ARTISTS.. How much do you usually spend on an album?
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I understand that K, but there is quality shit out there for free (so-to-speak). I got a lot of freestyles in my sig, but I got some premixed original shit on my Myspace page.
Quality is usually what you pay for, but when you can gain the support of your peers, it makes things a helluva lot easier. If we not eatin RIGHT NOW, we can all get our fill down the road. Thats what I thought a MAJOR project was. Not just "hey, we needta make back wheat we put into this shit".
I want 30 in Washington and that shows a lot! Just Washington alone. I set my goals high. And with support of other niccas in the area, it can happen. Not JUST for Snicc, but for each individual.
Quality is usually what you pay for, but when you can gain the support of your peers, it makes things a helluva lot easier. If we not eatin RIGHT NOW, we can all get our fill down the road. Thats what I thought a MAJOR project was. Not just "hey, we needta make back wheat we put into this shit".
I want 30 in Washington and that shows a lot! Just Washington alone. I set my goals high. And with support of other niccas in the area, it can happen. Not JUST for Snicc, but for each individual.
Dope thread, my first album "Kataztrophik" I spent about $10,000 on everything, promotion, posters, beats, manufacturing, graphics and the whole 9. My latest album "Total Package" I've spent around $9,000 so far on everything but I'm still promoting it and will be for the rest of the year so that number will prolly climb to about $12,000 by the end of the year.
And anyone that knows me KNOWS I'm alllll about this region... and offering a hand to help the next person move forward.. it was a long time that I did what I do ON LOVE... I figured it would come back to me-- and for the most part it has.. but.. theres only so much you can do for the next man before it starts costing YOU to help them, feel me? I know several of the more established artists/producers/designers that have reached out to help those comin' up- be it to get them on shows, beats by the bundle, after hours studio sessions, graphics at a reduced rate, etc... the painful reality is... someone's head gets big, egos get in the way and shit goes all bad....
First album, 500 press...produced, recorded, mixed, mastered, graphics done all in-house. Some costs were Disposable film (haha), FedEx costs, and of course, Pressing. Total of around $1000.
Needless to say, it wasn't the greatest quality, but the people didn't mind at the time. Its a shame no follow-up was made, my/our Engineer-Producer was really getting his skills up.
Extremely true.
For those that know me (Tadou) and don't feel me...trust me...no matter what you personally think, I've had people throw beats, studio time, and everything else at me--and I'm not alone. You may not get 100% quality, but then again, you could listen to a Bosko beat CD and not like all 25/25 beats on there.
The reality is that there is a lot of shitty rappers out there and just as many warped-minded producers. When the two hook up, they will feast on each other, the latter raping the other with high costs, and the former shitting on the other by no-showing, flaking on shows, and so on. That is not a relationship built on trust or admiration--it is built on pure business, and as such, will fall apart for any given reason, or for no reason at all.
Sniccrs and other artists will start to get their 30K when the regions top producers and engineers can stop being so rigid, and work with those artists that are Mixtape WARRIORS, stay OUT of trouble, DON'T drunk drive, are EXCELLENT performers, and so on. -- Giving away free shit all the time would, of course, be a mistake, but there are some people out there (Diggz Dime, Young Vicious, Big Will, On One, etc.) that you would have to be a crazy asshole to not be lowering your prices for.
Needless to say, it wasn't the greatest quality, but the people didn't mind at the time. Its a shame no follow-up was made, my/our Engineer-Producer was really getting his skills up.
Extremely true.
For those that know me (Tadou) and don't feel me...trust me...no matter what you personally think, I've had people throw beats, studio time, and everything else at me--and I'm not alone. You may not get 100% quality, but then again, you could listen to a Bosko beat CD and not like all 25/25 beats on there.
The reality is that there is a lot of shitty rappers out there and just as many warped-minded producers. When the two hook up, they will feast on each other, the latter raping the other with high costs, and the former shitting on the other by no-showing, flaking on shows, and so on. That is not a relationship built on trust or admiration--it is built on pure business, and as such, will fall apart for any given reason, or for no reason at all.
Sniccrs and other artists will start to get their 30K when the regions top producers and engineers can stop being so rigid, and work with those artists that are Mixtape WARRIORS, stay OUT of trouble, DON'T drunk drive, are EXCELLENT performers, and so on. -- Giving away free shit all the time would, of course, be a mistake, but there are some people out there (Diggz Dime, Young Vicious, Big Will, On One, etc.) that you would have to be a crazy asshole to not be lowering your prices for.
My biggest thing is that there needs to be some sense of pride in product. And a trash rapper is spending money for that nice beat and its a waste. But whats the producer thinkin "oh, well, I got breaded out". Come on! Thats one of the things we're not doing, we're not controlling the flow of Northwess garbage. We pollutin the streets and thank God radio aint allowing someof these dudes with access to pollute the airwaves. Think about it, who you want to represent you?!
Oh, and side note: I wish I could smack the shit outta you right now Shoez for that DUI comment! :lol: Hahahahaaaa! Youre not funny.
Ehhhh...heheheheh.
Some true talk there though. Some producers out here are really like that, anything for money. -- They'll watch the hood movies where you have cracked-out, crazy-looking people approaching drug-dealers to buy something, and they just look 'em away, say "Fuck your money", and tell them to kick rocks.....but NONE of it registers and relates to what THEY do!
