As Science is moving ahead and discovering new things daily

[MEXCOM]

What makes you think I hoped my opinion is a fact?

You either implied it with your parody or you only meant to repudiate Heresy's post.

Obviously the first is no longer a viable choice, because you're implying it's not, but if it is then you proved me right as far as what I said about your conduct and how you're prone to bursts, this time however the burst was more along the lines of your constant showings of anger/resentment/condescension/haughtiness.

If you did not imply it however then you proved that your lack of tact in debating leads to arguements that have little to do with the topic (which was one of my points in the infamously erased thread).

Either way you are no longer debating but arguing. A subtle yet all important difference.

You are right I imitated HERESY's style and to do so I posted a random article about a study that doesn't really prove anything, except that it says "Atheism is on the rise" in big letters

which unfortunately is not true or at least not visible in everyday life

Funny that you think that. I personally think most theist on this board have the exact opposite opinion. Apostasy increasing every day.

 

[ParkBoyz]

This is the part of science that I admire and appreciate, the part that has the humility and open mindedness to accept the fact that we do not know everything, but are trying to move towards truth and understanding.

THis is the part about religion AND science I disagree with. This is how I see thaG's and other dogmatic zealots approach to explaining the world around us.

For some, the scientific method is YOUR GOD.

Some day, science will evolve to the point where it will prove the existence of divinity.

Extremely valid points!

 

[HERESY]

You either implied it with your parody or you only meant to repudiate Heresy's post.

Obviously the first is no longer a viable choice, because you're implying it's not, but if it is then you proved me right as far as what I said about your conduct and how you're prone to bursts, this time however the burst was more along the lines of your constant showings of anger/resentment/condescension/haughtiness.

If you did not imply it however then you proved that your lack of tact in debating leads to arguements that have little to do with the topic (which was one of my points in the infamously erased thread).

Either way you are no longer debating but arguing. A subtle yet all important difference.

Funny that you think that. I personally think most theist on this board have the exact opposite opinion. Apostasy increasing every day.

:dead:

 

[YOUNGNUTT]

I HAVEN'T READ ANY POSTS, JUST THE TITLE OF THE THREAD, SO THIS MAY BE AN IGNORANT COMMENT, BUY IT IS MY OPINION!!!
FUCC SCIENCE!!!
JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE......
DOES THAT MEAN IT'S TRUE???
THE WORLD IS A STRANGE, STRANGE PLACE!!!

 

[ThaG]

I HAVEN'T READ ANY POSTS, JUST THE TITLE OF THE THREAD, SO THIS MAY BE AN IGNORANT COMMENT, BUY IT IS MY OPINION!!!
FUCC SCIENCE!!!
JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE......
DOES THAT MEAN IT'S TRUE???
THE WORLD IS A STRANGE, STRANGE PLACE!!!

wow...

 

[YOUNGNUTT]

WOW CUZ WHAT I SAID WAS REAL IGNORANT???
OR
WOW CUZ YOU AGREE???

 

[ParkBoyz]

Theism isn't science, period

So you can't require anyone to know theism in order to be a well-rounded scientist

I think I've done more than just "taking biology classes" (well, don't expect me to give you a list of publications, internet is supposed to be an anonymous place) and I think Nobel prize winners know more than you about evolution so whatever you learn from them can certainly be used on a board such as this

Moreover, last time I checked nobody has both a Nobel Prize in medicine and physiology and a Fields medal so great scientists seem to be sticking to one particular area. This is not going to change as knowledge in different disciplines becomes deeper and deeper because the human brain has certain limitations

This all goes back to my point, that you're not well-rounded, so to say that you know more about science is deniable and refuted.. Maybe you're more accustomed to going through the motions and steps of your own theory, even though most evolutionists argue all aspects of their theory from cosmology to earth sciences. Maybe your cup of tea is Biological sciences, but to state that a student of Biology is some how a bonafide scientist, expert, or authority of science its self is a stretch of the imagination. Some times it's good to humble your self when you know that you're out gunned in a sea of well-rounded people, and if all you know is Biology, maybe you should debate the technicalities among fellow Biologists on a Biology forum, this is gathering of the minds, not gathering of the Biologists or aspiring Biologists.. Most likely people are going to have more questions for you concerning science and evolution that falls outside of the realm of DNA. To this extent your value is extremely limited..

 

[|GOD|||ZILLA|]

chicken or the egg.

 

[ThaG]

WOW CUZ WHAT I SAID WAS REAL IGNORANT???
OR
WOW CUZ YOU AGREE???

you're ignorant

 

[YOUNGNUTT]

HAAAAAAAAA!!!

YOU DON'T EVEN NO ME AND YOUR CALLING ME IGNORANT!!!

 

[taetae]

God=perfection, a goal higher than ourselves, a separate entity, an all encompassing energy, the ultimate truth, unconditional love

Divinity=1. the quality of being divine; divine nature.
2. deity; godhood.
3. a divine being; God.
4. the Divinity, (sometimes lowercase) the Deity.
5. a being having divine attributes, ranking below God but above humans: minor divinities.
6. the study or science of divine things; theology.
7. godlike character; supreme excellence.
8. Also called divinity fudge. a fluffy white or artificially tinted fudge made usually of sugar, corn syrup, egg whites, and flavoring, often with nuts.

