Bayview Hunters Point - Prop G E-mail

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Got this e-mail last night. Probably not the right forum but thought I'd throw it up anyway. I live down in San Diego and don't know much about it so not sure if they are really trying to help the area and it's people or if it's an early stage gentrification by the city. Here it is:

MAYOR GAVIN NEWSOM


Dear Fellow San Franciscans,

This June 3, we have an extraordinary opportunity to help the Bayview Hunters Point neighborhood, create 8,000 jobs, 300 acres of parks, and thousands of units of family housing.

After years of planning and review there is a neighborhood-backed plan on the June ballot called Proposition G. This measure deserves our strongest support.

Proposition G has earned the enthusiastic endorsement of the neighborhood supervisor, Sophie Maxwell, as well as Dianne Feinstein, Phil Ting, Jose Cisneros, Bevan Dufty, Michela Alioto-Pier, both the Democratic and Republican Parties, the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club, SPUR, the Asian American Democratic Club and scores of other community groups and thousands of individual San Franciscans.

Particularly in these tough economic times, it is important to remember that Proposition G will bring literally billions of dollars in economic activity. Proposition G means thousands of high-wage jobs. It will generate millions in new tax revenues. And Proposition G will provide much-needed support for our public schools.

Beyond promoting the economic health of our entire city, Proposition G will help fund and speed up the environmental clean up of the Hunters Point Shipyard. This will promote a healthier neighborhood and a healthier San Francisco.

I hope you will join me right now in endorsing Proposition G to create jobs, parks and housing for the neighborhood and for all of San Francisco.

If you would like to learn more, please visit www.cleanuptheshipyard.com. If you are still undecided, please read the facts for yourself. The numbers tell the story that this is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to transform the abandoned Hunters Point shipyard and help revitalize our economy.

And if you would like to show your support – please join me at a campaign kick-off for Proposition G tomorrow, Saturday, April 26 at the Marketplace Fellowship Church at 11:00 AM. The Church is at 860 Innes Avenue at Earl Street.

I hope you will join the campaign for Proposition G. Our neighbors in the Bayview Hunters Point need our help to pass this plan. And the entire city needs the jobs, parks and housing this measure will bring.

Sincerely,




Mayor Gavin Newsom






Lennar Homes of California, Inc., 49 Stevenson Street, Suite 600, San Francisco, CA 94105
 
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I just came from the weekly NOI meeting and we discussed this......

Basically man , the naval ship yard will NOT BE CLEANED UP , JUST BUILT ON TOP OF.
Lennar Corp. , which is headed by Nancy Pelosi's nephew Lawrence , will only give a small portion of the work to the community , and the rest will go to their own staff.

The low income housing is true , but it is not all of parcel a. They are doing this to pacify the people. They are not following EPA safety hazard standards for these homes. The only real safe places will be the million dollar condo area farther towards the water , not the ones near the community on the hill over by the school off kiska road. This area is where poor blacks , whites , latino asian and samoans live.

Chris Carter , a local resident, was employed by the company that Lennar corp subcontracted the work with , and blew the whistle on the whole thing , so they fired him. Gavin is up against the wall. If G doesn't pass , Lennar will not continue , and he will lose the niners. Both of this is a direct threat to his term and HIS POCKETS. So of course he's gonna ride hard.

If you come to the bay , we have weekly meetings and a townhall meeting on Oakdale and Inglis at the church to help push PROP F , which is the agenda that benifits the residents at risk of being left out of this "opportunity".

I'll get the email info on PROP F. and post it in a few brother..
 
