Blacc on Blacc VIOLENCE
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Why should it stop? What type of music do you listen to?
LMAO! Please tell me how blacks are supposed to ride on the police when blacks are not a unified fighting force with training, most have no concept of war tactics, have no center for financial backing and run from the po po everytime they hit the block?
What about the black people that are corrupting the communities without the police involvement?
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LMAO! Please tell me how blacks are supposed to ride on the police when blacks are not a unified fighting force with training, most have no concept of war tactics, have no center for financial backing and run from the po po everytime they hit the block?
What about the black people that are corrupting the communities without the police involvement?
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It does everything you mentioned and more.
Lingua Francas and Creoles bring people together. Creoles/Pidgins are generally a waste of time. Swahli, on the other hand, is a top Lingua Franca.
It has a tremendous amount of borrowings from Arabic, French and English, but it remains a Bantu (i.e., Niger-Congo, i.e., African) language. Niger-Congo is the largest Sub-Saharan African language group, and Swahili is at the top of the list. Most of the others are tribal languages.
Swahili is a fairly easy language to speak. It is written in Latin characters, the same as English. There are very few foreign sounds. Neither are there tones or tongue clicks, the latter of which is nearly impossible for a non-native speaker or adult to learn.
The Language itself sends a message.
To African people, it sends the message that we have not forgot about them. They are in crisis mode, more so now than ever before, and this will be our way to work back towards them. Swahili being adopted as a Black American Language, will inevitably lead to British and Canadian Blacks accepting it as well. Once it is realized that Non-African Blacks in the world speak Swahli in large numbers, the middle and upper classes in Africa will begin to learn it as well, if they don't already know it. This will make it all much easier for Swahli-speaking Americans to go to Africa, without needing translators to follow them around everywhere. Africa desperately needs teachers and other professionals right now. You cannot do these jobs being dependent on English, unless you want to force a colonizer language on the African people. I am sure they wuold much rather adopt Swahli.
To White people, it sends the message that we are organizing. We demand our own co-official language. If Hispanics and Asians can get special treatment and teachers that teach not only Spanish but Latino culture, then so too should we have teachers to teach us Swahili and African culture. Come to think of it, Organizing does not quite cover it. Awakening is more like it.
To Black people, it is the coolest shit ever. Like i explained, it is a relatively easy language to learn, and will have a lot of overlappings with English, yet it IS an African language and SOUNDS like one as well. This could send a bigger message here too. If Blacks start to talk to each other strictly in Swahili, but everyone else in English.....that is a powerful message. White people in Swahli classes would be looked at funny, because there would be no real use for it other than to talk to Black people, and even then, you wouldn't know if they would talk it back to you. --- How is that not one of the most potentially hilarious things you've read about? --- Rapping, Talking, Bullshitting, on the Basketball court. Fuck the N-Word specifically--we could replace that with the whole Swahli language.
Just imagine some white dude walking up to you 10 years from now, and saying "What's up, Bro?" in Swahili. I'd be laughing like crazy at this foolish person.
Not to mention the crazy potential that would exist at being able to dump literally thousands of new words into Black movies, Black rap songs, Black slang, Black business and everything else. It would be our special new thing, that we just up and decided to go for. And nobody would be able to take that away from us.
I don't know about you all, but I'm not learning Swahili for me. Inshallah, if i ever have kids, they will all be raised speaking Swahili at home. Which means I need to get on my job more sooner than later.
Black on Black violence though...heh heh...no clue. But Swahili is a good start. Instead of US vs US, embracing Swahili will officially make it US vs THEM.
Lingua Francas and Creoles bring people together. Creoles/Pidgins are generally a waste of time. Swahli, on the other hand, is a top Lingua Franca.
It has a tremendous amount of borrowings from Arabic, French and English, but it remains a Bantu (i.e., Niger-Congo, i.e., African) language. Niger-Congo is the largest Sub-Saharan African language group, and Swahili is at the top of the list. Most of the others are tribal languages.
Swahili is a fairly easy language to speak. It is written in Latin characters, the same as English. There are very few foreign sounds. Neither are there tones or tongue clicks, the latter of which is nearly impossible for a non-native speaker or adult to learn.
