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You're the one just playing games now. You're using the argument that Andriy Kotelnyk is a good fighter by saying he beat Alexander. But then say that Alexander is trash... You say Alexander is garbage for losing to Matthysse, but in other posts say that Judah is great for beating Matthysse...You call out bradley for being dropped by Holt, but act is if Khan didn't have trouble with Maidana..

We get it, when a fighter you like does something, it's epic. And every fighter khan beats is the best. LOL
 
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I was using your logic you moron, obviously it went right over your head.

And I don't know what's up with that last comment my only arguments against you were that a). khan looked impressed against judah and b). judah isn't shot. That's it. In addition I said bradley was a hoe for turning down $3+ million dollars but that's a different story.

I've always maintained that Khan's biggest weakness is his chin and that can never truly be fixed and eventually he'll be KO'd. But for the time being he's the #1 140 pound fighter. Sorry to tell you check the rankings.
 
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Bradley is without question #1 at 140 and he's considering taking legal action against the WBC for their corruption in taking his belt when he broke literally 0 rules. He's not fighting for business reasons, and he's making the correct decision, career wise, by waiting
 
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Their rules are if you are innactive for more than 4 months and have no fights on the horizon they can strip you. Add to that he SAID he was moving to 147 pounds and they stripped him.

And who cares about the WBC's rankings, I go by The Rings rankings which are by far the best and most accurate.

1. Amir Khan
2. Timothy Bradley
3. Marcos Maidana

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings/jr-welterweight

Ring ratings update: Khan advances to No. 1 in junior welterweight rankings

Junior welterweight titleholder Amir Khan did more than add the IBF belt to his WBA 140-pound strap when he dominated Zab Judah to a fifth-round KO on Saturday in Las Vegas.

The 24-year-old British star’s perfectly executed game plan displayed his potentially elite-level skill and talent, which advanced his status within the sport.

THE RING, which rated Khan No. 2 and Judah No. 6 among junior welterweights last week, has upgraded the 2004 Olympic silver medalist to the No. 1 spot, bumping Timothy Bradley from his perch.

Bradley, the undefeated WBC/WBO titleholder from Palm Springs, Calif., was originally scheduled to face Khan (26-1, 18 knockouts) on July 23, but the 27-year-old standout opted out of the fight for a number of legal and business reasons.

Bradley (27-0, 11 KOs) has not fought since unifying the WBO and WBC belts by beating Devon Alexander by technical decision in January.

His inactivity was a factor in being dropped from No. 1 to No. 2, according to Nigel Collins, Editor-in-Chief of THE RING magazine.

“Virtually all of the discussion this week between the editors and the Ratings Advisory Panel focused on whether or not Amir Khan’s KO victory of Zab Judah was enough to elevate Khan to the No. 1 contender position, which was held by Tim Bradley going into last Saturday’s fight,” Collins said. “Although there was one dissenting vote, every other Panel Member responding argued that Khan deserved the top spot due to Bradley’s inactivity. The Editorial Board agreed with the majority and installed Khan at No. 1. Ironically, as it now stands, it would still take a bout between Khan and Bradley to fill THE RING championship vacancy at 140-pounds.”
 
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he's taking legal action because they don't strip faggots like Nonito Donaire who are inactive for far longer than 4 months with no defense.... thats why donaire is hopping on that floyd card
 
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You're the one just playing games now. You're using the argument that Andriy Kotelnyk is a good fighter by saying he beat Alexander. But then say that Alexander is trash... You say Alexander is garbage for losing to Matthysse, but in other posts say that Judah is great for beating Matthysse...You call out bradley for being dropped by Holt, but act is if Khan didn't have trouble with Maidana..

We get it, when a fighter you like does something, it's epic. And every fighter khan beats is the best. LOL
he does that....
 
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went over your head too apparently. He went through Khan's resume and downplayed all his victories. I did the same to Bradley's to show how ridiculous it is.

You can do that to anyones career, floyd, pacquiao, ali, oscar, foreman, hopkins, etc. If you have an agenda you can discredit anyones career. Pacquiao - fought old past prime bums. Floyd - ducked all the best fighters. Hopkins - beat up smaller guys. Oscar - lost all his big fights, etc etc etc.
 
