Australian men 'turning into metrosexual tossbags'

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EDJ said:
CONSCIENCE WOULD BE TELLIN' ME THAT SHE'S PHYSICALLY INFERIOR, AND ME WRONg, FOR LETTIN' HER CONTINUE.
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I thought so but I wanted to make sure. Would you admit that women are not inferior in certain physical acts? Say like, giving birth?
 

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EDJ said:
^MEN CANNOT HAVE BABIES SO IT'S APPLES AND ORANgES.
Well you say women can't do certain physical activities, it's the same for men, no matter how you look at it.
 
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Women are better long-distance runners.

That's all I can really think of.

But EDJ's views aren't too far from a Georgia farmhouse in the 1950s with a dad who gets mad at his daughter for pulling her knickershorts down below her knees when playing outside.
 

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^EXPLAIN IT. YOU QUIK TO LABEL.

SIXXNESS,
NO, I SAID WOMEN ARE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR.

HUTCH,
NO YOU DIDN'T, CAUSE YOU LABELIN' WHAT I THINK AND I SIMPLY PLAYED DEVILS ADVOCATE. IF SOMETHIN' IS TOO PHYSICAL FOR A WOMAN TO DO, THAN SHE SHOULDN'T ATTEMPT TO DO IT OR PUT HERSELF IN THAT POSITION TO PROVE A POINT AND N-E MAN THAT'S "gENTLEMEN" SHOULDN'T ALLOW HER TO DO IT. NOW, DEPENDIN' ON A WOMAN FOR FINANCIAL PURPOSES IS NOT PHYSICALLY DEMANDIN'. I DON'T LABEL NO ROLE, YOU DID.
 

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I can agree that SOME females are physically inferior in SOME areas. However, you can't speak for an entire gender, whether it be male OR female. There's some PUSSY ass dudes out there that seriously COULD NOT lift a tire to save their life. Does this make them physically inferior to CERTAIN women? Yes.

Before you label an entire group of people, you should think about what you're saying. Do you like it when people label you because of your skin color?
 

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If that is a fact then i'm moving to Austrailia, the girls out there are fucking fine
 

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Sixxness said:
I can agree that SOME females are physically inferior in SOME areas. However, you can't speak for an entire gender, whether it be male OR female. There's some PUSSY ass dudes out there that seriously COULD NOT lift a tire to save their life. Does this make them physically inferior to CERTAIN women? Yes.

Before you label an entire group of people, you should think about what you're saying. Do you like it when people label you because of your skin color?
MAN, OF COURSE THERE'S WIMPY ASS FOO'S OUT THERE, BUT COMPARE A FEMALE ON HIS LEVEL AND HE PHYSICALLY SUPERIOR TO HER. SAME WITH A BODY-BUILDER ASS BITCH. PUT A MAN ON HER LEVEL AND HE'S WAY STRONgER THAN HER ASS. SO YES, I CAN SPEAK FOR AN ENTIRE gENDER, WOMEN ARE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR. SO IT HAS NOTHIN' TO DO WITH LABELIN'.
 

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That is the most IGNORANT shit I've read in a LONG TIME.

How are you NOT labelin? You're saying ONE gender is completely inferior to the other. I bet I know some females that could beat your ass, so does that mean they're inferior? No. That means YOU are in that aspect. NOTHING is ONE certain way, ALL THE TIME. If you haven't learned that by now, there's something wrong with your brain.

You are labeling, HARDCORE. Maybe you don't understand the concept of LABELING? I think that's what it is. From now on, unless you're going to have an open mind, don't discuss gender issues with me, even if I talk shit to you (which will likely happen). :) Good day to you sir.
 

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Sixxness said:
That is the most IGNORANT shit I've read in a LONG TIME.
LET YOU TELL IT.

Sixxness said:
How are you NOT labelin?
CAUSE I'M STATIN' A FACT.

Sixxness said:
You're saying ONE gender is completely inferior to the other.
NO I'M NOT. I'M STATIN' WOMEN ARE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR. NOT INFERIOR. LEARN HOW TO READ.