I think # 8 is most accurate though!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

funny, ThaG pretty much destroys everyone in this thread but some people are too stupid to realize it.

MexiFries, I deleted your thread for the reasons Heresy mentioned, plus I thought it was a joke that anyone wouldn't take him serious since he obviouvsly is more knowledgeable than the vast majority of siccness members on many subjects (not all but many).

Not sure why you think he's an alter ego - if you have an idea of who let me know and I'll compare IP addresses.

BTW, ThaG, do you go to MIT?

 

[RedStorm]

This is the part of science that I admire and appreciate, the part that has the humility and open mindedness to accept the fact that we do not know everything, but are trying to move towards truth and understanding.

Some day, science will evolve to the point where it will prove the existence of divinity.

You're not doing any better than the over-zealous scientists or religious fanatics. You're talking about being open minded and acknowledging the limits on our understanding, but then you seem to know that science will prove the existence of divinities? Talking about moving towards truth, but then assuming a particular "truth" and predicting that it will be proven is not being open minded and it is not moving towards truth; it is catering to your own beliefs. Your statement is just as close-minded as those of the people you scrutinize, and in direct contradiction of what you just praised.

 

[ThaG]

funny, ThaG pretty much destroys everyone in this thread but some people are too stupid to realize it.

MexiFries, I deleted your thread for the reasons Heresy mentioned, plus I thought it was a joke that anyone wouldn't take him serious since he obviouvsly is more knowledgeable than the vast majority of siccness members on many subjects (not all but many).

Not sure why you think he's an alter ego - if you have an idea of who let me know and I'll compare IP addresses.

BTW, ThaG, do you go to MIT?

18.x.x.x, right?

 

[HERESY]

Well, I think the man is holed up in some basement trying to burn ants with a cracked lense while kittens are getting "radioactive treatment" from a widespread home appliance. He probably thinks I'm some god talking wacko with a bible shoved half way up my ass.The feelings are mutual, but the difference between thaG and myself is that I AM open for discussion and talks, but he has proven to me countless times that he does not have his head on straight and rambles just for the fuck of it. Case in point, recently he said that he asked me a question and NOWHERE in that thread did he ask me a question. I told him to define whatever it was so we would be on the same page and then I would answer whatever it is he wanted me to answer. AS SOON AS ITYPED THAT HE WENT BONKERS.

 

[taetae]

You're not doing any better than the over-zealous scientists or religious fanatics. You're talking about being open minded and acknowledging the limits on our understanding, but then you seem to know that science will prove the existence of divinities? Talking about moving towards truth, but then assuming a particular "truth" and predicting that it will be proven is not being open minded and it is not moving towards truth; it is catering to your own beliefs. Your statement is just as close-minded as those of the people you scrutinize, and in direct contradiction of what you just praised.

You do have a point, however I do not base my "Truth" on any doctrine, scientific or religious. Also, Even though I attempted to define GOD and DIVINITY earlier, I honestly don't believe there is any way we can define such a thing. It exists outside of our understanding. My beliefs stem from real experiences I've had in my life, not something someone else has written about. I also believe there is much truth in both science and religion, I don't discount either.

 

[taetae]

and in direct contradiction of what you just praised.

How does it contradict? And would you be so bold as to explain what your beliefs are concerning this matter?

 

[Hutch]

What happened to this thread? Again, it's been broken down into a debate between religion and science. Why can't you all just answer the fucking question?

Science is advancing. I hope you all agree that this is a factual statement. There are some people, like myself, who are athiests and thus this doesn't pose any challenge to my beliefs. Then there are those of strong faith, who believe in a higher power regardless of what science does to disprove 'his' existence...

Finally, there are those who believe in a higher power but without the level of conviction that those of strong faith display. With regards to religious belief, there is no black and white, no 'I believe' or 'I don't believe'. Yes, there are shades of grey, degrees of belief - where do you stand? I am an athiest, but I could never claim that God doesn't exist because I just don't know, we CAN'T know! However, just as athiests must recognise that there is a chance, no matter how small, that God DOES exist, those of faith must also realise that there is a chance that he DOESN'T exist. What scientific evidence would shake the foundations of your belief? What would make you stop believing in God?

e.g. what if, over the next few years, great advances in paleontology took place, enabling us to find a direct, sequential series of fossils showing a direct pathway between humans and apes? or if we discovered a new species of humanoid in a remote jungle, with the intelligence of a child and the combined physiology of humans and apes. Would you believe in evolution? Would this belief in evolution remove the reason why you believed in God in the first place?

On another note, what if cosmologists and physicists developed a simple mathematical formula that explains our universe - the elusive Theory of Everything, or 'TOE'. This amazing new theory explains everything that we observe in the universe, including planetary motion and gravity, the weak and strong nuclear forces and electromagnetic force, quantum mechanics, black holes and points of singularity, like the one which supposedly gave birth to our universe in the big bang. Would this cause you to stop believing in God?

Could your faith be shaken, or is it too strong? What would it take?

 

[MEXCOM]

What happened to this thread? Again, it's been broken down into a debate between religion and science. Why can't you all just answer the fucking question?

You are aware that the nature of this very thread would ultimately lead to a debate between religion and science? It was unavoidable.

 

[EXXXO]

peep this poem.....real dope......Talib spitting the truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvZ9aXg5Xs