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except no one said anything about manny, or oscar, or floyd...

The fact is that Amir Khan isn't number 1 at 140. period...

It's cool though, keep saying ignorant shit and then try to say you were "joking" and "mocking us" and shit. Keep believing anything that Ring Magazine tells you. carry on, nothing more to see here..
 
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1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Nonito Donaire
3. Amir Khan
4. Freddie Roach
5. Bob Arum

GOAT shit

EDIT: On the night that pacquiao beats marquez, he's going to briefly be #1 p4p beforehand
 
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Current top 10 pound for pound:

Kevin Mcbride
Odlanier Solis
Devon Alexander
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Demarcus Corley
Ricardo Mayorga
Roy Jones Jr
Yuri Foreman
Kelly Pavlik
 
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chill. bob arum told me so, if u want 7 irrelevant articles, 2 photoshops, and a couple videos about how i came up with this, I'm ready. I am a boxing genius, my intellect goes right over you common folk
 
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Tyson Fury: “I think they’re trying to build a Klitschko fight now

Tyson Fury: “I think they’re trying to build a Klitschko fight now, but I’m not going to stay stagnant like Chisora did”

by Geoffrey Ciani (Exclusive Interview by Jenna J & Geoffrey Ciani) - This week’s 135th edition of On the Ropes Boxing Radio (brought to you by CWH Promotions) featured an exclusive interview with the newly crowned British and Commonwealth Heavyweight Champion Tyson Fury (15-0, 10 KOs) who is coming off an impressive upset victory against Dereck Chisora (14-1, 9 KOs). Fury spoke about his big win and also talked about his future and provided some opinions on the current boxing landscape. Here are some questions and answers from that interview:

JENNA J: You’re coming off a very impressive performance this past weekend against Dereck Chisora. You said on our last interview if you couldn’t beat him you were a bum, but you beat him. How do you feel now that you did it?

TYSON FURY: Well I don’t feel any different than before I beat him to be honest with you. It was one of those things I knew I could beat Dereck Chisora. He didn’t have my number and I knew I had his number. He was a good worthy challenger and he was a good British champion, but it was just unfortunate he had to come against Tyson Fury the way that he did. I do believe if it was any other British heavyweight or any other heavyweight in the world bar the Klitschkos, he would have done a job on them because he’s a strong tough man.

JENNA: Is there anything during the fight that he did that surprised you?

FURY: No he didn’t do anything to surprise me, because I knew what he was going to do before he did it himself. He came in extra heavy to try and knock me out of it, and he didn’t manage to do it and that was it. I out boxed him.

JENNA: Now you mentioned his weight. Do you think if he came in lighter that he might have performed any differently?

FURY: No. I do believe that if he came in any lighter he wouldn’t have lasted the distance. But then again it wouldn’t have mattered because I wasn’t putting any power in the shots after about three or four rounds. They were only tap punches. There was no power in them. They were non-damaging blows so it wouldn’t have mattered.

JENNA: One thing you showed during the fight was that you have a lot of poise. When he was attacking you, you stayed calm and you composed yourself. What do you think allowed you to that?

FURY: I’m just a kind and relaxed kind of person and it’s only a boxing match at the end of the day. He hasn’t got anything that I haven’t seen before. He’s only a man with a pair of gloves on and he’s coming and swinging some punches at me. I’ve been training since I’ve been 14 years old with boxing and stuff, so if I can’t defend myself from a punch or if I get upset or wary when somebody attacks me than I’m obviously not good at my job. Am I? So I just think it’s about keeping calm and relaxed and just doing your job, and that’s what it is. It’s a job. So you get in there, you do it, no hard feelings, and may the best man win, and that’s how it goes and that’s how I do it.

JENNA: Now do you feel this past weekend’s performance was the best of your career?

FURY: No, not really. It wasn’t the best performance of my career by far. I thought it was okay on the night because I had done what I had to do and beat him. There was a lot on the fight, a lot going, but it wasn’t one of the best performances, by far. No. There is a lot more to come from Tyson Fury. That’s just a chip off the block.