Sixxness said:
I bet I know some females that could beat your ass, so does that mean they're inferior?
NOW THAT'S AN IgNORANT STATEMENT RIgHT THERE. CAUSE FOR ONE, YOU AIN'T SEEN OR ASSESSED MY FIgHTIN' SKILLS, OR HOW STRONg I AM. AND LET'S SAY YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ABOUT SOME FEMALES WHOOPIN' MY ASS. I NEVA SAID THEY WERE INFERIOR OR THAT I WAS SUPERIOR. I SAID WOMEN ARE "PHYSICALLY" INFERIOR. MEANIN' THAT THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY. THAT'S A FACT YOU OR N-E-BODY ON THIS EARTH CAN'T CONTEST OR DENY.

Sixxness said:
No. That means YOU are in that aspect.
THAT MEANS WOMEN ARE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR AS A WHOLE, DESPITE THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE.

Sixxness said:
NOTHING is ONE certain way, ALL THE TIME. If you haven't learned that by now, there's something wrong with your brain.
ARE YOU ARgUIN' FOR YOUR HEALTH? IF I COMPARE A FEMALE THAT IS IN THE SAME PHYSICAL CONDITION AS YOU, YOU ARE gONNA BE STRONgER THAN HER(I MAY BE WRONg, IN THIS INSTANCE, LOL, LET ME QUIT).

Sixxness said:
You are labeling, HARDCORE.
NO I'M NOT. I'M STATIN' AN OBVIOUS FACT.

Sixxness said:
Maybe you don't understand the concept of LABELING?
MAYBE YOU DON'T.

Sixxness said:
I think that's what it is. From now on, unless you're going to have an open mind, don't discuss gender issues with me, even if I talk shit to you (which will likely happen). :) Good day to you sir.
LOL. SO MY MIND HAS TO BE WIDE OPEN TO STATE FACTS? YOU SOUND LIKE A TREND-FOLLOWER. BE YOUR OWN MAN, AND WEAR THE PANTS. AND YOU MAKIN' ME FEEL ALL OLD WITH THE BIRTHDAY COMIN' UP AND ALL WITH THAT SIR TALK.
 

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EDJ said:
NAME IT. BREAK IT ON DOWN PLAYA.
Take a look at what you're posting. You are basically saying that you'll change a tire (something that is short term), yet you will allow your woman to work (something that is long term.) On what grounds are you justifying the man changing the tire? You seem to do so on the grounds that one is more physical, but women have plenty of jobs that are physical to them, and you are failing to acknowledge the role conflict and role strain that may arise from her working while you collect the check.
 

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EDJ,

All I can say is, "robble robble robble."

You obviously are so stuck in the way you think that you can't even comprehend what I'm talking about being real. I seriously think you have an issue with your ego and self-esteem. Not saying you're a bad person, but you're too arrogant for your own good (cause when you're wrong, you don't realize it, and I won't post 100 posts to you to make you realize, I have better things to do with my time).

And yeah, I bet I do know some females that could kick your ass. I'm sure there's females that could kick my ass. You think WAY too highly of yourself.
 

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HERESY said:
Take a look at what you're posting.
I AM.

HERESY said:
You are basically saying that you'll change a tire (something that is short term), yet you will allow your woman to work (something that is long term.)
WOMEN WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT AND I'M ALL FOR IT. YET IF THEY WANT TO gO AgAINST THEY NATURE(TRY TO BE LIKE A MAN IN REgARDS TO A MAN'S NATURE), THEN THAT IN ITSELF IS FAKE. WOMEN IS THE MORE FRAgILE gENDER, THERE IS NO DENYIN' THAT.

HERESY said:
On what grounds are you justifying the man changing the tire?
PHYSICAL.