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when we lived on the hill...the people who lived more towards the shipyard would drive their cars hella fast to get to their houses...when they went to Big Bobs they wouldn't say Hello to anyone on the way in...always walked across the street to avoid walking by people...

now SFHA is selling Hunters View(west point) to pay a settlement where they owe a family 13million dollars for a fire that killed the whole family in 1997...they still haven't given the family one cent...so Hunters View will be no longer very soon, they're trying to get the rights to sell it through HUD right now
 
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when we lived on the hill...the people who lived more towards the shipyard would drive their cars hella fast to get to their houses...when they went to Big Bobs they wouldn't say Hello to anyone on the way in...always walked across the street to avoid walking by people...

now SFHA is selling Hunters View(west point) to pay a settlement where they owe a family 13million dollars for a fire that killed the whole family in 1997...they still haven't given the family one cent...so Hunters View will be no longer very soon, they're trying to get the rights to sell it through HUD right now
That is the only reason outsiders are frowned upon when they move over here, for the most part, they don't want to be a part of the community. By the way they act, you can tell they are just waiting for all the niggaz to leave.

I don't see how new housing in the shipyard is gonna benefit anyone that is already here. We don't have a homelessness problem here, we have a problem with black flight on the middle class end and substandard housing for poorer folks. If you are trying to preserve the character of the neighborhood by offering this new housing to those that are already here thats one thing. But if you are building housing for rich people to move in it is no benefit to the current hood.
 
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they been tryna take over that part of frisco for years. bein that hp got one of the nicest views in sf and overlookin the bay, they tryna change it up and profit off that view. aren't they suppose to build a mall over on the shipyard too? i won't be goin over there, the shits gonna be contaminated.
 
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I just came from the weekly NOI meeting and we discussed this......

Basically man , the naval ship yard will NOT BE CLEANED UP , JUST BUILT ON TOP OF.
Lennar Corp. , which is headed by Nancy Pelosi's nephew Lawrence , will only give a small portion of the work to the community , and the rest will go to their own staff.
that's fucked up that they gonna build houses over that dirty ass land so more people can get sick and get cancer and shit. i heard hp has one of the most highest cancer rates in the country period. that's bullshit. so pretty much they gonna do what they did to midway village back in the 70's and build over the shit. if anyone knows about midway village, they know the land is heavily contaminated over there and i know people who got sick over there including kids comin up wit cancer and other stuff thru the water that's polluted out there. very terrible. and yet still they payin rent for livin on somethin that can eventually kill them.
 
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yeah Bayshore(midway village)is hella contaminated

THEY CAN NOT CLEAN UP THE SHIPYARD, that stuff will always be there, they can clean it more, which they will...but lets see how those rich people like waking up every day and wiping the black shit off the windows, only for it to be there again the next morning
 
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^^^^^for real, besides havin one of the best views in san francisco and in the bay, i don't see how the property value could be raised bein that there's health risk on the hunters point hill and in hunters point period for that matter. hp got the shipyard, they got pg&e, and some other stuff in the surroundin that is really not good for anyone to be livin in.


yea i never step foot in midway village just because its that bad. back when it was a real big thing in like 2000, i remember hearin about people havin to boil their water before use and i heard about this big hole that was dug up in the middle of the complex that kids were playin around that were releasin toxins in the air. man, all those kids over there are gonna grow up wit serious health problems. there's females out there that had birth defects. the same thing happened in hp too.
 

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That is the only reason outsiders are frowned upon when they move over here, for the most part, they don't want to be a part of the community. By the way they act, you can tell they are just waiting for all the niggaz to leave.

I don't see how new housing in the shipyard is gonna benefit anyone that is already here. We don't have a homelessness problem here, we have a problem with black flight on the middle class end and substandard housing for poorer folks. If you are trying to preserve the character of the neighborhood by offering this new housing to those that are already here thats one thing. But if you are building housing for rich people to move in it is no benefit to the current hood.

I Agree If It's Not Benefiting The People Already Here.. When I Moved My Son Out Of H.P his asthma went away and aint came back.....

 
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I Agree If It's Not Benefiting The People Already Here.. When I Moved My Son Out Of H.P his asthma went away and aint came back.....
that's good your son is doin better. i had a question to you since i kno you from out there, do you think half the people who live out there kno anything or even care about what's goin on environmentally over there? wit the health problems and all that?

i ain't tryna sound stupid or nothin i'm just curious because i always hear about the problems over there wit the environment.
 