The Language itself sends a message.
To African people, it sends the message that we have not forgot about them. They are in crisis mode, more so now than ever before, and this will be our way to work back towards them. Swahili being adopted as a Black American Language, will inevitably lead to British and Canadian Blacks accepting it as well. Once it is realized that Non-African Blacks in the world speak Swahli in large numbers, the middle and upper classes in Africa will begin to learn it as well, if they don't already know it. This will make it all much easier for Swahli-speaking Americans to go to Africa, without needing translators to follow them around everywhere. Africa desperately needs teachers and other professionals right now. You cannot do these jobs being dependent on English, unless you want to force a colonizer language on the African people. I am sure they wuold much rather adopt Swahli.
To White people, it sends the message that we are organizing. We demand our own co-official language. If Hispanics and Asians can get special treatment and teachers that teach not only Spanish but Latino culture, then so too should we have teachers to teach us Swahili and African culture. Come to think of it, Organizing does not quite cover it. Awakening is more like it.
To Black people, it is the coolest shit ever. Like i explained, it is a relatively easy language to learn, and will have a lot of overlappings with English, yet it IS an African language and SOUNDS like one as well. This could send a bigger message here too. If Blacks start to talk to each other strictly in Swahili, but everyone else in English.....that is a powerful message. White people in Swahli classes would be looked at funny, because there would be no real use for it other than to talk to Black people, and even then, you wouldn't know if they would talk it back to you. --- How is that not one of the most potentially hilarious things you've read about? --- Rapping, Talking, Bullshitting, on the Basketball court. Fuck the N-Word specifically--we could replace that with the whole Swahli language.
Just imagine some white dude walking up to you 10 years from now, and saying "What's up, Bro?" in Swahili. I'd be laughing like crazy at this foolish person.
Not to mention the crazy potential that would exist at being able to dump literally thousands of new words into Black movies, Black rap songs, Black slang, Black business and everything else. It would be our special new thing, that we just up and decided to go for. And nobody would be able to take that away from us.
I don't know about you all, but I'm not learning Swahili for me. Inshallah, if i ever have kids, they will all be raised speaking Swahili at home. Which means I need to get on my job more sooner than later.
Black on Black violence though...heh heh...no clue. But Swahili is a good start. Instead of US vs US, embracing Swahili will officially make it US vs THEM.
^IS THAT YOUR ANSWER TO EVERYTHANg?
BUT BLAK ON BLAK BEEN THERE AND MUTHA-FUKAS DIE YOUNg. BUT YOU HAVE OUTLOOKS FROM DIFFERENT FOLK. IT'S FUCCED UP WHEN SHIT HITS THE FAN, BUT IT'S THAT OLD DIVISION BULLSHIT AND AT THE END IT'S ALL FO' SELF. gREED, ENVY, LAK OF TRUST, AND THE LIST gOES ON. WE JUST LIVIN' IN THE LAST DAYS. THE SHIT WAS PREDICTED.
BUT BLAK ON BLAK BEEN THERE AND MUTHA-FUKAS DIE YOUNg. BUT YOU HAVE OUTLOOKS FROM DIFFERENT FOLK. IT'S FUCCED UP WHEN SHIT HITS THE FAN, BUT IT'S THAT OLD DIVISION BULLSHIT AND AT THE END IT'S ALL FO' SELF. gREED, ENVY, LAK OF TRUST, AND THE LIST gOES ON. WE JUST LIVIN' IN THE LAST DAYS. THE SHIT WAS PREDICTED.