JENNA: Alright well the critics had you as an underdog in this fight and you proved them wrong. Where do you see yourself going forward?

FURY: Obviously I’m going to look at this now and go back to the drawing board. I’ve got a lot of things to work on. I’m not a finished article. I’m 22 and I’ve got a lot of things to work on. I’m going to just keep training and keep taking it easy. I think they’re trying to build a Klitschko fight now, but I’m not going to stay stagnant like Chisora did. I’m going to keep busy. I want to keep busy and I think keeping busy is the most important thing. So I’m just waiting for my hands to heal up, and then I’m going to be back in training and I should be fighting again by October.

GEOFFREY CIANI: Tyson in the second round of that fight, Chisora seemed to get to you a little bit and it looked like he might cause you a lot more trouble than he wound up causing you overall. Did he get to you at any point in that round where he hurt you or had you at all worried?

FURY: No. He caught me with some good shots, credit to him, but I wasn’t hurt, wobbled, stunned, or anything! Forget what the commentators say, because they aren’t taking the punches. Are they? I’m an honest person. If I was wobbled or hurt I’d say it, and I wasn’t. I’ve never been wobbled in my life. I’ve never been put down, wobbled, stunned, or anything. He got me with some good shots, but I was fully focused on what I was doing. He was just blowing himself out, really. I was just letting him come on. If you watch the tape I was smiling. I wasn’t hurt or anything. He fell for my game plan. Everything done in that fight was done on purpose and he just went for the kill before I did and he lost, simple.

CIANI: You seemed to have improved a great deal in your technique and your balance especially the last year and half or so. What do you attribute these improvements to?

FURY: Just dedication, really. Before I wasn’t eating correctly, I was going in fat as a pig unfit. I wasn’t training. I was training, but I wasn’t eating correct and the food is the most important thing. If you’re not eating correct you’re not a fit fighter and I was never a fit fighter before. I was always carrying a lot of fat and the results were in the performances. As far as balance it’s just about working on it in the gym, isn’t it, and doing different things or whatever. I’ve always had good balance, I’ve always been a good mover, and for a heavyweight I can move and I’m quite quick on my feet. So it’s always been there, it’s just about getting it out and using it. If you think that was a good performance, I’m telling you you’re in for a massive shock, big time! I would rate that out of ten maybe a three or a four. That was nowhere near my best. You’re in for a massive shock if you think that was a good performance!

CIANI: Well what do you think it will take to bring out the best of Tyson Fury?

FURY: Just the dedication, to keep going with the dedication, and keep training, and just staying active and it will come over night. One day I’ll go in the ring and I’ll be the finished article, but I’m not a finished article as of yet. I’ve still got a lot of learning to do and a lot of practicing, and I’ll get there. Well there are plenty of fights out there for me at the moment so we’re not in a rush to fight anyone. We’ve got the titles now and they have to come to me really if they want to fight.

CIANI: David Haye who recently challenged Wladimir, he wasn’t a very popular fighter over here in America. Fans didn’t tend to like him, or know about him, or care about him that much. Do you think in the long run that you have the potential to make that crossover appeal where you can be popular both in your home country and over here in America?

FURY: I do because I wear my heart on my sleeve and I do believe the American fight fans delight that. I’m tall here, but let me tell you I beat him on the inside as well. I outfought him, I outboxed him, and I out counterpunched him. So I’m an all around package. I’ve got a good chin, I can punch, I’m quick enough, and I go in for a fight as well regardless. I do believe when they get to see me a bit more they’ll like what they see and hopefully they’ll get behind me.

JENNA: Alright well Tyson, let’s talk about what’s next. You said you’re looking towards October to return to the ring, and previously you had been in talks with Hasim Rahman. Do you think that’s the type of fight you would want to get yourself ranked by the sanctioning organizations?

