BEING PATRIOTIC

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What do you think being patriotic is? Is it following the country into anything even if you dont agree with it? Just "riding till you die" out of loyalty and because you love it. Or is being patriotic speeking out against the government when you dont agree with some of their policies.

Ive noticed recently that people all over the country are so quick to label someone anti-american when you speak out against the governmet. But doesnt exercising your right to speak out, make you a better American. Leaders need to be questioned, they need to have people put pressure on them and make them at least think harder about what their doing. Without people speeking out America is doomed. (If its not doomed already)

We need countrys like N. Korea to help keep us in check. And they need us to help keep them in check. Good needs evil. If it wasnt for a signifigant threat like N. Korea who knows what Bush would have done by now. And without the US who knows what N. Korea would have done by now. Neither of us (hopefully) are gonna do shit because if we do, were both majorly fucked. There simply cannot be one super power. When your high up, your just setting yourself up for the biggest fall.
 
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What do you think being patriotic is? Is it following the country into anything even if you dont agree with it? Just "riding till you die" out of loyalty and because you love it.

I am about that.

at the same time I do not disrepsect anyone who questions what the government is doing...
 

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IM NOT A BLIND FOOL......WHY RUSH INTO SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOWING IF ITS WISE????
Or is being patriotic speeking out against the government when you dont agree with some of their policies.
THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE....HOWEVER ITS THE OTHER ONE.....
Is it following the country into anything even if you dont agree with it? Just "riding till you die" out of loyalty and because you love it.
A CLOSED MOUTH DOESNT GET FED.....IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH SOMETHING SAY SO......


"YOU GOTTA TALK FO RYOURS OR GET NUTHIN AT ALL"~TOO $HORT


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Re: Re: BEING PATRIOTIC

BaSICCally said:



I am about that.

at the same time I do not disrepsect anyone who questions what the government is doing...
I just dont understand how people can do or listen to whatever the government says even if they dont agree with it.

Besides the government, do you let your friends/family or anyone else make decisions for you?
 
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Too many Americans got the idea of patriotism twisted. They think staying loyal to the governments decisions no matter what is being patriotic. Thats actually the attitude of a dictatorship. REAL patriots are the people who live by the ideals that America is based on...the freedom to SPEAK OUT out against those who run the country when you think they are wrong. Thats what makes this country great...but all these so called "patriots" call us traitors or peaceniks because we are real Americans who stand up against our leaders when we disagree with them.
 
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Patriotic is Loving and Doing ANYTHING to make your Country better.
We can Agree on that.

Am I Patriotic? Yes. I support Our troops fully for going over there and am just waiting for my Go. Whether folks like it or not, We are not starting a new Battle, We are finishing a war fom last Decade.
Do I agree with everything the gov says? NO! Being Patriotic is also Speaking up to Defend our rights, freedoms and way of life that was ment when the Constitution was formed.
Are you? If so How?
 
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I am not a fan of the U.S. government I think there is major corruption within' it, however I believe in this War on Terror and the proposed war with Iraq. In a time like this it is important 2 weigh the good and the bad, and I think overall this war will be a cleansin' of the middle east, so that the Iraqi people can chose their own leader. If its over oil it wouldn't happen, I'm sicc of all these people sayin' that, as I said be4, that might be part of it, but that ain't the whole enchilada. Speak out about the Government all U want, but don't high side, cause were U claim people who R 4 the war R callin' the folks that want peace Anti-American, y'all call people like me who agree with it, Government clones and shit. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
 

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^^^^ i have several questions for you since you believe in this war and support it.

1.where did iraq get these weapons of mass destruction?

2.are you familiar with ARBUSTO ENERGY and its INVESTORS?

3.are you familiar with the CARLYLE CORP (YES I KNOW ITS SPELLED WITH A K)?

4.On what grounds can the united states LEGALLY attack iraq???


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HERESY said:
^^^^ i have several questions for you since you believe in this war and support it.

1.where did iraq get these weapons of mass destruction?

2.are you familiar with ARBUSTO ENERGY and its INVESTORS?

3.are you familiar with the CARLYLE CORP (YES I KNOW ITS SPELLED WITH A K)?

4.On what grounds can the united states LEGALLY attack iraq???


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1. Who the fucc knows, the black market, terrorist groups, that have millions of dollers 2 transport nuclear material form the former soviet union, I can't say. But I'm sure you'll tell me.