And when do you think this is going to happen? I've read that the only country in Africa with Swahilli as their official language is Tanzania and that a lot of other countries in Africa want to maintain French and English as official language
This matter of mode of expression arises more generally in Africa over the question of national language. There is an overwhelming desire to have a national tongue native to the land, but the practicalities appear to be insuperable. While Tanzania has established Swahili as her official language, others have been obliged to settle for French or English, in order that their people may communicate with one another and all with the world beyond. In fact, this may be a most appropriate development since the search for an African identity is made precisely so that Africa can knit herself more tightly into the world community. When the Nigerian playwright, Wole Soyinka, says he wants to be a good writer, not a good African writer, he is expressing what is in the mind of every African. For Africa has indeed become part of the modem world. Source (on page2)
Like above. some countries rather speak English or French
This is just pure racism, and making the gap between black and white people even bigger. I am not saying that we are on the right track now but this is just dividing of people
If you read up on history you see that europeans did manage to take away the language and culture of many africans and if something happen once it can happen again. And you will have to get millions of people motivated to learn it who live outside of Africa. I don't see that happening (not in my life time anyway)
A good initiative to raise your kids multi langua, but then again I don't think they will put Swahili to a good use unless you ship your kids to Tanzania
why is it only that black on black violance needs to stop? why not all violance? because the black race isn't the only race that is sometime violance against another black. white, latino, asian have the same problems. As long as we are being ruled over by the greedy goverments we will remain haveing these problems
This matter of mode of expression arises more generally in Africa over the question of national language. There is an overwhelming desire to have a national tongue native to the land, but the practicalities appear to be insuperable. While Tanzania has established Swahili as her official language, others have been obliged to settle for French or English, in order that their people may communicate with one another and all with the world beyond. In fact, this may be a most appropriate development since the search for an African identity is made precisely so that Africa can knit herself more tightly into the world community. When the Nigerian playwright, Wole Soyinka, says he wants to be a good writer, not a good African writer, he is expressing what is in the mind of every African. For Africa has indeed become part of the modem world. Source (on page2)
Like above. some countries rather speak English or French
This is just pure racism, and making the gap between black and white people even bigger. I am not saying that we are on the right track now but this is just dividing of people
If you read up on history you see that europeans did manage to take away the language and culture of many africans and if something happen once it can happen again. And you will have to get millions of people motivated to learn it who live outside of Africa. I don't see that happening (not in my life time anyway)
A good initiative to raise your kids multi langua, but then again I don't think they will put Swahili to a good use unless you ship your kids to Tanzania
why is it only that black on black violance needs to stop? why not all violance? because the black race isn't the only race that is sometime violance against another black. white, latino, asian have the same problems. As long as we are being ruled over by the greedy goverments we will remain haveing these problems
I have a quick reply to make before I head out to school.
So in your opinion blacks should not be in the police force? So it's best for non blacks to enforce the law on blacks living in urban areas? If you are going to post retarded ass topics and posts PLEASE answer the questions based on your statements.
So in your opinion blacks should not be in the police force? So it's best for non blacks to enforce the law on blacks living in urban areas? If you are going to post retarded ass topics and posts PLEASE answer the questions based on your statements.
They are colonizer languages. You are not saying anything right now.
And maybe if you would stop this "reading" bullshit, and go do some RESEARCH instead, you would realize that Swahili is national or official in Kenya, Rwanda, DR Congo and is spoken in many more than that. That is not just an isolated circumstance--that is a powerful movement.
This is all garbage to me. This man passed decades ago, LONG before Swahili experienced what it is experiencing right now.
Things like these are what matter, things that are happening RIGHT NOW:
http://www.inst.at/trans/11Nr/ogwana11.htm
"The future of Swahili is a question of speculation. The Great Lakes region is still very unstable politically, just as it was in the early sixties. This situation is likely to continue for the next 20 or 30 years. Millions of people will continue to be displaced and this will simply render Swahili more and more indispensable for the survival of the people. But due to the globalization and the already international status of French and English, Swahili will still be a second language among the elite, whose minds are directed towards Washington, London and Paris. The common man will use Swahili more and more, while the rulers will still use English and French. I can see the gradual weakening of the local languages and the gradual growth of Swahili to replace them but not yet to replace the former colonial languages. The end result is likely to be that of a systematic bilingualism of the type Swahili/English, Swahili/French, Swahili/Portuguese, etc."
Do you see me sitting here saying to REPLACE English and French? Fuck no. That would be pure ignorance. The point here is that, if you are going to consider learning a foreign language, Consider SWAHILI. If you are going to consider teaching a language, Consider SWAHILI. If you are a College President considering adding another foreign language to yuor college, Consider SWAHILI.