HERESY said:
You seem to do so on the grounds that one is more physical, but women have plenty of jobs that are physical to them, and you are failing to acknowledge the role conflict and role strain that may arise from her working while you collect the check.
EXACTLY, IF THAT'S PHYSICAL TO THEM, IMAgINE SOMETHIN' THAT IS PHYSICAL TO A MAN. BUT AS I SAID, I'M NOT AgAINST A WOMAN IN THE WORK PLACE, JUST AS YOU'RE NOT AgAINST HER PAYIN' THE TAB AND TREATIN' YOU.
 

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Sixxness said:
EDJ,

All I can say is, "robble robble robble."
SOUND LIKE THE HAMBURgLAR.:x

Sixxness said:
You obviously are so stuck in the way you think that you can't even comprehend what I'm talking about being real.
I KNOW WHAT YOU SAYIN', BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'? I AIN'T NO YOUNg PUNK THAT'S gONNA gET SWAYED TO N-E-THANg.

Sixxness said:
I seriously think you have an issue with your ego and self-esteem.
NOT REALLY. JUST CONFIDENT IN WHO I AM AND BELIEVE. BUT IF YOU CAN LOgICALLY BREAK SOMETHIN' DOWN AND MAKE BELIEVE, THEN BY AL MEANS....

Sixxness said:
Not saying you're a bad person, but you're too arrogant for your own good (cause when you're wrong, you don't realize it, and I won't post 100 posts to you to make you realize, I have better things to do with my time).
HOW AM I WRONg?

Sixxness said:
And yeah, I bet I do know some females that could kick your ass. I'm sure there's females that could kick my ass. You think WAY too highly of yourself.
THE DAY I BELIEVE A FEMALE CAN WHOOP MY ASS IS THE DAY I CHOP MY DIK OFF.:(
 

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It doesn't look like it.

WOMEN WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT AND I'M ALL FOR IT.
In some instances they want to be independent (this applies to all women.)

YET IF THEY WANT TO gO AgAINST THEY NATURE(TRY TO BE LIKE A MAN IN REgARDS TO A MAN'S NATURE), THEN THAT IN ITSELF IS FAKE.
You are not making any sense. Changing a tire is not going against a womans nature. Changing a tire is something EVERYONE (especially a woman) who knows how to drive a car or owns one should do, because a time may come when help may not be around. Now according to whatever logic you are currently using you're making the claim that women are going against their nature and that doing so is fake, yet you do NOT see how a woman WORKING while the man stays at home is going against so-called nature.

PHYSICAL.
Yet according to you, the work women do is not physical. Since when has getting up at 6 am, being to work at 8, working 8 hours a day and driving an hour home not physical? If you limit your claim to certain women you would at least make some since, but you are grouping all women when your claims.

EXACTLY, IF THAT'S PHYSICAL TO THEM, IMAgINE SOMETHIN' THAT IS PHYSICAL TO A MAN.
You are missing my entire point.

BUT AS I SAID, I'M NOT AgAINST A WOMAN IN THE WORK PLACE, JUST AS YOU'RE NOT AgAINST HER PAYIN' THE TAB AND TREATIN' YOU.
Again, you're missing the point. Allowing a woman to pay the tab and treat me is an act of courtesy. I can repay the act anytime I wish in like fashion, and all it would take is a simple outing. Do you not see how your claim is making zero sense?

Your ENTIRE argument is actually one based on perception and how society would view you, and I don't know if anyone else has picked up on that. For the most part people WOULD see you not changing the tire, and because of the different gender perspectives you would be seen as a terrible person for allowing a woman to change a tire. However, if the female works and you stay at home no one has to even see this, so it is easier for you to justify your actions and not have to worry about outside opinion.
 
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Captain Caveman says:



"Someone should gather up a female or two from the Sista Side to give another perspective to this argument."
 

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HERESY said:
It doesn't look like it.
PERCEPTION IS A MUTHA-FUKA.



HERESY said:
In some instances they want to be independent (this applies to all women.)
SO YOU SAYIN' IN SOME INSTANCES THEY WANT TO BE SUBMISSIVE? THEY NEED TO MAKE UP THEY FUCCEN MINDS THEN.



HERESY said:
You are not making any sense. Changing a tire is not going against a womans nature.
IF IT'S TOO HEAVY FOR HER, IT IS.

