Bay Area Rappers - Success and Failures

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Master P? Bay Area rapper? More like thief. And didn't he file for bankruptcy at one point? Yeah he doesn't have to to work cause he livin off lil Romeo.
No Limit Records went broke but Master P is still worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

I worked in business collections for a long ass time and see individuals part ways with their dying business and remained caked up as individuals all the time.
 
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P filed for bankruptcy to avoid lawsuits from previous no limit soldiers. He still got bread. Don't know how he convinced each person on his label in the 90s to give him 100% publishing.
But u r right he is not a bay area rapper. He came to the bay and soaked game and took the game he learned back to new orleans and the rest is history.
along with them lawsuits, his momma house and his own house got foreclosed and he owed millions in state and federal tax and all his business ventures went up in smoke. dude money dwindled, dude had over a decade of no hits, lavish lifestyle and bad business ventures and a whole 'nother secret family that got exposed when his daughter cymphonique got on. he aitn sitting on no major money no more
 
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JT The Bigga Figga? How would y'all rate his success? Had a major deal and was on BET and in magazines etc... nowadays, you'd be hard pressed to find someone that's heard of him outside of Cali and KC.

Baby Bash/Beesh?

Jay Tee/N2Deep?

Messy Marv?
 

Coach E. No

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Yeah, Mc Hammer is "broke" yet has more money than anyone I know I'm sure. I met him years ago. Dude had on a ring that was worth more than all my possessions at the time.
 
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I'd say Beesh is definatly a success story, he has gold records within the past 10 years, he tours, he has videos, I'm sure he's got his shit together.

Jay Tee tha bigga figga made a million off of Game's underground CD so I'm sure he's doing okay for a while. Also factor in his book and other rap ventures.

Playa Jay Tee still releasing videos he seems to have a nice house and cars but he could also be selling dope haha
 
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I wouldnt call them failures at all. Just didnt get nationally famous and its not even their fault for the most part but it doesnt mean they are failures. They are famous in the bay and got money off of that which isnt easy.
 
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Success and failure are different for everybody. If your goal is to sell a million records and you sell 10,000, but you're caked up off shows and other shit, you're a failure. You set out to do something and you didn't meet that goal. Doesn't matter if you have a million dollars or not. That's how I see it, anyway.

You don't see me on MTV/BET or hear me on the radio, or see me doing shows for that matter. My goal was to do something and have money coming in years after I did it, buy a crib, take care of a child in the future, and get a job that trumps rap money. All 3 goals accomplished...so in my mind I'm successful.
 
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Its hard for bay artists to succeed in the mainstream audience I've tried turning people onto the jacka, messy marv San Quinn, Mac Dre,people just don't appreciate it. Bay music will always be slept on overall but that doesn't mean bay artists are failures.
 
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in 3 years living in atlanta $2,000,000 made. 6000 sqr feet house paid for 2012 Porsche Panamera 2009 drop Bently and the wife 2011 escalade and 2009 sl 550 all paid for. 5 bedroom house for studio work and officework paid for. all new studio equipment and film production equipment all paid for. God is good and life for me is way bigger than the bay.
shot out to all yall who believed and supported my push....even the haters .....CAN YOU SEE ME KNOW LOL. success aint money success is seeing it and doin it win lose or draw.
 

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I find it extremely hard to believe that JT has made 2 million in 3 years. Off of what? Sold records? Obviously no. Shows? Is he really that popular in Atlanta which is the most oversaturated market right now? I doubt it. Production? I haven't noticed him doing much of that either, certainly no major hits that would generate that kind of revenue. Then how? It just does not make any sense.
 
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Success and failure are different for everybody. If your goal is to sell a million records and you sell 10,000, but you're caked up off shows and other shit, you're a failure. You set out to do something and you didn't meet that goal. Doesn't matter if you have a million dollars or not. That's how I see it, anyway.

You don't see me on MTV/BET or hear me on the radio, or see me doing shows for that matter. My goal was to do something and have money coming in years after I did it, buy a crib, take care of a child in the future, and get a job that trumps rap money. All 3 goals accomplished...so in my mind I'm successful.
I am just a fan and very far removed from the music business but it seems to me that leaving it worse off than you entered it is the logical conclusion of a rap career, even if you manage to achieve some success in purely musical terms.

The pressure to live the imaginary lifestyle portrayed in the music is great, and unless you are prepared to resist that pressure and be very smart about managing your money, you will be left with nothing in the end. And you will be left with little in terms of skills that would allow to make a living in real life.

So if you enter the game with the goal of making money, you will almost certainly fail. Making music because you enjoy doing it while having stable source of income in real life looks like the much better strategy to me. Plus it makes for better music because that's much more often music made from the heart than the music that's made to just sell units.
 
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well said

I am just a fan and very far removed from the music business but it seems to me that leaving it worse off than you entered it is the logical conclusion of a rap career, even if you manage to achieve some success in purely musical terms.

The pressure to live the imaginary lifestyle portrayed in the music is great, and unless you are prepared to resist that pressure and be very smart about managing your money, you will be left with nothing in the end. And you will be left with little in terms of skills that would allow to make a living in real life.

So if you enter the game with the goal of making money, you will almost certainly fail. Making music because you enjoy doing it while having stable source of income in real life looks like the much better strategy to me. Plus it makes for better music because that's much more often music made from the heart than the music that's made to just sell units.
i'm 36yrs old i have a good job and grew up in the era when all the great music from the bay came out. alot of the rappers just didnt have good business sense. alot of them didnt try to expand outside of the bay and network. so when i see a rapper from frisco who has had hit records in the barbershop gettin a fade and cant afford to pay the barber it's sad.