Australian men 'turning into metrosexual tossbags'

[Deadpool]

Australian men 'turning into metrosexual tossbags'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1881088,00.html
Rod McGuirk, Associated Press in Canberra
Tuesday September 26, 2006
The Guardian


Australia's male culture is in crisis, with "mates and good blokes" being replaced by "nervous wrecks, metrosexuals and nerds", a former prime ministerial candidate writes in a book published today.
Mark Latham, who left politics after leading the Labor party to defeat at Australia's general election in 2004, blames changes in the workplace and -families, a rise in leftwing feminism, and neoconservatism for creating "a crisis in male identity" and "debilitating" the language.

"Instead of calling a spade a spade, our national conversation is now dominated by weasel words and the pretence of politeness," Mr Latham writes in his collection of favourite quotes and political anecdotes, A Conga Line of Suckholes - a phrase he used to deride John Howard's centre-right government in its support of the US invasion of Iraq.
"Few people have anything meaningful to say, for fear of offending the conservative status quo," he says in an extract published in a newspaper yesterday.

Mr Latham, labelled by political opponents as the most abusive lawmaker to speak in the federal parliament, blames the prime minister, an owlish social conservative who commentators say has turned his blandness into a political strength. "It's the revenge of the nerds, John Howard-style," Mr Latham writes.

Mr Howard, who will run for a fifth three-year term next year, declined to comment.

Mr Latham notoriously broke a Sydney taxi driver's arm in a beer-fuelled fare dispute in 2001, and once described George Bush, a personal friend of Mr Howard, as "the most incompetent and dangerous president in living memory".

In his book, Mr Latham laments the loss of the Australian language's "larrikin" character - a word used to describe a fun-loving troublemaker who bucks authority and conventions, considered a cherished aspect of the Australian character.

"One of the saddest things I have seen in my lifetime has been the decline in Australian male culture - the loss of our larrikin language and values," he writes. "Australian mates and good blokes have been replaced by nervous wrecks, metrosexual knobs and tossbags."

The book includes 40 of Mr Latham's own quotes and anecdotes as well as those from historical figures as diverse as Plato and Stalin.

 

[I AM]

What's really sad is that people automatically assume there is a way for a man to be and a way for a woman to be. If nobody told anybody else shit and there was nothing to tell us who to be, how to be, etc, we would just be who were are without interference.

You don't have to do certain things to be a man. That's just what most people think because that's what they are told and have been told all their lives. People need to say fuck it and just live life and not worry so much about what things are called and how things "should" be according to some stupid mother fucker that doesn't know more than .1% of the population in their own country.

 

[enserio]

That dude is just spewing off at the mouth because his party lost in the elections and he needs some excuses.

I'm just wondering why DP posted this, as there aren't many regular Aussie posters on here. Really it's just Hutch, methinks.

 

[MaKaVeLi_420]

What's really sad is that people automatically assume there is a way for a man to be and a way for a woman to be. If nobody told anybody else shit and there was nothing to tell us who to be, how to be, etc, we would just be who were are without interference.

wouldnt we be walking around naked? kinda like cavemen?

 

[Deadpool]

What's really sad is that people automatically assume there is a way for a man to be and a way for a woman to be. If nobody told anybody else shit and there was nothing to tell us who to be, how to be, etc, we would just be who were are without interference.

You don't have to do certain things to be a man. That's just what most people think because that's what they are told and have been told all their lives. People need to say fuck it and just live life and not worry so much about what things are called and how things "should" be according to some stupid mother fucker that doesn't know more than .1% of the population in their own country.

^^ That's the talk of a nervous wreck, metrosexual knob and tossbag.

 

[kingsvillektp]

Arent metrosexuals men who act gay but aint at the same time? That shit is confusing, who would hang with a metro?

im a homophobe so i probably wouldnt. no offense to you "funny" ppl.

