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It would be the exact same thing. It's stupid. Floyd is going to make his money regardless so why should he give a damn who on the other side makes money. It's dumb. Never seen a fighter ask for so much. First Olympic style drug testing. After some bickering, thats not a problem anymore. Now it's leave top rank and sign to TMT. Lol what kind of egotistical maniac does shit like that? Funny thing is, Floyd is becoming Bob Arum. The level of greed is the same.
Why do you have to defend everything Mayweather? He's obviously PART of the problem if he's demanding Pacquiao leaves TR and signs with TMT. That is straight retarded. Never seen that in boxing.
Arum hates Oscar, sure, they still made Oscar vs Pacquiao, Pacquiao vs Hatton. Once Floyd / Al Haymon got in the mix shit hit the fan.
Arum hates Oscar, sure, they still made Oscar vs Pacquiao, Pacquiao vs Hatton. Once Floyd / Al Haymon got in the mix shit hit the fan.
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The same reason u defend anything about Manny. Mayweather is a fighter first. He obviously didnt like Arum and left him. He knows Arum is a snake. What does Mayweather have to do with Dela Hoya & Arum doin business? lol. U reaching dog. Look at Manny now who is in debt because of Arum. I wouldnt want to work with Arum either. I dont think Manny has to sign with TMT, I think as long as he wasnt under Arum they could make the fight. Regardless he is under arum and Floyd isnt gonna work with Arum. They tried before and Manny didnt agree to testing and then Manny sued Floyd and that was it. Floyd then tried again with Manny but Manny yet turned it down again. Im not defending nuthin but the truth. Yall trying to blame Floyd when its easily Arum thats fucking up the sport. Got Em!!
Well is Floyd is doin the most, what is Arum doin to allow Manny to owe 18 mill lol. Got Em!!
Well is Floyd is doin the most, what is Arum doin to allow Manny to owe 18 mill lol. Got Em!!
FLOYD MAYWEATHER DISPUTES THAT AMIR KHAN HAS SIGNED A FIGHT CONTRACT; 7 QUESTIONS HE WANTS ANSWERS TO
By Ben Thompson | January 03, 2014
Recently, FightHype.com caught up with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather to set the record straight regarding any and all rumors about his future plans. After clearing up the bogus story about a potential 2014 showdown with Manny Pacquiao, Mayweather reversed roles and played the part of reporter, asking me a series of questions regarding the news that former jr. welterweight champion Amir Khan allegedly signed a contract to fight him in May. As Mayweather has repeatedly stated, he has yet to make any decision on his next opponent, so when I brought up the comments that Khan recently made, he told me that if it were indeed true, the answers to the following 5 questions should be known:
1. Where did the contract come from?
Though I'm not an expert on all fight negotiations, I do know that Floyd Mayweather dictates the final terms of any contract that a potential opponent might receive. That being said, when it comes to his fights, all bout agreements are drawn up on his company's letterhead. If Amir Khan hasn't signed a contract from Mayweather Promotions, then he hasn't signed anything that ensures him a fight with the biggest name in the sport.
2. How much money is he getting paid?
Boxing is not called prize fighting for nothing. Naturally, the most important term of a contract that a fighter should be concerned about his guaranteed purse. One would think that if a contract was indeed signed, at the very least, Amir Khan should already know how much he's getting paid; unless, of course, he foolishly signed a blank contract, allowing any low number to be filled in at a later date.
3. What weight is the fight at?
Keep in mind, Floyd Mayweather is the reigning welterweight (147 lbs.) and jr. middleweight (154 lbs.) champion. Though one would assume the proposed fight would likely take place in the 147-pound division, that may not necessarily be true. Either way, the answer to that question should be known if a valid contract has indeed been signed by Khan.
4. Is it a championship fight?
As previously stated, Mayweather currently holds the WBC welterweight title, as well as the WBC and WBA jr. middleweight titles. Having just fought for all three straps in 2013, he isn't required to defend them all when he makes his anticipated return to the ring on May 3. Considering that Khan is not the mandatory challenger for any of the titles, Mayweather is free to decide if he wants to put any of them on the line. Again, either way, the answer to that question would likely be known.
5. What venue is the fight being held at?
Though Mayweather has fought in his hometown of Las Vegas, Nevada for the past 7 years, reports have surfaced revealing that the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York has presented a strong offer to host his next fight. While it's not uncommon for a fight to be signed before the venue is finalized, at the very least, Khan should have some idea of what the status is regarding the location. Is the Barclays Center still in play or will Mayweather once again be fighting in his "home" at the MGM Grand Garden Arena?