2. No I am not familer with Arbusto Energy, but I'm gonna asume that it has 2 do with oil, and some how the Presidents constituents R connected 2 it.

3. No I am not. See above#2.

4. Thats why we R goin' thru the process of tryin' 2 get United Nations baccing, 2 try and get a greater support 4 the attack, but tell me Who ever has a legal right 2 invade a country, under what countries law...the United Nations, I think that that is here nor there. A bunch of sucker ass nations 2gether tryin' 2 get power cause their individual countries R 2 weak alone, don't have a right 2 say whats right or wrong. But when Saddam attacks one of their countries, they'll be very quicc 2 come askin' 4 our military power. I don't care about the Oil thing, partna, why don't U look past that, and see what else this war is about. Even if its 2 keep us a world power 4 a little longer, I 4 one will not complain. Just wait and see when were no longer the world power.
 

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1. Who the fucc knows, the black market, terrorist groups, that have millions of dollers 2 transport nuclear material form the former soviet union, I can't say. But I'm sure you'll tell me.
IRAN-IRAQ WAR. PLEASE LOOK INTO IT.
2. No I am not familer with Arbusto Energy, but I'm gonna asume that it has 2 do with oil, and some how the Presidents constituents R connected 2 it.
ARBUSTO ENERGY IS A BUSH OWNED COMPANY. ONE OF ITS INVESTORS INCLUDE THE BROTHER OF *ALLEGED* TERRORIST USAMA BIN LADEN.
3. No I am not. See above#2.
I SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO IT. LARGE SUMS OF MONEY WERE TRANSFERRED BACK AND FOURTH FROM THE BUSH AND BIN LADEN ACCOUNTS JUST PRIOR TO 9-11.
4. Thats why we R goin' thru the process of tryin' 2 get United Nations baccing, 2 try and get a greater support 4 the attack,
INTERESTING.
but tell me Who ever has a legal right 2 invade a country, under what countries law...the United Nations
MORALLY WHAT GROUNDS DOES THE US HAVE TO ATTACK IRAQ WHEN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF MILLIONS OF AFRICANS AND NATIVES OVER THE PAST 500 YEARS?
A bunch of sucker ass nations 2gether tryin' 2 get power cause their individual countries R 2 weak alone, don't have a right 2 say whats right or wrong.
ACTUALLY THEY COME TOGETHER FOR A GLOBALISTIC AGENDA.
But when Saddam attacks one of their countries, they'll be very quicc 2 come askin' 4 our military power.
DEPENDS ON THE COUNTRY.
I don't care about the Oil thing, partna, why don't U look past that, and see what else this war is about.
THIS WAR IS WAGED TO IMPLEMENT A GLOBALISTIC AGENDA. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME AND TELL ME WHAT ELSE THIS WAR IS ABOUT.
Even if its 2 keep us a world power 4 a little longer, I 4 one will not complain.
INTERESTING.
Just wait and see when were no longer the world power.
AMERICA IS **NOT** THE WORLD POWER RIGHT NOW.

THE REVIVED HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE IS THE WORLD POWER.

BILDERBERGERS

COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

JESUIT ORDER

TRILATERAL COMMISION

WORLD CONSERVATION BANK

PRIORY OF SION

KNIGHTS OF MALTA

SKULL AND BONES

CLUB OF ROME


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I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final work in reality...I have the audicity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality, and freedom for their spirits. I believe that what self-centered men have torn down, men other-centered can build up...I still believe that we shal overcome.

-Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

If this is not the American Dream then I do not know what is. If this is not patriotic...then please give me a better example.

Only in the United States of America is this posible...
 

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LOL!!!!!! WHO SAID THAT I THINK IM SO SMART? IM GLAD THAT YOU FEEL THAT WAY ABOUT ME AND I ACCEPT THE COMPLIMENT.

LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

IS IT LOGICAL TO BLINDLY ACCEPT SOMETHING AS TRUTH? OR IS IT LOGICAL TO GATHER INFO AND COME TO YOUR ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE INFO?
solve all the worlds problems.
WHO MADE ME YOUR SAVIOUR?????????


