BLACK PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON ARE THE FATTEST PEOPLE IN THE US

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If only it were that simple. As much as it pains people to hear, I am a Conservative 4 Life, no matter what other people around me believe. The only real wildcards about that are Hip-Hop and Islam, which I will not allow to be defiled by either side, Con or Lib.
 

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xpanther206 said:
On the whole, Aberdeen has twice as many people in poverty.

People in poverty still have homes. I was talking about people that live on the streets. Which is what Tadou went off on...But like you said there's not catagory on the census for 'bum' or 'homeless person' but I'd say there's probably more in Seattle...
 
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Sixxness said:
I'd say there's probably more in Seattle...
Without a doubt. There's lots of homeless people in Seattle many of whom are not from Seattle, but rather moved here once they started that transient lifestyle. The main reason Seattle is a destination for these folks is because of the weather. There aren't many homeless people in the Midwest, even though the cities there are much much poorer, because you die if you're homeless in the wintertime out there.

And by the way, am I the only guy on here who is fucking annoyed at all the fucking sorry fucks I see at the end of freeway ramps all over the metro area. They piss me off. Only person that's got a prayer getting a penny from me is somebody under the Yesler Street Bridge downtown, atleast them folks look the part and are straight real with what they tell you.
 

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xpanther206 said:
And by the way, am I the only guy on here who is fucking annoyed at all the fucking sorry fucks I see at the end of freeway ramps all over the metro area. They piss me off. Only person that's got a prayer getting a penny from me is somebody under the Yesler Street Bridge downtown, atleast them folks look the part and are straight real with what they tell you.
LOL...I feel you on that.

I have seen the same kid with a sign that says "I need money for a bus ticket home" for almost 2 years now.

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Sixxness said:
People in poverty still have homes. I was talking about people that live on the streets. Which is what Tadou went off on...But like you said there's not catagory on the census for 'bum' or 'homeless person' but I'd say there's probably more in Seattle...
"More", of course. Per capita...not even close.


Interestingly enough, most Black people in Aberdeen are overweight. Go figure.
 
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For once I have to side with Tadou. Not on the food but that Aberdeen is poorer than Seattle. Everyone seems to think Seattle is the rawest (read ghettoest) city in the NW, because it is the biggest. But I know Spokane, Yakima, Tacoma, even rural spots like aberdeen, sunnyside, toppinish and walla walla have much more poverty and some have higher crime rates. I have never felt unsafe or threatened in Seattle (I know someone is going to say "come to my neighboorhood!" but I mean in general) whereas I definetly have carried a knife or not gone places alone late at night in Spokane/yakima/tacoma. Correct me if I'm wrong on some examples but I know I got most right. Aberdeen is a dirty ass place, but not necissarily dangerous by any means. I don't blame you for leaving tadou.
 
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MacGuinn said:
For once I have to side with Tadou. Not on the food but that Aberdeen is poorer than Seattle. Everyone seems to think Seattle is the rawest (read ghettoest) city in the NW, because it is the biggest. But I know Spokane, Yakima, Tacoma, even rural spots like aberdeen, sunnyside, toppinish and walla walla have much more poverty and some have higher crime rates. I have never felt unsafe or threatened in Seattle (I know someone is going to say "come to my neighboorhood!" but I mean in general) whereas I definetly have carried a knife or not gone places alone late at night in Spokane/yakima/tacoma. Correct me if I'm wrong on some examples but I know I got most right. Aberdeen is a dirty ass place, but not necissarily dangerous by any means. I don't blame you for leaving tadou.
You're right. Fact is, Seattle is a far less impoverished/violent city than the vast majority of major cities (by the way, which is why gangster rap here has no chance no matter how good the music is). It's not that there are no rough folks in the city, it's that they make up a much smaller percentage of our population. Our city also isn't nearly as racially segregated as other American cities. It all adds up to a city where 90% of it is not feared by anybody.