Obviously, I didn't know the answers to any of those questions, and if Floyd Mayweather is saying that he has yet to make a decision on his next opponent, then it's highly unlikely that Khan will know the answers either. That's not to say that Khan didn't sign any contract whatsoever. A more likely scenario is that he probably signed a new contract with his promoter, Golden Boy Promotions, which states that they will attempt to secure a bout with the biggest name in the sport. That being said, a promotional contract is a far cry from a bout agreement, so if you think that Amir Khan's comments are a sign that he's got next, think again. Mayweather's line of questioning didn't end with Amir Khan. There were two more burning questions that he asked which I had absolutely no answer for.
6. If Miguel Cotto had the WBA jr. middleweight title and Floyd Mayweather beat Miguel Cotto for that title, how did Austin Trout get the WBA jr. middleweight title and end up losing it to Canelo Alvarez?
Miguel Cotto captured the WBA jr. middleweight title back in 2010 when he defeated former champion Yuri Foreman. It was his first fight as a jr. middleweight division, having lost his final bout as a welterweight to Manny Pacquiao. Apparently, that performance alone was enough to convince the WBA to name him their "Super" champion, which essentially allowed them to free up their non-Super title in hopes of collecting more sanctioning fees. Cotto would go on to defend his WBA "Super" jr. middleweight title two more times before ultimately losing it to Floyd Mayweather. Meanwhile, Austin Trout became the WBA jr. middleweight champion not longer after Miguel Cotto was elevated to "Super" champion. After capturing the title from Rigoberto Alvarez in February of 2011, he successfully defended it four times before losing it to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez in April of 2013. So when Mayweather squared off against Canelo last September, it created a scenario where both titles, the WBA jr. middleweight title and the WBA "Super" jr. middleweight title were on the line. Obviously, Mayweather won that fight, so one would think that he now holds the distinction of being the one and only true WBA jr. middleweight champion. Well, think again, because recently, Erislandy Lara and Austin Trout squared off for the "interim" WBA jr. middleweight title. Lara won that fight, and from what we're told, Mayweather's non-Super WBA jr. middleweight title will be declared vacant. If it all sounds confusing, that's because it is, and that's why it's difficult to come up with an accurate answer for the question.
7. How is Manny Pacquiao in a #1 mandatory position to fight for a welterweight title when he just went the distance with Brandon Rios, who was coming off of a loss and had never fought at 147 before?
Pacquiao, who was coming off of back-to-back losses to Timothy Bradley (via split decision) and Juan Manuel Marquez (via knockout), wasn't even ranked in the top 10 by the WBC prior to his fight with Brandon Rios, who was coming off of his own loss to Mike Alvarado (via unanimous decision) and fighting for the first time as a welterweight. Evidently, Pacquiao near shutout victory over the former lightweight champion was enough to earn him a lofty elevation to the #1 mandatory contender status in the eyes of the WBC. While it's not uncommon for sanctioning bodies to drastically shift rankings based on performance, it's still hard to believe that a fighter not ranked in the top 10 was automatically inserted as the #1 contender after winning his first fight in 2 years following back-to-back losses. If it was any other fighter not named Manny Pacquiao, the move might have raised a lot more eyebrows. Nevertheless, it was definitely a question that I didn't have an answer for.
By Ben Thompson | January 03, 2014
Recently, FightHype.com caught up with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather to set the record straight regarding any and all rumors about his future plans. After clearing up the bogus story about a potential 2014 showdown with Manny Pacquiao, Mayweather reversed roles and played the part of reporter, asking me a series of questions regarding the news that former jr. welterweight champion Amir Khan allegedly signed a contract to fight him in May. As Mayweather has repeatedly stated, he has yet to make any decision on his next opponent, so when I brought up the comments that Khan recently made, he told me that if it were indeed true, the answers to the following 5 questions should be known:
1. Where did the contract come from?
Though I'm not an expert on all fight negotiations, I do know that Floyd Mayweather dictates the final terms of any contract that a potential opponent might receive. That being said, when it comes to his fights, all bout agreements are drawn up on his company's letterhead. If Amir Khan hasn't signed a contract from Mayweather Promotions, then he hasn't signed anything that ensures him a fight with the biggest name in the sport.
