Are we witnessing the evolution of the QB?

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One thing that all these QB's had in common is the all had good running backs and offensive lines
Not to pick on you, but I'm kind of sick of seeing this brought up all the time.

The Seahawks were 24th in the league in 2011 in 3rd down conversion %. This year, 12th place. That wasn't because of Marshawn Magic, or the OL, or Sydney Rice dominating. That was all about wise decision-making from the QB position. Finding the open man and not panicking all the time and taking terrible coverage sacks like Tarvaris used to do. If not for those couple crap-fest losses in the first quarter of the season, that number would look even better.

Same thing with our run game: Seahawks were 21st in the league in rushing last year. 2012, with almost the same personnel (Okung, Unger, Marshawn, Leon, Mikerob, Breno, Moffit, etc), 3rd in the league. We didn't add any high-profile signings, just a couple mid-late round picks.

Back-up RB Turbin didn't make us go up 18 spots. CLEARLY that was all about Russell Wilson coming in and making us that much more dynamic, and making defenses stay honest. Having "good running backs" is about more than just fantasy stats, and breaking a bunch of long ass TD runs but getting stuffed most of the time (Jamaal Charles, MJD, CJ2k) - it's about those intermediate runs of 5-15 yards that defenses give up when they can't cheat with 8 in the box and/or get caught over-pursuing.

/rant

Seriously though, these guys are the future. Defenses can't simply adjust overnight, or over one offseason, with studying and game-planning alone: they'll need to get quicker, stronger, longer-limbed, more agile defenders, and that's going to take time to build up. The thing that makes a team like Seattle so scary is that our defense is already built to stop the read-option...other defenses are going to take years to catch up.
 
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One thing that all these QB's had in common is the all had good running backs and offensive lines
Most of Washington's line is made up of cast aways (minus Trent Williams) and pretty much the same players from the year before when Sexy Rexy/ Beck were the signal callers.... RG3 and Morris both improved that offense. Our offense was night and day from the previous season!
 
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I think we're looking at a special group.

As far as these QBs getting injured, both Wilson and Kaepernick do a great job staying away from that.

As far as when one of them will win a Superbowl, its only a matter of time.

But to think these QBs are some sort of "survival of the fittest" superior being in sports is not going to be true. There's still gonna be guys throwing the ball from the pocket and they'll still be the majority. There's just not a lot of guys like Cam and Kap available to draft.

And just to add what Wilson did last year is the most insane thing I've ever seen. I don't think anyone gave that guy a chance in hell except Pete Carroll and now the Seahawks are going to battle the Niners for NFC supremacy next year.
 
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I will bump this thread in 10 years. Bookmarked.
When they start winning Superbowls I will say we are seeing an evolution, but they haven't. I mean you could say Steve Young was won a Superbowl, but he won 1. Not one "mobile" QB since him has won a Super Bowl.

I just think it is a fad. Give me Manning, Brady, Roethlesbeger, Brees, etc all say over those guys. With that said I am sure owners love them because they sell out stadiums, are tremendously more exciting to watch, and they sell merchandise.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Then......next.......
I'd take a young Wilson and Kaepernick over those getting old QBs. They are the future.
You goddamn right! Passing of the guard yesterday. Payton Manning was a statue, can't move.
 
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How is Jaws a retard? 17 years in the NFL, as a QB, says he knows more about QBs than anyone on siccness.net smh
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I respect Kaeps game, but at the end of the day I'm happy Wilson is DA CHAMP!
Jaws is cool, nice guy, but he really has said some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard at times, like Skip Bayless status almost lol. I mean Jaws rated Joe Flacco over Drew Brees.