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that's good your son is doin better. i had a question to you since i kno you from out there, do you think half the people who live out there kno anything or even care about what's goin on environmentally over there? wit the health problems and all that?

i ain't tryna sound stupid or nothin i'm just curious because i always hear about the problems over there wit the environment.

Yeah They No, Specially The Older People,,, I think Most Of The People Care But They Just Dont Have The Personal Resorces To Relocate Some Where Other Than That Part Of The City,, I Even Moved My Mother Off The Hill And She Had Real Bad Health Problems, Some Breathing Diffuculty She Now Lives In Florida And Feeling About 10 years Younger,,, Another Thing Is It's Kinda A Double Edge Sword Thing Goin On Over There Even Though They Anounce How Bad Enviromental Conditions Are Even On The News, But Yet In Still Theres No Emergency To Move People From The Area So That Kinda Says 2 The People Who Live There That It's O.K 2 Be There... I Personally Think It Will Never Be Taken All The Way Serious Until Public Housing No Longer Exsist In Hunters Point .....
 
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Still waiting on the Prop F info , if anyone else has it , you should post it.

My email on it is supposed to have some key details , I'm just holding out in good faith it will come today.

Pardon the wait. I'm lovin' the responses to this thread though.
 
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I Agree If It's Not Benefiting The People Already Here.. When I Moved My Son Out Of H.P his asthma went away and aint came back.....
That's a trip aint it?. Everytime I go to the mosque or a meeting , I always leave the point weezing and out of breath for no reason. My homie from kirkwood has to do controlled breathing just to go to sleep at night. It's deep.
 
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Lennar's Hunters Point Shipyard safe for re-development?

Proposition G has earned the enthusiastic endorsement of the neighborhood supervisor, Sophie Maxwell, as well as Dianne Feinstein, Phil Ting, Jose Cisneros, Bevan Dufty, Michela Alioto-Pier, both the Democratic and Republican Parties, the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club, SPUR, the Asian American Democratic Club and scores of other community groups and thousands of individual San Franciscans.
Interesting group ...

the video below is of Rev. Arelious Walker who is For the Redevolpment and the argument that Current Construction Does Not Cause any long term health risk..And the Hope of a New Oasis of Money and oppurtunity in the San Franciscos south east district...
Pastor George Lee of Bayview's Shilo Church


sopranos/hud storyline

The sopranos touched on this type of bussiness with where the money from the bids and new contracts ended up going.
 
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Yeah They No, Specially The Older People,,, I think Most Of The People Care But They Just Dont Have The Personal Resorces To Relocate Some Where Other Than That Part Of The City,, I Even Moved My Mother Off The Hill And She Had Real Bad Health Problems, Some Breathing Diffuculty She Now Lives In Florida And Feeling About 10 years Younger,,, Another Thing Is It's Kinda A Double Edge Sword Thing Goin On Over There Even Though They Anounce How Bad Enviromental Conditions Are Even On The News, But Yet In Still Theres No Emergency To Move People From The Area So That Kinda Says 2 The People Who Live There That It's O.K 2 Be There... I Personally Think It Will Never Be Taken All The Way Serious Until Public Housing No Longer Exsist In Hunters Point .....
yea see that's bullshit, that's the same shit they were dealing with in midway village. not sure if you are familiar with midway village but they have it bad over there till this day. i agree, when public housing doesn't exist in hp, that's when they gon boot all the original families up outta there and make it all fancy for the rich folks to move into, rebuild shit which they already did up there in certain parts at the top if i'm not mistaken. and they'll probably throw hella money into cleanin the shipyard and bullshit like that. much love sv.
 
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That's a trip aint it?. Everytime I go to the mosque or a meeting , I always leave the point weezing and out of breath for no reason. My homie from kirkwood has to do controlled breathing just to go to sleep at night. It's deep.
man, that's horrible