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May 13, 2002
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So did they strip Vitali for not fighting Maskaev or did the WBC remove Maskaev as a mandatory?
i guess it was bullshit. Valuev's manager or whoever said the fight was going to happen, but apparently the klitschko's denied ever being offered a fight. I guess Valuev's manager was trying to use it as leverage or negotiating because from what I read, Valuev is to fight John Ruiz for the third time (no joke).
 
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ortiz got banged weak ass little fucc, why is he on the ea game he needs to earn some stripes first!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yep hes not fully molded yet, i hate when the young dogs get thrown in with the big dogs so early. he could of won if woulda used his jab and boxed more, he rushes in too much. that was a bad loss and he didn't fight like a champion at the end
 
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@408mobsta .. I see Guerrero got a fight against Malcolm Klassen. If you all need any footage on Klassen let me know, I got his last fight against Cassius Baloyi. A very dope fight and pretty much shows what Klassen is made of. Gonna be a tough fight for Guerrero.
hell yeah he was watching film lastnite not sure which 1 but send ur contact and ill make sure u get a sign pic or somthing 4 the tape...
 
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yep hes not fully molded yet, i hate when the young dogs get thrown in with the big dogs so early. he could of won if woulda used his jab and boxed more, he rushes in too much. that was a bad loss and he didn't fight like a champion at the end
yup we were watching the fight ,,now...hes gunna have 2 deal wit the media which i heard is very tough...i think they rushed him up there...still green and it showed but hes still young n good tho..
 
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John Watson Continues To Have Faith in Hayemaker

By Terence Dooley

Undefeated lightweight prospect John Watson, 26, is sticking by his promotional outfit, the Hayemaker boxer watched with disappointment as Setanta, who exclusively televise Hayemaker shows, went down the tubes earlier this week. However, the Liverpudlian youngster, 10-0 (4) as a pro, is not panicking, he believes that his boss will pull the organization out of the doldrums, and onto the TV screens.

Watson, who won an ABA title in 2004, is putting his faith in the marketability of David Haye, but is aware that the organization’s boxers face a tough six-moth period. Watson told the Liverpool Echo that he might be facing a long layoff himself.

“I think we may be looking at up to six months out of the ring but hopefully it won’t come to that,” he said. “In my opinion no other promoter in Britain puts on shows of the quality that Hayemaker do. Every fight on our cards are competitive and surely the TV companies will see that too.”

Hayemaker’s ace in the hole is Haye himself, who needs to put the disappointment of the aborted Wlad Klitschko fight to one side, and get back into the boxing ring. Watson believes that an active Haye will be good for everyone involved with the fledgling company.

“David Haye is the biggest star in world boxing,” he continued. “Never mind Britain, and Sky Sports surely realize that. With Joe Calzaghe and Ricky Hatton gone they need a marquee fighter to headline pay-per-view shows and David is that man. When you have a champion like that in your stable it stops you from worrying about the future too much, that’s for sure.”

Watson is a little worried, though, but not about his own career. Instead, he showed a lot of sympathy for his promotional stablemates, especially heavyweight David Price, who has only had one professional outing.

“Not so much for the likes of myself but I really feel for David Price in particular,” he lamented. “He’s only had one fight in six months after turning pro and there are one or two other new heavyweights out there getting the jump on him. Believe me, I’ve been watching him in the gym over the last few weeks, and he’s something very special. He’ll conquer them all eventually but what he needs most is fights. We all do.”

Haye has been negotiating with Sky Sports, who need to realize that, as a dedicated sports channel, they have an obligation to their subscribers, a good number of whom subscribe solely for the paltry boxing output that the channel provides. Hayemaker shows have featured some memorable fights, competitive contests that resulted in two-way action; they would be a good addition to Sky’s boxing output.

In the meantime British boxing fans will be keeping their fingers crossed, having the likes of Watson, Price, and Haye sat on the shelf is bad for the domestic game. Haye’s recent inactivity is especially harmful to his promotional company, as fighter-driven outfits rely heavily on the activity of their marquee fighter.
 
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Allan Green Tells Carl Froch "He Will Knock Him Out"

By Terence Dooley

American boxer Allan Green, 29, has renewed his calls for a contest with Carl Froch. Green, who came to prominence when knocking out Jaidon Codrington in a single round back in 2005, told the Daily Mail that he will come to Nottingham, Froch’s hometown, and wrest the WBC super-middleweight title from Froch’s grasp.