The demand WILL be created. That much is not open to argument. If i have to do it on my own without the help of Siccness sycophants and ass-kissers and tree-huggers--so the fuck what.
Again...colonizer languages. You ain't saying nothing. This isn't about what is forced upon you; this is about finding a viable median language to learn. I have already explained to you that Niger-Congo is the largest Sub-Saharan Language family, and out of those, which has the largest amount of speakers. Not having the clicks and tones that are hard if not impossible for English speakers to learn..........Swahili is it.
You are sitting here speaking out against Blacks learning Swahili, and for fucks sake, you don't even have a replacement. You are just sitting here hating on the whole idea. You sound like a double-agent to me, taking your orders from the top and being sent around to make sure Black people don't organize in any way, shape or form other than Rap Labels and Sports teams.
No rational man that truly loves Black people would say the things you are saying. I am not proposing some dumbfuck rinky-dink language with 10,000 speakers; I am talking about a language with 80 million people. I am talking about THE MOST WIDELY-SPOKEN AFRICAN LANGUAGE! And you're sitting here about to bug out because you know it might actually work and that you'll lose your secret-agent title.
Don't care. I really don't.
A man wearing a doo rag and baggy jeans walks up to an insurance salesman and says "Pardon me, sir. But do you happen to know what the time is?" -- You are a fucking liar if you say you would not laugh at this if you saw it in the flesh.
If Blacks cannot use Proper English without being called sell-outs and Carltons, then we are going to create our own H-variety that White people are not allowed to use without being ridiculed and labeled as wanna-bes. That is just the bottom line of the matter.
Good for you and your lifetime. You are also a shitty arguer and you are not as e-cool as me.
My point here is, if you `know' one thing about me, know that it is that I don't fuck around. I don't come on here and pretend I love the shit out of Cars, and then hop offline and get someone else to do all my car work for me. I have plans and strategies for this Swahili shit, and pedestrian criticisms alone won't stop me.
That is one way to look at it. The other way is that the Jews revived a completely DEAD Hebrew language, and they now use it on a regular basis to conduct EVERYTHING.
If they can REVIVE one and put it to work, then surely we can BORROW one and make it spectacular.
Governments aren't the problem. All-or-Nothing, infiltrating, traitorous, lethargic, apathetic motherfuckers like YOU are the problem.
If you ain't Black, don't even worry about this topic. In fact, yous itting here not being black and trying to talk people OUT OF IT, is more racist and Anti-Black than just about anything. Black people are here talking about ending violence, and you're sitting here trying to broaden and therefore confuse the scope of the message?
VIOLENCE IS NOT GOING AWAY. EVER. NO 'PLAN' TO END WORLD VIOLENCE EXISTS, OR SHOULD EXIST, BECAUSE IT WILL INEVITABLY FAIL.
Now, if you are black, I feel sorry for you because that makes you even less Black than I am, and I am about as house negro as they come.
Wrong topic to aruge. Go talk about world peace and everyone holding hands in another thread.
And maybe if you would stop this "reading" bullshit, and go do some RESEARCH instead, you would realize that Swahili is national or official in Kenya, Rwanda, DR Congo and is spoken in many more than that. That is not just an isolated circumstance--that is a powerful movement.
This is all garbage to me. This man passed decades ago, LONG before Swahili experienced what it is experiencing right now.
Things like these are what matter, things that are happening RIGHT NOW:
http://www.inst.at/trans/11Nr/ogwana11.htm
"The future of Swahili is a question of speculation. The Great Lakes region is still very unstable politically, just as it was in the early sixties. This situation is likely to continue for the next 20 or 30 years. Millions of people will continue to be displaced and this will simply render Swahili more and more indispensable for the survival of the people. But due to the globalization and the already international status of French and English, Swahili will still be a second language among the elite, whose minds are directed towards Washington, London and Paris. The common man will use Swahili more and more, while the rulers will still use English and French. I can see the gradual weakening of the local languages and the gradual growth of Swahili to replace them but not yet to replace the former colonial languages. The end result is likely to be that of a systematic bilingualism of the type Swahili/English, Swahili/French, Swahili/Portuguese, etc."