If its someone YOU'RE not feeling, and you go out and seek 2nd and 3rd and 4th opinions (not just from YOUR BOYS, but from a diverse background), and NOBODY is really feeling them...yeah...take 'em for all their stupid ass will give you.
But if its someone you ARE kind of feeling, and you do the background work, and find out that others are feeling them.....but they're broke.....then you ought to give them a strong talking-to, and say that if you give them some beats and they aren't used (or end up on other peoples' projects), they are going to have some problems--Just like in the real world how if you don't pay your credit bills, the repo man comes calling.
Me personally, I can't think of anyone I owe money to, besides owing DJ Buttnaked $10 for a CD he gave me that I never got around to reviewing. But I'm not even trying to get free stuff, because I can GUARANTEE it would do nothing but sit around until I graduated...
Some true talk there though. Some producers out here are really like that, anything for money. -- They'll watch the hood movies where you have cracked-out, crazy-looking people approaching drug-dealers to buy something, and they just look 'em away, say "Fuck your money", and tell them to kick rocks.....but NONE of it registers and relates to what THEY do!
If its someone YOU'RE not feeling, and you go out and seek 2nd and 3rd and 4th opinions (not just from YOUR BOYS, but from a diverse background), and NOBODY is really feeling them...yeah...take 'em for all their stupid ass will give you.
But if its someone you ARE kind of feeling, and you do the background work, and find out that others are feeling them.....but they're broke.....then you ought to give them a strong talking-to, and say that if you give them some beats and they aren't used (or end up on other peoples' projects), they are going to have some problems--Just like in the real world how if you don't pay your credit bills, the repo man comes calling.
Me personally, I can't think of anyone I owe money to, besides owing DJ Buttnaked $10 for a CD he gave me that I never got around to reviewing. But I'm not even trying to get free stuff, because I can GUARANTEE it would do nothing but sit around until I graduated...
Me and my guys is looking for an office space to put a studio at right now.We are looking in the sea-tac,federal way area. As soon as we get the booth built and the studio set up and all that good stuff we will be charging affordable prices for studio time. Im thinking $25hr and $200 for a 10hr block. Thats love right there. I will be working with the pro tools but my fam will be working with quebase. So what ever program you feel the most we will have. I will keep yall updated. Also I am looking for up and coming artist that are hot to work with. Get at me on the pm if you hot and you about yah shit 1 hunid
I'd like to say something about this comment... just because a producer sells beats to an artist HE/SHE isnt feelin' doesnt mean they dont have a sense of pride in their craft--
::example:: a Japanese artist comes to "said" producer and wants 10 beats @ $250/beat.. youre not feeling his music, you may even think he's WACK but he's got his OWN fanbase and even tho' you might not be a part of that fan base, he's still helping to get your mortgage paid.... should this business be ALL about money..? No.. but the reality at the end of the day is... Life isnt FREE.. a lot of the producers I know dont work a square but still have car payments, mortgages and families....
-- "said" producer is supposed to turn down $2500 because he isnt a 'fan'..? ..maybe in a perfect world...
And as for discounting beats or giving beats away to an artist that youre feelin'.. sure.. I've seen it happen several times, its when the chemistry is there that the hottest shit pops off.... but how many times have these DOPE artists taken these beats, recorded their 16's over these beats... and then never used them... never put out a project...? that has got to be frustrating as well, no? ... all I'm saying is... there are so many different facets in this bizarre industrty...
As much as it takes to surpass your goal.
I would never put a song on an album that I wasn't feeling to the fullest. So, I would say most of the financing goes towards production on that part.
So if you can get in good with some hot producers, you got it made.
If someone gave me a beat for free and I wasn't feeling it, I would trash it, that's the bottom line. I only fuck with top notch beats, period. No slack. Production is bar none the most important part of an album besides the artist himself.
Peace.
I would never put a song on an album that I wasn't feeling to the fullest. So, I would say most of the financing goes towards production on that part.
So if you can get in good with some hot producers, you got it made.
If someone gave me a beat for free and I wasn't feeling it, I would trash it, that's the bottom line. I only fuck with top notch beats, period. No slack. Production is bar none the most important part of an album besides the artist himself.
Peace.
Yes. Correct.
I have as well. I think everyone has. Every artist has a different taste and has a different look on how their music should sound. Just because you wouldn't get down on a song on the same type of beat doesn't mean that beat isn't dope. You just have a different style. Certain beats get you going.
But I don't care how good the artist is or how good he/she takes on the beat, if the beat is fucking wack, then it's a no go.
I'll say it again, universally speaking, I'll only fuck with beats that I'm feeling, beats that I can't resist but perform my best on. I've heard way too many to be non-selective. Literally thousands. So I'm extremely selective. Beats that force me to excel. I would never limit myself to any kind of beat, you must be selective.
Besides the artists skill, production is everything and more.
I have as well. I think everyone has. Every artist has a different taste and has a different look on how their music should sound. Just because you wouldn't get down on a song on the same type of beat doesn't mean that beat isn't dope. You just have a different style. Certain beats get you going.
But I don't care how good the artist is or how good he/she takes on the beat, if the beat is fucking wack, then it's a no go.
I'll say it again, universally speaking, I'll only fuck with beats that I'm feeling, beats that I can't resist but perform my best on. I've heard way too many to be non-selective. Literally thousands. So I'm extremely selective. Beats that force me to excel. I would never limit myself to any kind of beat, you must be selective.
Besides the artists skill, production is everything and more.