“I'm willing to go to his backyard, knock him out, then go back to Nottingham for an immediate rematch and knock him out again to make an example out of him,” said Green. “It's only going to be a short amount of time before I'm the sultan of the super middleweights. I have a lot of respect for Froch and his skills, but he doesn't go more than six rounds with me,” added the confident American boxer.

Froch is due to defend his title in October, with promoter Mick Hennessey stating that the venue will be dictated by the opponent. Green, who defeated Carlos De Leon Junior in two rounds last time out, is a renowned trash talker, and would not be shy in hyping the bout.

Carl’s last-gasp victory over Jermain Taylor in April has made him a commodity in world boxing terms, a fight against Green, whose sole loss came against Edison Miranda, would unite two solid hitters in a fight to the finish. Plus, the pre-fight pressers would see plenty of verbal fireworks.

Froch, 31, has had back-to-back FOTY candidates against quality opposition. He won his title with a points victory over Jean Pascal, current WBC light-heavyweight boss, before knocking out Taylor with 14-seconds remaining in their bout, Showtime picked that one up in the US, it was snubbed by UK broadcasters.

Carl hopes to completely crack the US TV market; despite his do-or-die attitude the likes of HBO would probably commission Dawson-Tarver III before going with the Englishman, so he may have to approach Showtime once again.

However, a fight with Green, who is favored by the US TV networks, would whet the appetite of boxing fans, and may even tempt a UK broadcaster into airing a Froch title defence, one can but hope
 
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Pavlik vs Sturm in Doubt After HBO Lowballs The Fight

By Rick Reeno

The proposed middleweight unification bout between [WBC/WBO] Kelly Pavlik and [WBA] Felix Sturm is in serious doubt. And not because of some political wrangling from the fighters or the promoters. BoxingScene.com was advised by more than one source that HBO is only offering $2 million dollars for the fight. The same network that paid $3.5 million for the rematch between Chad Dawson and Antonio Tarver.

I hear Showtime is interested in Pavlik-Sturm but there are obvious concerns over the network's ability to offer enough money to make the fight happen. Obviously the economy is hurting everyone. But, when HBO has their eye on a certain fighter, like a Chad Dawson, and he happens to fight for a network rival, like a Showtime - HBO will do whatever is financially necessary to get their man. In those kind of situations, HBO is fully capable of adding a few zeros at the end.

This situation is the shadow of a much bigger problem in the sport. Too many promoters are completely dependent on the television networks. Top Rank is one of the few promotional companies who don't fully depend on the networks. When a network like HBO shows no interest, Top Rank does not change their plan of action. Instead they create their own pay-per-view events like Latin Fury or their new series, Pinoy Power. Warriors Boxing, Square Ring and other promotional outfits have also put together their own pay-per-views when the major networks showed no interest.

Just think about this, the two best heavyweights in the world have not fought on HBO in 2009. The Klitschko brothers are so big overseas and make so much money from their German television deals that HBO is not a necessity to either of them. As boxing becomes more of a global playing ground, expect more fighters to move forward with major events without the involvement of HBO or other American-based television networks.

The promoters have given networks like HBO too much power. And because of this power, HBO has basically become more of a promoter than a network. In many cases HBO will present a selective list of opponents they [HBO] are willing to approve. And the promoter has no choice but to pick from that list or take a walk. Most promoters give in and very few actually walk. In some cases the opponents on that list are not in the best interest of the promoter, the fighter or the viewing public. One example was HBO's recent desire to see a fight between Andre Berto and Zab Judah. At the same time the network passed on Tomasz Adamek vs. Glen Johnson, Wladimir Klitschko vs. Ruslan Chagaev and Jermain Taylor vs. Carl Froch.

HBO has certainly improved their quality of televised fights but there continues to be some very peculiar decisions being made at the network. Certain people can present complete mismatches on paper and have them approved. Certain people will receive television dates for a fighter without an opponent being set. These problems will not evaporate overnight but very few people are willing to talk about these problems in the open and even fewer are willing to take a stand against the system.
 
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Nate Campbell Not Surprised By Victor Ortiz Loss

By Rick Reeno

In the aftermath of Victor Ortiz vs. Marcos Maidana, I received a lot of calls, emails and texts from writers, fighters and industry players who were not surprised that Maidana was able to upset Ortiz in the HBO televised headliner at Staples Center in California. The fight itself was a classic and saw five knockdowns before Maidana put Ortiz away in the sixth.

One of the best quotes I was given came from former lightweight champion Nate Campbell, who thought Ortiz was being manufactured as the next big thing by the media. Prior to his loss, there were many who called Ortiz the second coming of Oscar De La Hoya.