HERESY said:
Changing a tire is something EVERYONE (especially a woman) who knows how to drive a car or owns one should do, because a time may come when help may not be around.
I AgREE. BUT IF A MAN IS THERE, SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, PERIOD.

HERESY said:
Now according to whatever logic you are currently using you're making the claim that women are going against their nature and that doing so is fake, yet you do NOT see how a woman WORKING while the man stays at home is going against so-called nature.
NO, THAT'S gOIN' AgAINST THE ROLE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD ALREADY PERCEIVE AS. AND FOR ARgUMENT'S SAKE, LET'S SAY YOU'RE 100% CORRECT. WHAT NATURE ARE YOU SPEAKIN' OF?



HERESY said:
Yet according to you, the work women do is not physical. Since when has getting up at 6 am, being to work at 8, working 8 hours a day and driving an hour home not physical? If you limit your claim to certain women you would at least make some since, but you are grouping all women when your claims.
WHEN I SAY PHYSICAL I MEAN LIFTIN' SHIT AND PHYSICAL REPETITIVE MOTION. DRIVIN' IS NOT THAT PHYSICAL. IT'S NOTHIN' BUT A COUCH ON WHEELS. 8 HOURS OF NON- PHYSICAL WORK(FOR WOMEN THAT DO CLERICAL AND NON PHYSICAL WORK) IS STRAINEOUS(SP?) MENTALLY BUT NOT THAT PHYSICAL(UNLESS YOU ON YOUR FEET ALL DAY, AND EVEN THEN. SEE, WHAT'S PHYSICAL TO THEM MIgHT NOT BE PHYSICAL TO ME, BUT IT'S NOT A VICE-VERSA THANg, CAUSE WHAT'S PHYSICAL TO ME IS EVEN MORE PHYSICAL THEM, THUS THERE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR NATURE.



HERESY said:
You are missing my entire point.
NO I'M NOT. I'M SIMPLY STATIN' THAT WOMEN ARE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR. SO WHEN YOU SAY SHIT THAT'S PHYSICAL TO THEM, THAT IS PROVIN' MY POINT.



HERESY said:
Again, you're missing the point. Allowing a woman to pay the tab and treat me is an act of courtesy. I can repay the act anytime I wish in like fashion, and all it would take is a simple outing. Do you not see how your claim is making zero sense?
LETTIN' A WOMAN WORK AND LETTIN' HER PAY THE BILLS IS NO DIFFERENT THEN LETTIN' A WOMAN WORK AND LETTIN' HER PAY THE TAB. YEAH, I CAN EASILY MAKE MY OWN AND HAVE A FEMALE UNDA MY WINg, BUT AS I SAID, I'M ALL FOR A WOMAN BEIN' INDEPENDENT AS LONg AS IT'S NOT TOO PHYSICAL FOR HER. HOW DOES THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE?

HERESY said:
Your ENTIRE argument is actually one based on perception and how society would view you, and I don't know if anyone else has picked up on that. For the most part people WOULD see you not changing the tire, and because of the different gender perspectives you would be seen as a terrible person for allowing a woman to change a tire. However, if the female works and you stay at home no one has to even see this, so it is easier for you to justify your actions and not have to worry about outside opinion.
I gIVES A FUK WHAT PEOPLE THINK AND THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT ROLE A MAN AND WOMEN SHOULD PLAY(FOR THE MOST PART). WHAT I DO gIVE A FUK IS ABOUT WHAT I THINK AND WHAT I CONSIDER EQUAL.
 

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PERCEPTION IS A MUTHA-FUKA.
Its valid. Several people here are basically destroying every point you're making, but you insist on going in circles.

SO YOU SAYIN' IN SOME INSTANCES THEY WANT TO BE SUBMISSIVE? THEY NEED TO MAKE UP THEY FUCCEN MINDS THEN.
Yes, in some aspects and instances they DO want to be submissive. The problem doesn't come from not making up their mind because thats actually putting them in a box and forcing them to choose one or the other. The problem comes from lack of communication and not properly expressing (or hearing) the desires.