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I ain't blindly acceptin' nothin' but who's 2 say that all the Information that U gather is correct or not slanted towards one political veiw or another. I'd like 2 see where all your info comes from, who writes it. Thats right mutha fucka U ain't nobodies savior cause U can't even save yourself. U R 2 self rightoeus 4 your own good. U think U the smartest cat that got all the RIGHT information and the rest of us aren't as informed as U. That wuzn't a compliment.
 

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I ain't blindly acceptin' nothin'
THATS GREAT!! SO TELL ME WHY AMERICA SHOULD GO TO WAR WITH IRAQ.
but who's 2 say that all the Information that U gather is correct or not slanted towards one political veiw or another.
I REPEAT IS IT LOGICAL TO BLINDLY ACCEPT SOMETHING AS TRUTH? OR IS IT LOGICAL TO GATHER INFO AND COME TO YOUR ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE INFO?
I'd like 2 see where all your info comes from, who writes it.
MANY SOURCES. HOWEVER I TEND TO STAY FAR AWAY FROM MEDIA SOURCES THAT ARE GOVERNED BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND OWNED BY THE GLOBAL ELITE.
Thats right mutha fucka U ain't nobodies savior cause U can't even save yourself.
SINCE YOU KNOW THIS WHY WOULD YOU TELL ME TO SOLVE THE WORLDS PROBLEMS???? YOU ARE RIGHT I CANT SAVE MYSELF. WHICH IS WHY I SEEK A HIGHER.
U R 2 self rightoeus 4 your own good.
YOUR CUSSING ME OUT BECAUSE OF MY VIEWS....WHO'S WORSE???? YOU FEEL IM SELF RIGHTEOUS. THATS HOW YOU SEE ME. MAYBE THATS WHAT YOU REALLY ARE?!?
U think U the smartest cat that got all the RIGHT information
IF THIS WAS THE CASE I WOULD TELL PEOPLE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT AND **NOT** RESEARCH IT. OUT OF EVERYONE ON THE SICCNESS IM PROBABLY THE #1 PERSON TELLING PEOPLE TO READ/RESEARCH FOR THEMSELVES.

NO I DONT THINK THAT IM THE SMARTEST CAT....WHAT I THINK IS THAT AT THIS TIME YOU'RE AN IDIOT.....THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.....
and the rest of us aren't as informed as U.
YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU ARE NOT. DONT TRY TO TOSS ANYONE ELSE IN THIS. SINCE YOU ARE NOT INFORMED AS ME (PROOF OF THIS IS IN YOUR FOUR ANSWERS) I SUGGEST YOU GET SOME GAME....BUY IT..STEAL IT....BORROW IT.....WHATEVER.....BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHATS GOING ON......INSTEAD OF ARGUING WITH ME AND MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF (YOUR EASY TO MANIPULATE) YOU NEED TO BE EDUCATING YOURSELF.
That wuzn't a compliment.
I WASNT LOOKING FOR A COMPLIMENT FROM YOU.....WHY WOULD I?????


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Are you here to Open my eyes? Or are you trying to force feed me stuff like you say the Gov does....


Can you say double standard?

Cause we agree with the war makes you better somehow than us? Ya in your Twisted Neo communist dreams.

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HERESY said:
I SUGGEST YOU GET SOME GAME....BUY IT..STEAL IT....BORROW IT.....WHATEVER.....BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHATS GOING ON......INSTEAD OF ARGUING WITH ME AND MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF (YOUR EASY TO MANIPULATE).
Mutha fucka U must be krazy, U done twisted everythang I said and couldn't even sticc with your original facts. Obviously U don't know what game is partna, cause U ain't got it. Now take your head out of your ass and stop actin' a fool. Your right I don't know as much on the subject as U claim 2 know, however that hasn't been my stance on the subject. U on the other hand claim this and that, and then play games. I don't care if U have an opinion, I'm not cussin' nobody out, Bottom line homie is If U didn't Vote, then U have no right 2 complain about Bush, or anything else that true Americans vote 4. U R one of those cats that R so Deep in the Conspiracy shit that your judgement and opinion has been clouded. If anything you've done nothing 2 make your case, instead U stand up on your potium and call those of us who believe in our country, Blind and we don't see this "Truth" that U been claimin'.

U can't be reached with common sense, so like I said when U Vote, then come talk 2 me, and if were such big killers and murderers....move out of the country 2 France cause thats were folks like U belong, with the self righteous pussies. If anybodies been manipulated or exposed it was U thats Real Bay Spit, where Game was invented.