2. How much money is he getting paid?
Boxing is not called prize fighting for nothing. Naturally, the most important term of a contract that a fighter should be concerned about his guaranteed purse. One would think that if a contract was indeed signed, at the very least, Amir Khan should already know how much he's getting paid; unless, of course, he foolishly signed a blank contract, allowing any low number to be filled in at a later date.
3. What weight is the fight at?
Keep in mind, Floyd Mayweather is the reigning welterweight (147 lbs.) and jr. middleweight (154 lbs.) champion. Though one would assume the proposed fight would likely take place in the 147-pound division, that may not necessarily be true. Either way, the answer to that question should be known if a valid contract has indeed been signed by Khan.
4. Is it a championship fight?
As previously stated, Mayweather currently holds the WBC welterweight title, as well as the WBC and WBA jr. middleweight titles. Having just fought for all three straps in 2013, he isn't required to defend them all when he makes his anticipated return to the ring on May 3. Considering that Khan is not the mandatory challenger for any of the titles, Mayweather is free to decide if he wants to put any of them on the line. Again, either way, the answer to that question would likely be known.
5. What venue is the fight being held at?
Though Mayweather has fought in his hometown of Las Vegas, Nevada for the past 7 years, reports have surfaced revealing that the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York has presented a strong offer to host his next fight. While it's not uncommon for a fight to be signed before the venue is finalized, at the very least, Khan should have some idea of what the status is regarding the location. Is the Barclays Center still in play or will Mayweather once again be fighting in his "home" at the MGM Grand Garden Arena?
Obviously, I didn't know the answers to any of those questions, and if Floyd Mayweather is saying that he has yet to make a decision on his next opponent, then it's highly unlikely that Khan will know the answers either. That's not to say that Khan didn't sign any contract whatsoever. A more likely scenario is that he probably signed a new contract with his promoter, Golden Boy Promotions, which states that they will attempt to secure a bout with the biggest name in the sport. That being said, a promotional contract is a far cry from a bout agreement, so if you think that Amir Khan's comments are a sign that he's got next, think again. Mayweather's line of questioning didn't end with Amir Khan. There were two more burning questions that he asked which I had absolutely no answer for.
6. If Miguel Cotto had the WBA jr. middleweight title and Floyd Mayweather beat Miguel Cotto for that title, how did Austin Trout get the WBA jr. middleweight title and end up losing it to Canelo Alvarez?
Miguel Cotto captured the WBA jr. middleweight title back in 2010 when he defeated former champion Yuri Foreman. It was his first fight as a jr. middleweight division, having lost his final bout as a welterweight to Manny Pacquiao. Apparently, that performance alone was enough to convince the WBA to name him their "Super" champion, which essentially allowed them to free up their non-Super title in hopes of collecting more sanctioning fees. Cotto would go on to defend his WBA "Super" jr. middleweight title two more times before ultimately losing it to Floyd Mayweather. Meanwhile, Austin Trout became the WBA jr. middleweight champion not longer after Miguel Cotto was elevated to "Super" champion. After capturing the title from Rigoberto Alvarez in February of 2011, he successfully defended it four times before losing it to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez in April of 2013. So when Mayweather squared off against Canelo last September, it created a scenario where both titles, the WBA jr. middleweight title and the WBA "Super" jr. middleweight title were on the line. Obviously, Mayweather won that fight, so one would think that he now holds the distinction of being the one and only true WBA jr. middleweight champion. Well, think again, because recently, Erislandy Lara and Austin Trout squared off for the "interim" WBA jr. middleweight title. Lara won that fight, and from what we're told, Mayweather's non-Super WBA jr. middleweight title will be declared vacant. If it all sounds confusing, that's because it is, and that's why it's difficult to come up with an accurate answer for the question.
7. How is Manny Pacquiao in a #1 mandatory position to fight for a welterweight title when he just went the distance with Brandon Rios, who was coming off of a loss and had never fought at 147 before?
Pacquiao, who was coming off of back-to-back losses to Timothy Bradley (via split decision) and Juan Manuel Marquez (via knockout), wasn't even ranked in the top 10 by the WBC prior to his fight with Brandon Rios, who was coming off of his own loss to Mike Alvarado (via unanimous decision) and fighting for the first time as a welterweight. Evidently, Pacquiao near shutout victory over the former lightweight champion was enough to earn him a lofty elevation to the #1 mandatory contender status in the eyes of the WBC. While it's not uncommon for sanctioning bodies to drastically shift rankings based on performance, it's still hard to believe that a fighter not ranked in the top 10 was automatically inserted as the #1 contender after winning his first fight in 2 years following back-to-back losses. If it was any other fighter not named Manny Pacquiao, the move might have raised a lot more eyebrows. Nevertheless, it was definitely a question that I didn't have an answer for.