You earn championship status, its not given to you. You can’t take a guy who fought nobody and claim them as the next coming. The first time you put them in with somebody who just don’t give a f*ck, this is what you get. I’m not glad that Ortiz lost but I am glad that a guy like Maidana, who gets no press, comes in and fights his ass off and gets the win,” Campbell said.
 
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yep hes not fully molded yet, i hate when the young dogs get thrown in with the big dogs so early. he could of won if woulda used his jab and boxed more, he rushes in too much. that was a bad loss and he didn't fight like a champion at the end
Ortiz did jump the gun on fighting crazy but it's hard to box up a guy like Maidana without the pressure getting to you eventually. Maidana isn't going to stop coming unless you put him down so hard he can't make it up and not only that he can punch too.

Watch his fight with Kotelnik a much better pure boxer than Ortiz with a far better jab and how many problems he had with Maidana. Maidana wasn't necessarily a big dog, even though he might be considered one now. He rarely fought out of Argentina, he's an extremely crude boxer and his only tough fight was against Kotelnik who while very good isn't as good a puncher as Ortiz.

Ortiz still has a bright future ahead of him if he decides to get back in there. He's just gonna have to learn to deal with a guy who can take his punches and keep on coming. Eventually he'll have to fight a guy like Maidana again if not Maidana himself.
 
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it didn't sound like ortiz has a lot of heart, I mean as far as the comments he made after saying how he didn't want to continue fighting because he didn't want to end all fucked up later in his life and that he has some thinking to do because he shouldn't have to take beatings like that. He didn't sound like a guy with a fighters mentality, imo.

Awesome fight nonetheless.
 
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it didn't sound like ortiz has a lot of heart, I mean as far as the comments he made after saying how he didn't want to continue fighting because he didn't want to end all fucked up later in his life and that he has some thinking to do because he shouldn't have to take beatings like that. He didn't sound like a guy with a fighters mentality, imo.

Awesome fight nonetheless.
I don't know. Only time will tell I guess. The kid is only 22, kept being called the face of boxing's future, was faced with a killer who for the first time in his career took Victor's hardest punches and didn't run away. Ortiz's problem was that he vocalized everything he was thinking immediately after a crushing and embarrassing loss.

A lot of fighters go into seclusion after being crushed and are probably thinking the same shit Ortiz said .. they just don't say it in public.
 

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^^^^^Thats very true....He's still young minded....He has the tools though...I see what the hype was....Now if he can put that loss behind him, and harden his mentality he will be good....But the body language of him when Mosley and Oscar were talking to him didnt seem good.......IDK if he really wants to be a boxer.....He's a smart young dude 2.......Im rambling....but the best of luck to the kid and i hope he decides to stay in the ring because he's damn good.....
 
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I don't know. Only time will tell I guess. The kid is only 22, kept being called the face of boxing's future, was faced with a killer who for the first time in his career took Victor's hardest punches and didn't run away. Ortiz's problem was that he vocalized everything he was thinking immediately after a crushing and embarrassing loss.

A lot of fighters go into seclusion after being crushed and are probably thinking the same shit Ortiz said .. they just don't say it in public.
he totally changed his tune in the post fight conference and oscar fielded some questions for him. I think they had a big talk with Ortiz on what not to say in the locker room.

He is young though and he did admit he had the wrong plan in the ring, all he was thinking of was the KO and he didn't do what his trainers had trained him to do, so that's a good start. He definitely has the tools, just hope his mind is there.
 
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Right on the button tho!

I've gotten kicked in the grill during training, and I swear I felt paralyzed for a couple seconds after I was knocked down, like my eyes were open, but my body wouldn't respond.

Still though, I bet the muay thai roundhouse I took wasn't even .00000001% of the power generated by Fields in that devestating left from hell.
 
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RIP to a true legend. Sad news.

Managua mayor, ex-boxing champ, found dead

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MANAGUA, Nicaragua (AP) — Managua Mayor Alexis Arguello, a three-time world boxing champion, has been found dead.

Presidential spokeswoman Rosario Murillo confirms the death.

His Sandinista party's Radio Ya says coroners are conducting an autopsy to determine the cause of death.

Arguello once fought against the Sandinistas in the 1980s, but joined the party to win election as mayor of the capital in 2008.

Born in 1952, the Hall of Fame boxer was known as "The Explosive Thin Man" in the ring.
Alexis Argüello died around 1:45 AM local time on July 1st after he shot himself through the heart according to a report from Channel 8, National Television. The National Police have confirmed the death, but are still waiting the results of the autopsy.