Do you see me sitting here saying to REPLACE English and French? Fuck no. That would be pure ignorance. The point here is that, if you are going to consider learning a foreign language, Consider SWAHILI. If you are going to consider teaching a language, Consider SWAHILI. If you are a College President considering adding another foreign language to yuor college, Consider SWAHILI.
The demand WILL be created. That much is not open to argument. If i have to do it on my own without the help of Siccness sycophants and ass-kissers and tree-huggers--so the fuck what.
Again...colonizer languages. You ain't saying nothing. This isn't about what is forced upon you; this is about finding a viable median language to learn. I have already explained to you that Niger-Congo is the largest Sub-Saharan Language family, and out of those, which has the largest amount of speakers. Not having the clicks and tones that are hard if not impossible for English speakers to learn..........Swahili is it.
You are sitting here speaking out against Blacks learning Swahili, and for fucks sake, you don't even have a replacement. You are just sitting here hating on the whole idea. You sound like a double-agent to me, taking your orders from the top and being sent around to make sure Black people don't organize in any way, shape or form other than Rap Labels and Sports teams.
No rational man that truly loves Black people would say the things you are saying. I am not proposing some dumbfuck rinky-dink language with 10,000 speakers; I am talking about a language with 80 million people. I am talking about THE MOST WIDELY-SPOKEN AFRICAN LANGUAGE! And you're sitting here about to bug out because you know it might actually work and that you'll lose your secret-agent title.
Don't care. I really don't.
A man wearing a doo rag and baggy jeans walks up to an insurance salesman and says "Pardon me, sir. But do you happen to know what the time is?" -- You are a fucking liar if you say you would not laugh at this if you saw it in the flesh.
If Blacks cannot use Proper English without being called sell-outs and Carltons, then we are going to create our own H-variety that White people are not allowed to use without being ridiculed and labeled as wanna-bes. That is just the bottom line of the matter.
Good for you and your lifetime. You are also a shitty arguer and you are not as e-cool as me.
My point here is, if you `know' one thing about me, know that it is that I don't fuck around. I don't come on here and pretend I love the shit out of Cars, and then hop offline and get someone else to do all my car work for me. I have plans and strategies for this Swahili shit, and pedestrian criticisms alone won't stop me.
That is one way to look at it. The other way is that the Jews revived a completely DEAD Hebrew language, and they now use it on a regular basis to conduct EVERYTHING.
If they can REVIVE one and put it to work, then surely we can BORROW one and make it spectacular.
Governments aren't the problem. All-or-Nothing, infiltrating, traitorous, lethargic, apathetic motherfuckers like YOU are the problem.
If you ain't Black, don't even worry about this topic. In fact, yous itting here not being black and trying to talk people OUT OF IT, is more racist and Anti-Black than just about anything. Black people are here talking about ending violence, and you're sitting here trying to broaden and therefore confuse the scope of the message?
VIOLENCE IS NOT GOING AWAY. EVER. NO 'PLAN' TO END WORLD VIOLENCE EXISTS, OR SHOULD EXIST, BECAUSE IT WILL INEVITABLY FAIL.
Now, if you are black, I feel sorry for you because that makes you even less Black than I am, and I am about as house negro as they come.
Wrong topic to aruge. Go talk about world peace and everyone holding hands in another thread.
Sounds like something a White man with his unifying English language, or a Latino with his unifying Spanish language would say.
Racism is good.
Categorizing people is the only way to go.
US vs THEM is something to strive for; not back away from.
How many more times must I type out these things before you stop being PC and whiny and non-confrontational?
Equality is a MYTH. Point blank. A MYTH. Equality DOES NOT WORK. Liberty, on the other hand, DOES. The ONLY thing equality is good for is people who want to tread water their ENTIRE LIVES, working at McDonalds or as a Mechanic, and STLL being able to afford the luxury cars and $300,000 houses. The world doesn't work that way, as Cuba, China, Viet Nam and others have proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.