ANDRE WARD: "FROCH HAS TWO OPTIONS...MY MOTIVATION IS NOT TO BEAT HIM, BUT TO STOP HIM"
By Ben Thompson | January 03, 2014
"Froch has two options. Froch either has to go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come see me or he's gonna lose credibility. See, when you build that tough guy, that spartan, unbeatable, granite chin type of image, you gotta uphold that image, and right now, he's in a pickle. He's in a catch-22, and this is not me saying it; these are his fans saying it, the UK fans. He's either gotta go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come avenge the loss to me, like he keeps saying he wants to, or he just needs to quit bringing my name up in these interviews...we don't like each other, he keeps talking, and now my motivation is not to beat him, but to stop him," stated undefeated super middleweight king Andre Ward, who had a lot to say about Carl Froch, George Groves, and the possibility of fighting both men. You don't want to miss what else he had to say in this exclusive in-depth interview. Check it out!
BT: Considering that you're not signed with Golden Boy Promotions or Top Rank, you're in a unique position in that you don't have to worry about the cold war that's going on between the two promotional companies. That being said, you do fight on HBO whereas some guys fight on Showtime. Does that make it difficult for you to go after certain fights or is it not really an issue?
AW: I mean, the way it stands right now, I don't really see anybody on the other side that's a big fight for me, so I think for me, fortunately, what's going on with the networks hasn't affected me and I'm happy about that. A lot of the guys that I'm fighting, they're fighting on HBO or they're willing to fight on HBO, so for me, in my weight class, I don't think it's affected me.
BT: Let's talk about your weight class for a minute. When you look at the lay of the land in the super middleweight division, obviously you're at the top of the mountain, so everybody should be looking to knock you off that spot. Knowing that, when you see some of the other champions and top contenders out there, is there anyone that you think should be calling you out?
AW: I don't know about who should be calling me out. At the end of the day, that's something that those guys gotta figure out. But there's always movement. I mean, you look at a situation like with Froch and Groves. People knew Groves was on his way up, but he made a name for himself in one night, and now I'm getting fans saying that Groves deserves a shot more than Carl Froch. That happened in one night, and that's what I'm saying; the landscape is always changing. It can change in one night when one guy puts on a vintage performance, even thought that fight didn't get a chance to finish and we never will know what would've happened if he would've had a proper shot to weather that storm and get through it. But those are the types of things I'm talking about. It's several good fights right now that's on the table for me and, like I said, in the next couple weeks, we're going to sit down and work it out.
A guy that people said that I called out after the fight, which I didn't – if you go back and look at my HBO post-fight interview, I didn't call anybody out – but the guy that keeps bringing my name up is Froch. Really with Froch, Froch has two options. Froch either has to go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come see me or he's gonna lose credibility. See, when you build that tough guy, that spartan, unbeatable, granite chin type of image, you gotta uphold that image, and right now, he's in a pickle. He's in a catch-22, and this is not me saying it; these are his fans saying it, the UK fans. He's either gotta go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come avenge the loss to me, like he keeps saying he wants to, or he just needs to quit bringing my name up in these interviews because I don't really think he wants to fight me. I think he's using my name for publicity and just bringing it up because he knows that's what people want to hear. But Froch has two options and that's what he needs to do.
BT: Are you surprised that Froch hasn't tried to come to the table to make that rematch with you yet?
AW: Um, no, I'm not surprised. I mean, you gotta remember, when he fought Kessler, I was in his country and I was open to going to the UK. I told his promoter, "Hey man, pick up the phone; let's see what can be done," but the phone was never picked up, no phone calls were ever made, and really, going over to the UK is off the table right now, especially after what happened to Groves. Again, Carl Froch doesn't have but two options. Either he has to go back to Groves, which I don't think he wants to do, or he has to come to the table with me.
By Ben Thompson | January 03, 2014
"Froch has two options. Froch either has to go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come see me or he's gonna lose credibility. See, when you build that tough guy, that spartan, unbeatable, granite chin type of image, you gotta uphold that image, and right now, he's in a pickle. He's in a catch-22, and this is not me saying it; these are his fans saying it, the UK fans. He's either gotta go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come avenge the loss to me, like he keeps saying he wants to, or he just needs to quit bringing my name up in these interviews...we don't like each other, he keeps talking, and now my motivation is not to beat him, but to stop him," stated undefeated super middleweight king Andre Ward, who had a lot to say about Carl Froch, George Groves, and the possibility of fighting both men. You don't want to miss what else he had to say in this exclusive in-depth interview. Check it out!
