sure he'd want exclusive deals, I don't think he's in the position to demand anything yet.
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Haymon proboly just trying to profit for his own pockets..over pays his fighters with the investers money takes his ten percent cutt from each fighter as manager/adviser he probly just going to fuck them over how did to oscar gbp,hbo,showtime,beyonce and now the investers going to get burnt....this guy is all bad for boxing
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Margs is on a fucking roll with these pictures lately lmao
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Random KO of the day..
100 years ago to the day Jes. Willard KO's Jack Johnson
One hundred years ago this month, the World Heavyweight Championship changed hands. On the afternoon of April 5, 1915, for over an hour and a half, champion and challenger battled through 25 three-minute rounds in 100+ degree heat in a ring standing at the finish line at the Oriental Race Track in Havana, Cuba. The pace of the fight was more like a baseball game than a boxing match, but it lacked neither drama nor excitement. By the end of the contest, the 37-year-old champion Jack Johnson had thrown every punch, tried every physical and verbal tactic in his arsenal on his unyielding challenger. Jess Willard, the 33-year-old 6’6” giant, a man with limited skills, but immense size and strength, would not only withstand an hour of relentless attacks, but stick to his fight plan of probing and leading with long left jabs followed by overhand rights and uppercuts. After 20 rounds, Johnson was leading on points. His lead was due to work rate rather than domination. Willard was never seriously hurt and many of Johnson’s punches were blocked by the challenger’s arms and gloves. As the champion slowed down, Willard drove the once untouchable, unbeatable Jack Johnson into exhaustion and retreat. Shortly into the twenty-sixth round, Willard scored with two rights. The first one grazed the champion’s chin, and the second slammed squarely against Johnson’s jaw, dropping him to the canvas where he lay on his back as the referee counted him out. The crowd stormed the ring and Willard was besieged by fans. Johnson was lifted to his feet and led across the ring by his handlers." (continued)
Read the complete story by The Fight Film Collector on boxing.com
100 years ago to the day Jes. Willard KO's Jack Johnson
One hundred years ago this month, the World Heavyweight Championship changed hands. On the afternoon of April 5, 1915, for over an hour and a half, champion and challenger battled through 25 three-minute rounds in 100+ degree heat in a ring standing at the finish line at the Oriental Race Track in Havana, Cuba. The pace of the fight was more like a baseball game than a boxing match, but it lacked neither drama nor excitement. By the end of the contest, the 37-year-old champion Jack Johnson had thrown every punch, tried every physical and verbal tactic in his arsenal on his unyielding challenger. Jess Willard, the 33-year-old 6’6” giant, a man with limited skills, but immense size and strength, would not only withstand an hour of relentless attacks, but stick to his fight plan of probing and leading with long left jabs followed by overhand rights and uppercuts. After 20 rounds, Johnson was leading on points. His lead was due to work rate rather than domination. Willard was never seriously hurt and many of Johnson’s punches were blocked by the challenger’s arms and gloves. As the champion slowed down, Willard drove the once untouchable, unbeatable Jack Johnson into exhaustion and retreat. Shortly into the twenty-sixth round, Willard scored with two rights. The first one grazed the champion’s chin, and the second slammed squarely against Johnson’s jaw, dropping him to the canvas where he lay on his back as the referee counted him out. The crowd stormed the ring and Willard was besieged by fans. Johnson was lifted to his feet and led across the ring by his handlers." (continued)
Read the complete story by The Fight Film Collector on boxing.com
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We should start a "this day in boxing history" style thread. What better day to start it than today..
On 04/06/1987 - Marvin Hagler Vs. Sugar Ray Leonard
One of the most argued decisions ever. People still go back and forth on who won the fight and it turned out to be the final fight in Hagler's great career.
On 04/06/1987 - Marvin Hagler Vs. Sugar Ray Leonard
One of the most argued decisions ever. People still go back and forth on who won the fight and it turned out to be the final fight in Hagler's great career.
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According to this article:
Les ceintures de PBC sont en production | JDM
Google Translate:
PBC belts are in production
QUEBEC | Over the last few months, the businessman Al Haymon has started a revolution in boxing through agreements with several American television networks. However, it does not stop there.
