What about EPA? They were the murder capital, and Berkeley is home to the most famous campus on the West Coast.. You niggas is on some rap shit, take away rap and Vallejo ain't no factor city, just another small ass hick town that could be compared to Fairfield. Statistically, Pittsburg is harder than Vallejo. Ya'll put too much on these rappers blowin up their cities, as if Vallejo is any different from Berkeley, Pittsburg, or East Palo Alto as far as impact and fame. To be honest, as far as nationally, the "factor" cities really are just Frisco and Oakland, maybe San Jose. A lot of people don't know what Vallejo and Richmond are, you say Richmond and most motha fuckas will think Virginia, even though we know that Richmond is the most dangerous city in cali, well last year it was, but the rest of the nation doesn't know that. So excluding all of the other cities is just dumb. Nationally nothing should be brought up except Oakland and San Fran if you wanna put it like that, but that ain't what the threadstarter asked.