BT: Considering that you're not signed with Golden Boy Promotions or Top Rank, you're in a unique position in that you don't have to worry about the cold war that's going on between the two promotional companies. That being said, you do fight on HBO whereas some guys fight on Showtime. Does that make it difficult for you to go after certain fights or is it not really an issue?
AW: I mean, the way it stands right now, I don't really see anybody on the other side that's a big fight for me, so I think for me, fortunately, what's going on with the networks hasn't affected me and I'm happy about that. A lot of the guys that I'm fighting, they're fighting on HBO or they're willing to fight on HBO, so for me, in my weight class, I don't think it's affected me.
BT: Let's talk about your weight class for a minute. When you look at the lay of the land in the super middleweight division, obviously you're at the top of the mountain, so everybody should be looking to knock you off that spot. Knowing that, when you see some of the other champions and top contenders out there, is there anyone that you think should be calling you out?
AW: I don't know about who should be calling me out. At the end of the day, that's something that those guys gotta figure out. But there's always movement. I mean, you look at a situation like with Froch and Groves. People knew Groves was on his way up, but he made a name for himself in one night, and now I'm getting fans saying that Groves deserves a shot more than Carl Froch. That happened in one night, and that's what I'm saying; the landscape is always changing. It can change in one night when one guy puts on a vintage performance, even thought that fight didn't get a chance to finish and we never will know what would've happened if he would've had a proper shot to weather that storm and get through it. But those are the types of things I'm talking about. It's several good fights right now that's on the table for me and, like I said, in the next couple weeks, we're going to sit down and work it out.
A guy that people said that I called out after the fight, which I didn't – if you go back and look at my HBO post-fight interview, I didn't call anybody out – but the guy that keeps bringing my name up is Froch. Really with Froch, Froch has two options. Froch either has to go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come see me or he's gonna lose credibility. See, when you build that tough guy, that spartan, unbeatable, granite chin type of image, you gotta uphold that image, and right now, he's in a pickle. He's in a catch-22, and this is not me saying it; these are his fans saying it, the UK fans. He's either gotta go back to Groves and right that wrong, or he's gotta come avenge the loss to me, like he keeps saying he wants to, or he just needs to quit bringing my name up in these interviews because I don't really think he wants to fight me. I think he's using my name for publicity and just bringing it up because he knows that's what people want to hear. But Froch has two options and that's what he needs to do.
BT: Are you surprised that Froch hasn't tried to come to the table to make that rematch with you yet?
AW: Um, no, I'm not surprised. I mean, you gotta remember, when he fought Kessler, I was in his country and I was open to going to the UK. I told his promoter, "Hey man, pick up the phone; let's see what can be done," but the phone was never picked up, no phone calls were ever made, and really, going over to the UK is off the table right now, especially after what happened to Groves. Again, Carl Froch doesn't have but two options. Either he has to go back to Groves, which I don't think he wants to do, or he has to come to the table with me.
Lets just put it like this, now more than ever Floyd has control of negotiations in regards to making business with TR and making the fight happen. If Manny does leave TR he won't go to TMT so Floyd will still have to cough up a good amount of money to Manny for that fight to happen. Manny is not a fighter making 2 milli a fight, he makes 10+ and would still have a good business team around him. If Floyd really is his own boss than it doesn't matter who the rival promoter is now cuz he will see more money regardless, right? Its like he said Manny can have the WBC belt, yet Floyd hasn't gave it up its for a reason. He's not his own boss. And if Floyd was a fighter first this fight would have already happened. He's not fighting Arum he's fighting Manny
Wtf does manny's tax problems have to do with making the fight? Look bro all im sayin is FLOYD is gonna get his money if they fight, I just dont think he should give a shit about the distribution of manny's half.
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I was thinking about this the other day, it was pretty gay of both of them after multiple post fight interviews they both would say "if the fight doesn't happen, I'm okay with what I've accomplished." I agree, that both fighters should be happy with what they've done in the sport, but they are each others elephant in the room. I've never seen 2 fighters blatantly duck each other when outright asked. It's nothing but excuses. If the excuse from the beginning was "our promoters won't work with each other," that would be believable. This sport is about testing yourself and proving your the best.
This comes days after a Tranny pornstar says she/he has sexual relations with Al Haymon lol.
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