I agree with you about your assessment of the region. Knowing what I know from looking at a lot of census, police, demographic & health data, if I had to come up with a 'gangster hierarchy' for the Northwest it would look something like this:

1) Yakima
2) Tacoma
3) Toppenish/Sunnyside (poor Eastern WA, poverty can get as high as 40%)
4) Rough Seattle-Portland (about 10% of each city)
5) Everett
6) Seattle-Portland (entire city)
7) Spokane
8) Aberdeen & other blue-collar small towns, more folks are poor, but no safety issues
9) Eugene-Bellingham
 
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^^


.. very interesting... I wonder how Caldwell/Nampa "Canyon County" (Idaho) compares.. per capita to Yakima and/or Tacoma... I'm gonna look into that.. :)
 
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Canyon County Idaho = 12.0% poverty (right on the national average)

Caldwell city = 16% poverty, a little higher (28% Mexican in this town, so they more than likely account for the majority of that 16%)

Nampa city = 12.4% poverty

As for violence/gangsterness etc. I can't speak on it, but I'd imagine it's pretty infrequent like it is in Aberdeen despite the fact Aberdeen is, as Tadou pointed out, poorer than the urban areas in the Northwest.

I'm not some fucking genius, I just know where to look:
US Census Bureau American FactFinder
 
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ABD is tame, yet, `lots` of poverty, if you choose to put it that way. Interestingly enough though, the schools (and Grays Harbor College) are all very good. No metal detectors, gangs, rampant bullying, or any of this type of things.

Its one of the reasons I encourage Black people and other minorities to check into those Blue-collar towns before just writing them off. They're safe, they're cheap to live in, and the job opportunities aren't half bad. Throw in that most rural towns in Western Washington are Liberal-orientated, and you've got a good situation waiting to happen.

MacGuinn said:
Aberdeen is a dirty ass place, but not necissarily dangerous by any means. I don't blame you for leaving tadou.
Agreed. It's a hole, but I'll be back. It's the kind of city you despise and appreciate at the same time.
 
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Dirty Shoez said:
Its one of the reasons I encourage Black people and other minorities to check into those Blue-collar towns before just writing them off. They're safe, they're cheap to live in, and the job opportunities aren't half bad.
Yep, pretty much the entire NFL comes from places precisely like you are describing, many of them in the South where the 'minority' thiing doesn't exist as much b/c those towns are typically 50-50ish or close to that.
 
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xpanther206 said:
^^

Canyon County Idaho = 12.0% poverty (right on the national average)

Caldwell city = 16% poverty, a little higher (28% Mexican in this town, so they more than likely account for the majority of that 16%)

Nampa city = 12.4% poverty

As for violence/gangsterness etc. I can't speak on it, but I'd imagine it's pretty infrequent like it is in Aberdeen despite the fact Aberdeen is, as Tadou pointed out, poorer than the urban areas in the Northwest.

I'm not some fucking genius, I just know where to look:
US Census Bureau American FactFinder



Ok- so if I'm reading the information on the site correctly.. they compile information for 3-5 years and publish the info..? so the last update on the site is the 2004 census, data having been compiled from 1998-2003..? or am I way off base here..

The numbers you came up dont seem close enough to accurate thats the reason I'm curious..
 
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Hold up.. the info on the census site is a 2000 census.. it states no information is available for the 2004 study..
 
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xpanther206 said:
Yeah it's all 2000 data, but believe me this stuff doesn't change all that fast, it changes some.




In the past 6-8 years (depending on when the initial data was collected that you posted up from the census) this place has made HUGE changes.. but when I have the facts to post up I'll speak more on it.
 

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MacGuinn said:
I disagree with that, seems that poverty brings hopelessness/violence. Could be wrong tho. Anyone got statistics?

^^Should look up the Uniform Crime Reports (UCRs). They deal with things like that as well as other stuff, we went over that in one of my sociology courses last quarter, the prof went on and on about this subject we're talkin about right now. People with less opportunity usually have to make opportunities for themselves, like stealing someone's shit to get some money for food, bad example for Aberdeen but whatever....When people dont' have what they need they will do what they need to get it, it's a basic survival instinct. It's probably much less extreme in Aberdeen (I could be wrong) than other highly populated industrial areas. The most crime happens in those areas anyway according to stats I saw awhile back (no I dont' have a link, sorry).
 

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xpanther206 said:
Yeah it's all 2000 data, but believe me this stuff doesn't change all that fast, it changes some.

I could be wrong, but generally speaking, wouldn't small towns have the most opportunity to make the biggest change? They have the most room to grow and change, and the smaller population would make it look like a much more dramatic change....