 

[BoMbTrEeS2]

who cares

 

[kingsvillektp]

obviously the person who posted this thread.

 

[[ n a v ]]

wouldnt we be walking around naked? kinda like cavemen?

i think what he means is that the media and peer pressure and other sources of image portrayel tells men that to be a man you need to be a certain way. you need to dress a certain way, talk a certain way, be unemotional, be incensitive, be violent, be muscular, etc. over time there is substantial evidence that there is an increasing amount of this kind of brainwashing. for example, GI joes from the 70s were skinny, with a small gun and a "normal" guy, and every decade since they have grown bigger muscles, get bigger guns, and have a meaner look on their face. this kind of portrayel of what a "manly man" is can also be seen blatantly in movies (i e rambo), advertisements (ie beer commercials), etc.

for more on this subject, i recommend the film "Tough Guise".

the same thing happens for women. through these same brainwashing outlets, they are convinced they have to act a certain way, need to be skinny, need to sexual, etc.

in my opinion, this kind of thing is a big part of what is detiorating our society.

 

[MaKaVeLi_420]

yea, but im sure way back in time there was leaders of tribes, and all that shit. if there was no leaders to show people what to do and all that, we never would have evolved this far....

i know exactly what u are saying, and i agree....good example with the gi joe...

 

[Syko Sniper]

I'm Aussie too

Latham has been out for a while he was leader of Labour (working class) but lost the last election.

 

[I AM]

i think what he means is that the media and peer pressure and other sources of image portrayel tells men that to be a man you need to be a certain way. you need to dress a certain way, talk a certain way, be unemotional, be incensitive, be violent, be muscular, etc. over time there is substantial evidence that there is an increasing amount of this kind of brainwashing. for example, GI joes from the 70s were skinny, with a small gun and a "normal" guy, and every decade since they have grown bigger muscles, get bigger guns, and have a meaner look on their face. this kind of portrayel of what a "manly man" is can also be seen blatantly in movies (i e rambo), advertisements (ie beer commercials), etc.

for more on this subject, i recommend the film "Tough Guise".

the same thing happens for women. through these same brainwashing outlets, they are convinced they have to act a certain way, need to be skinny, need to sexual, etc.

in my opinion, this kind of thing is a big part of what is detiorating our society.

EXACTLY! Thank you for explaining and understanding what I'm talking about, it's good to see someone else with some intelligence in a thread like this.

@MaKaVeLi_420

If you weren't told you were naked, you wouldn't know what naked was. That's my point. People are TOLD how to live their lives, TOLD what to do, TOLD what to eat, TOLD what to say, TOLD how to do everything they do.

My point is, FUCK being told what to do. Do whatever the FUCK YOU WANT. Be yourself regardless of what others think or say. It's all relative.

@Deadpool

You're funny, but not that funny. Sounds like you have some serious interpersonal issues that you might need to work out with a therapist.

@Everyone who's talking and doesn't know SHIT...

METROSEXUAL does NOT mean you're "GAY" but don't fuck guys. That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard/seen.

It means you take care of yourself like a female would. You get manicures, pedicures, facials (not sexual), get your hair done, go shopping at expensive places, etc.

So basically metrosexual just means HIGH MAINTENANE MALES. If you FUCK MEN, you are GAY. If you DO NOT FUCK MEN, you are NOT GAY.

Some of you cats need to open your EYES and MIND to the reality of the way the world works.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY RAPPERS AND ACTORS GET THEIR NAILS DONE (MANICURE)? If that makes them gay, then I guess Ice Cube, Chris Tucker, Jay-Z and all them other cats are FAGGOTS huh?

You aren't gay until you start being sexual with a person of the same sex. God damn some of y'all are fuckin' IGNORANT.

 

[Hutch]

You aren't gay until you start being sexual with a person of the same sex.

Not necessarily - if you have feelings for a member of the same sex, then you could be considered gay. There are a lot of grey areas there though. If you have sex with a member of the same sex, then you are definitely gay though.

