Complete package in who's eyes? Yours? I guess you just reading what you want and ignoring the rest...I said I'm not arguing with you on matters of opinion because it's pointless. Fuck who can rap good, I'm talking about who has the potential of bringing real attention back to the Westcoast. NOBODY from the Valley has shown they can do that. Including X-Raided. The Bay on the other hand has rappers that already have major followings throughout the country. Jacka, Fab, Ya Boy, Carson, Balance, Big Rich.....I could go on. The Bay has videos on MTV and BET, can the Valley make that same claim? I go to school with people from the East Coast who didn't even know Stockton and Sac had black people, let alone rappers. Granted, that is pretty ignorant of them, but yet and still it's another reason why the valley ain't on the Bay or LA's level.