FURY: To be honest with you, it’s whatever Mick Hennessy does. It’s not up to me. It’s up to my promoter Mick Hennessy. There are plenty of fights out there. All these guys are going to want to fight me now, all of these Hasim Rahmans and all these guys, but they are all old guys. I’m young and I’m ambitious. They can’t beat me! They’re too old! This is a young man’s sport. To be honest, they aren’t fit to put them in the ring with me, Hasim Rahman or any of those men, because I’m just too young and too big. They’ll get seriously hurt. He’s had a lot of fights Rahman and he’s took a lot of punishment. Just to put him with a giant 22 year old as well is just going to put the icing on the cake. It would be silly, really. I would be looking to fight some prospects. I like taking undefeated records, to be honest. So while we are setting up a Klitschko fight I won’t mind fighting Daunte Wilder, or Nazim Patrick the young Canadian champion, or David Price the Olympic Bronze Medalist. There are plenty of undefeated guys out there. I like these undefeated guys. No one can slate them. Everyone has got say good things when I beat them, so that’s what I like.

CIANI: Which fight coming up the rest of this year are you most looking forward to from the perspective of a fan?

FURY: Well I’m quite looking forward to Klitschko-Adamek, to be honest. I’m very looking forward to it. I’m looking forward to Ortiz and Mayyweather as well, and that’s about it really. That’s the only fights I can think of at the moment that I’m looking forward to.

CIANI: And how do you see the Ortiz-Mayweather one playing out?

FURY: I see Ortiz going down as another one of his victim’s to be honest, because Mayweather is in a different league really to Victor Ortiz. Victor Ortiz is a very good man. He’s a world champion. I give a lot of credit to him as a fighter, but a good boxer will always beat a good fighter. Victor Ortiz is a good fighter, but Mayweather is a super phenomenal boxer and I do believe Mayweather will outbox him quite easily.

JENNA: I wanted to get your news on the news that Antonio Tarver returned and scored a big upset over Danny Green.

FURY: Well Tarver’s a bigger man than Green, isn’t he? Green’s only a super middleweight who’s moved up to cruiserweight. He’s not really a cruiserweight so it was expected really. But I’ll tell you what, he wants to stay out of the heavyweight division because he almost had a fight with me one time when we were going to be on the bill with Amir Khan and Paul McCloskey and his management team didn’t take it. So I don’t care where he goes from the cruiserweight but just stay out of my division because I’m cleaning it up.

JENNA: Your fans were cheering very loud for you on the night this past weekend. Is there anything you want to say to your supporters?

FURY: I just want to thank everyone for coming and watching me, and without fans fighters are nothing. We all know that. We all need supporters or we don’t go anywhere in boxing. Without boxing fans boxing wouldn’t be an existing sport at the moment. So all credit goes to the fans really and thank you everybody for coming and watching, and just keep following me. There are big things to come in the future and hopefully I can get world titles and give them something to really cheer for.
 
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Donaire plans on fighting two more times in 2011

By Jason Kim: With his contract issues behind him with Top Rank, WBC/WBO bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire (26-1, 18 KO’s) says he plans on squeezing in two more fights in 2011, starting in October and then another in December. Donaire will likely fight WBA bantamweight champion Anselmo Moreno in October or Koki Kameda.

As for the December fight, Donaire wants to fight on the December 3rd undercard of the Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito bout. No opponent is picked out, but the winner of the Abner Mares vs. Joseph Agbeko fight would be perfect for that date. Donaire didn’t take part in Showtime’s bantamweight tournament, which is unfortunate because Donaire likely would have won it. With Donaire and Montiel not taking part in the tournament, it took a lot of the air out of it and seemed to make it more of a tourney to pick a challenger to Donaire than a tourney designed to pick an actual champion.

Donaire, 28, hasn’t fought since destroying WBC/WBO bantamweight champion Fernando Montiel in a 2nd round TKO in February. The fight was a very important one for Donaire, as it gave him a lot of attention in the boxing world and he finally appeared to be on his way making a name for himself after languishing for four years without any big fights after a win over Vic Darchinyan in 2007.

The contract squabbles with Top Rank messed things up for Donaire, as he’s had to deal that headache hanging over his head for the past five months now. However, Donaire recently resigned with Top Rank, adding another 4 years to his contract.