Who here has seen Crocodile Dundee? That's what all Australians 'used' to be like (or atleast portrayed as). The crude yobo who spends all his time drinking beer, grabing sheilas arses and catching & killing wild animals for the hell of it. The 'Manly man' who lives out bush and takes no shit. Well, Australians aren't like that any more. We care more about diplomacy - calling a sheep a sheep is not a sign of being a real man but a sign of being a loud-mouth. In his example, a 'real' Australian man would say 'Bloody hindus, go worship your little elephant god and eat a curry' whereas we would prefer to either (a) respect their culture, or (b) have the decency to shut our mouths so as not to make fools of ourselves.

There is one thing I really liked about his quote though:

A Conga Line of Suckholes - a phrase he used to deride John Howard's centre-right government in its support of the US invasion of Iraq.

Nice one.

 

[I AM]

Not necessarily - if you have feelings for a member of the same sex, then you could be considered gay. There are a lot of grey areas there though. If you have sex with a member of the same sex, then you are definitely gay though.

That's all I'm sayin. You are 100% gay as soon as you touch another dude's dick in a sexual manner, obviously doctors aren't gay, well some probably are...and that's kinda gross...lol...Now there's a topic! How would you feel if you found out your male doctor was gay and he was doing a physical on you? LOL....I'm just glad my doctor is a female.

 

[DubbC415]

i think what he means is that the media and peer pressure and other sources of image portrayel tells men that to be a man you need to be a certain way. you need to dress a certain way, talk a certain way, be unemotional, be incensitive, be violent, be muscular, etc. over time there is substantial evidence that there is an increasing amount of this kind of brainwashing. for example, GI joes from the 70s were skinny, with a small gun and a "normal" guy, and every decade since they have grown bigger muscles, get bigger guns, and have a meaner look on their face. this kind of portrayel of what a "manly man" is can also be seen blatantly in movies (i e rambo), advertisements (ie beer commercials), etc.

for more on this subject, i recommend the film "Tough Guise".

the same thing happens for women. through these same brainwashing outlets, they are convinced they have to act a certain way, need to be skinny, need to sexual, etc.

in my opinion, this kind of thing is a big part of what is detiorating our society.

exactly...i just saw the that film in my class....its totally on point...

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

Good read DP.

Fuck all the tossbags and eyebrow-pluckers talking shit.

 

[HERESY]

Good read DP.

Fuck all the tossbags and eyebrow-pluckers talking shit.

You love anime.

 

[Young Psyc]

LOL I DIDNT READ SHIT JUST READ THE TITTLE OF THE THREAD AND STARTED LAUGHING LOL.

 

[Festus]

fucking crikey australian tossbags

 

[EDJ]

LET ME PLAY DEVILS ADVOCATE.

IT'S NOT ONLY AN IMAgE PORTRAYAL, BUT A WAY FOR A MAN TO EXPRESS HIS MASCULINITY. BEIN' HIgH MAINTENANCE IS NOT AN ESSENTIAL THANg, AND BEIN' MORE TRADITIONAL WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE(SPEAKIN' AS A MAN). I AIN'T SAYIN' TO BE A BRUTE, STIK OUT YOUR CHEST, AND TRY TO BE A WOMANIZER. WHAT I AM SAYIN' IS THAT AS MEN START TO BE MORE HIgH MAINTENANCE AND BASICALLY BE MORE DEPENDANT ON OTHAS TO DO SHIT FOR HIM, RATHER THAN HIM DOIN' IT FOR HIMSELF(LIKE FIXXIN' CARS, HUNTIN', CHOPPIN' WOOD, LIFTIN' HEAVY SHIT, FARMIN', AND N-E OTHA TRADITIONAL MALE THANg THAT MEN DID/DO TO SURVIVE, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY A WOMAN WASN'T gONNA DO IT), JUST WEAKENS THAT MAN.