IF IT'S TOO HEAVY FOR HER, IT IS.
This doesn't make any sense.

I AgREE. BUT IF A MAN IS THERE, SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, PERIOD.
Why shouldn't she? Because our society says men should do A and women should do B. Yet, in another country, it may be perfectly normal for a woman to change a tire even if a man is present and nothing may be said of it. LOL@"PERIOD"

NO, THAT'S gOIN' AgAINST THE ROLE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD ALREADY PERCEIVE AS. AND FOR ARgUMENT'S SAKE, LET'S SAY YOU'RE 100% CORRECT. WHAT NATURE ARE YOU SPEAKIN' OF?
Different cultures have different aspects of what they view women as. In some cultures WOMEN are the leaders of the family, and the ones held in high esteem/regards. What nature am I speaking of? The same one you are.

WHEN I SAY PHYSICAL I MEAN LIFTIN' SHIT AND PHYSICAL REPETITIVE MOTION. DRIVIN' IS NOT THAT PHYSICAL.
Driving is not that physical, but driving in uncomfortable conditions can take a toll on the body, not to mention that driving 2 hours to home AFTER work makes a person more tired.

8 HOURS OF NON- PHYSICAL WORK(FOR WOMEN THAT DO CLERICAL AND NON PHYSICAL WORK) IS STRAINEOUS(SP?)
Yes it can be strenuous and part of your misconception comes from the fact that you actually believe these jobs are NOT strenuous. For the most part are secretaries using their biceps? No. However, repeated typing can lead to arthritis, carpal tunnel and other hand ailments. In addition, glaring at a computer screen over long periods of time can help cause eye damage, and I won't even go into the lower body strain that may come from sitting at a desk for a long time.

MENTALLY BUT NOT THAT PHYSICAL(UNLESS YOU ON YOUR FEET ALL DAY, AND EVEN THEN. SEE, WHAT'S PHYSICAL TO THEM MIgHT NOT BE PHYSICAL TO ME, BUT IT'S NOT A VICE-VERSA THANg, CAUSE WHAT'S PHYSICAL TO ME IS EVEN MORE PHYSICAL THEM, THUS THERE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR NATURE.
This doesn't make any sense.

NO I'M NOT. I'M SIMPLY STATIN' THAT WOMEN ARE PHYSICALLY INFERIOR. SO WHEN YOU SAY SHIT THAT'S PHYSICAL TO THEM, THAT IS PROVIN' MY POINT.
Again, you are missing my point, and next time you should probably ask me to clarify before you run off on a tagent and make the claim that I am proving your point. Question for you, when I said thats physical to them am I implying physical to women as a whole, that specific woman or what that woman THINKS is physical?

LETTIN' A WOMAN WORK AND LETTIN' HER PAY THE BILLS IS NO DIFFERENT THEN LETTIN' A WOMAN WORK AND LETTIN' HER PAY THE TAB.
This is blatent foolishness. Again, letting a woman pay the tab for dinner is 100% different from a woman working 5 days a week to support the household!! One is short term and has NO IMPACT on the household. The other is long term and DOES have an impact on the household.

YEAH, I CAN EASILY MAKE MY OWN AND HAVE A FEMALE UNDA MY WINg, BUT AS I SAID, I'M ALL FOR A WOMAN BEIN' INDEPENDENT AS LONg AS IT'S NOT TOO PHYSICAL FOR HER. HOW DOES THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE?
Because you would not be fulfilling the role of PROVIDER. What you are saying is it is ok to handle short term problems and fill the shoes of the "almight superior male" all while NEGLECTING the long term role of PROVIDER for the family.

I gIVES A FUK WHAT PEOPLE THINK AND THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT ROLE A MAN AND WOMEN SHOULD PLAY(FOR THE MOST PART). WHAT I DO gIVE A FUK IS ABOUT WHAT I THINK AND WHAT I CONSIDER EQUAL.
Sure you do.