Divorce is the ONLY answer. That doesn't mean restraining orders or calling your ex-spouse filthy insults every time you see them, but it DOES MEAN surviving on your own. And right now, Blacks CANNOT DO THAT. Whites, on the other hand...CAN. Whites have demonstrated for decades and centuries now that the path to 'equality' with them is only going to dribble out in small amounts. It is time that THAT CHANGED!
Racism is good.
Categorizing people is the only way to go.
US vs THEM is something to strive for; not back away from.
How many more times must I type out these things before you stop being PC and whiny and non-confrontational?
Equality is a MYTH. Point blank. A MYTH. Equality DOES NOT WORK. Liberty, on the other hand, DOES. The ONLY thing equality is good for is people who want to tread water their ENTIRE LIVES, working at McDonalds or as a Mechanic, and STLL being able to afford the luxury cars and $300,000 houses. The world doesn't work that way, as Cuba, China, Viet Nam and others have proven time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.
Divorce is the ONLY answer. That doesn't mean restraining orders or calling your ex-spouse filthy insults every time you see them, but it DOES MEAN surviving on your own. And right now, Blacks CANNOT DO THAT. Whites, on the other hand...CAN. Whites have demonstrated for decades and centuries now that the path to 'equality' with them is only going to dribble out in small amounts. It is time that THAT CHANGED!
Both sides have good points imo.
What I want to know from Dirty is, how will learning Swahili reduce black on black crime? Can you provide me with any stats or readings showing crime rate reduction when the language is in use? I understand it will give blacks a "common bond" but don't we have a common bond in the fact that we are black? "Well, some of us are lighter" and that may be true, but not all afrikans come from the places Swahili is dominant nor do all afrikans hold the same culture and beliefs. What about the people who do have different languages and cultures? How do they fit in should they simply forsake the culture, langauge and beliefs they hold?
Another thing I would like to know is, what is your plan for keeping this amongst black people? How would/should one go about doing this? I can already see some negro, cooning and revealing every aspect of the language to massah just for a beer or pack of cigs. Also I would like to say your point about the Jews are off in some areas. The majority of "jews" (everyone here basically knows my position on "jews") speak ENGLISH. Modern Hebrew is the language widely spoken now but biblical/old hebrew was NEVER completely DEAD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_languages
@ Iaoish you said:
What I take from Dirtys position is the language is the most widely used in Africa, and it has a growth potential that warrants the learning of the language. If this is his position I agree with him, but how does that help blacks living in america and rising use of spanish languages here?
It would be good if all violence was eliminated, but we are discussing black on black violence. The other races you mentioned do have problems, but they also network with each other and have stronger family values (imo) than blacks. Would you agree that the black race has more problems than any other race? If not what is your take on black unemployment, blacks and teen pregnancy, blacks and hiv/aids and blacks in the prison system?
What I want to know from Dirty is, how will learning Swahili reduce black on black crime? Can you provide me with any stats or readings showing crime rate reduction when the language is in use? I understand it will give blacks a "common bond" but don't we have a common bond in the fact that we are black? "Well, some of us are lighter" and that may be true, but not all afrikans come from the places Swahili is dominant nor do all afrikans hold the same culture and beliefs. What about the people who do have different languages and cultures? How do they fit in should they simply forsake the culture, langauge and beliefs they hold?
Another thing I would like to know is, what is your plan for keeping this amongst black people? How would/should one go about doing this? I can already see some negro, cooning and revealing every aspect of the language to massah just for a beer or pack of cigs. Also I would like to say your point about the Jews are off in some areas. The majority of "jews" (everyone here basically knows my position on "jews") speak ENGLISH. Modern Hebrew is the language widely spoken now but biblical/old hebrew was NEVER completely DEAD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_languages
@ Iaoish you said:
What I take from Dirtys position is the language is the most widely used in Africa, and it has a growth potential that warrants the learning of the language. If this is his position I agree with him, but how does that help blacks living in america and rising use of spanish languages here?
It would be good if all violence was eliminated, but we are discussing black on black violence. The other races you mentioned do have problems, but they also network with each other and have stronger family values (imo) than blacks. Would you agree that the black race has more problems than any other race? If not what is your take on black unemployment, blacks and teen pregnancy, blacks and hiv/aids and blacks in the prison system?