The next stage of its five-year plan is the implementation of a belt in all categories and these would be played only on First Boxing Champions cards (PBC).
A model that would have some similarities to that which exists in the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), which has full control over its fighters and clashes.
In recent days, members of the entourage of Haymon, which are present in Quebec were very discreet about it. However, according to what Le Journal de Montreal has learned, the project is well under way.
The PBC belts are in production in a company in England. They would be ready in a few weeks, according to several participants, but it is not yet known when they will make their official appearance in the world of boxing.
Turn into the unknown
Until this new crown is launched, the WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF continue to work with First Boxing Champions (PBC), but for how long?
"We're on the fence on this issue. We must wait to see how things will go, said an advocate who works for one o
"However, it will do something before that first fight for a title PBC announced. That could cause problems. "
Many questions remain unanswered at the moment. For example, what value has this capacity compared to those that currently exist? It is not clear at this point, but we know that Haymon uses all the means at its disposal to have total control of boxing.
The creation of a new belt is a step closer to his ultimate goal.
Already a clue?
Watching the televised galas and PBC website, we can see that the sanctioning bodies do not seem to be part of the final equation of Haymon.
And there are many examples. Saturday before the Stevenson-Bika shock, the representative of the WBC will not be allowed between the cables. He will receive the belt of "Superman" then it will be posted on the ring apron.
After the announcement of the winner is the referee Michael Griffin which will place around the waist of Stevenson or Bika and not him. The only thing we know is that the advertiser must submit Stevenson Pierre Bernier as WBC world champion.
Then when we consult the PBC website with great pomp we learn that Quebecers face Bika in a championship fight on CBS today. However, rummaging about this duel, he never mentioned that Stevenson is the WBC king, The Ring or linear heavyweight. It is just a champion. Point to the line.
Sooner or later the WBC and other sanctioning bodies will react and that could make sparks. Even if the money were to go, do they want to play second fiddle behind PBC? It must be doubtful.
Les ceintures de PBC sont en production | JDM
Google Translate:
PBC belts are in production
QUEBEC | Over the last few months, the businessman Al Haymon has started a revolution in boxing through agreements with several American television networks. However, it does not stop there.
The next stage of its five-year plan is the implementation of a belt in all categories and these would be played only on First Boxing Champions cards (PBC).
A model that would have some similarities to that which exists in the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), which has full control over its fighters and clashes.
In recent days, members of the entourage of Haymon, which are present in Quebec were very discreet about it. However, according to what Le Journal de Montreal has learned, the project is well under way.
The PBC belts are in production in a company in England. They would be ready in a few weeks, according to several participants, but it is not yet known when they will make their official appearance in the world of boxing.
Turn into the unknown
Until this new crown is launched, the WBC, WBA, WBO and IBF continue to work with First Boxing Champions (PBC), but for how long?
"We're on the fence on this issue. We must wait to see how things will go, said an advocate who works for one o
"However, it will do something before that first fight for a title PBC announced. That could cause problems. "
Many questions remain unanswered at the moment. For example, what value has this capacity compared to those that currently exist? It is not clear at this point, but we know that Haymon uses all the means at its disposal to have total control of boxing.
The creation of a new belt is a step closer to his ultimate goal.
Already a clue?
Watching the televised galas and PBC website, we can see that the sanctioning bodies do not seem to be part of the final equation of Haymon.
And there are many examples. Saturday before the Stevenson-Bika shock, the representative of the WBC will not be allowed between the cables. He will receive the belt of "Superman" then it will be posted on the ring apron.
After the announcement of the winner is the referee Michael Griffin which will place around the waist of Stevenson or Bika and not him. The only thing we know is that the advertiser must submit Stevenson Pierre Bernier as WBC world champion.
Then when we consult the PBC website with great pomp we learn that Quebecers face Bika in a championship fight on CBS today. However, rummaging about this duel, he never mentioned that Stevenson is the WBC king, The Ring or linear heavyweight. It is just a champion. Point to the line.
Sooner or later the WBC and other sanctioning bodies will react and that could make sparks. Even if the money were to go, do they want to play second fiddle behind PBC? It must be doubtful.
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