Are We As A Region This Needy For Fame???
- Thread starter STREETFIGHT
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No some things sale because of their substance- not their gimmick. Now everthing worh something has an appeal if that's what you mean...then I agree. But when you start making music to mimmick the image of what you think people want, their is a problem. Gimmicks are like bubble gum they start off great, but run out of flavor fast.
STREETFIGHT....
I think hyphy is a movement....and one strong point you made in your initial statement was that when the dust settles, people are basically going to think bad about the bay......Only thing I can say is I hope not.....They won't either since most people, i think/hope, DO know that the bay's uniqueness goes way past the music, but back into the historical movements that have taken place here involving Many cultures, (from Japanese being held on angel island to the black panthers/huey newton, etc etc, the list is too deep to start).
Seems like this hyphy thing is mainly for younger audiences....I'm 27 years old, which aint young, but really aint that old either.....Don't get me wrong, I stay blappin ALL bay songs, from early and mid nineties, (which is where I grew up), to now......
Mainly, I believe that this is a reflection of the southern movement, and crunk or whatever....etc etc etc. We see they're making all the rap/party music and making money, so the hyphy thing, (although purely BAY all day), is an extension of that. Rappers trying to commercialize and popularize something that was part of the street culture in the Bay, mostly Oakland IMO. (However, people in Vallejo, in my recollection, were "Thizzing" since like '99, so it's all the bay that influences the bay culture, not just oak.....like richmond's "yee"). Where am I going w/ this? I don't know, just got off work and got loaded, but I said what I have to say.
I think hyphy is a movement....and one strong point you made in your initial statement was that when the dust settles, people are basically going to think bad about the bay......Only thing I can say is I hope not.....They won't either since most people, i think/hope, DO know that the bay's uniqueness goes way past the music, but back into the historical movements that have taken place here involving Many cultures, (from Japanese being held on angel island to the black panthers/huey newton, etc etc, the list is too deep to start).
Seems like this hyphy thing is mainly for younger audiences....I'm 27 years old, which aint young, but really aint that old either.....Don't get me wrong, I stay blappin ALL bay songs, from early and mid nineties, (which is where I grew up), to now......
Mainly, I believe that this is a reflection of the southern movement, and crunk or whatever....etc etc etc. We see they're making all the rap/party music and making money, so the hyphy thing, (although purely BAY all day), is an extension of that. Rappers trying to commercialize and popularize something that was part of the street culture in the Bay, mostly Oakland IMO. (However, people in Vallejo, in my recollection, were "Thizzing" since like '99, so it's all the bay that influences the bay culture, not just oak.....like richmond's "yee"). Where am I going w/ this? I don't know, just got off work and got loaded, but I said what I have to say.
I aint from the Bay and I agree with you 100%. You have a point cuz the shit is cool, but it does have an element of ignorance that you just cant turn a blind eye to. Its already enough as a culture that we constantly have rappers incarcerated, fighting and shooting at each other over lyrics, and now we have a faction of our music endorsing.....well for lack of a better word...STUPIDITY. Its definintly not a good look for hip hop or even gangsta rap. Like ghostriding the whip??? What a stupid ass concept! Its almost like a bunch of 7th graders with A.D.D. that will do ANYTHING for attention. I guess next some clown will make a song about playing russian roulette and you'll have a bunch of pill poppin thizzin goin dumb assholes spillin they noodles. Like Dave Chappelle said...When Keeping It real goes wrong..
Here is what's funny...I would say 99% of the post on here are from young males (most of which are from middle class backgrounds) who arn't truly affected by the ignorant ideal attached to the Hyphy thing. But that's not it MafiaQueen is one of the only females on here AND she's from another region and this is her opinion of Hyphy. WOMEN BUY THE ALBUMS so from a business perspective their opinion counts for more to a record company, artist trying to make money or radio station. The artist that are already branded as "stupid, dumb and hyphy" are already what they are, but those who have a chance to get their own outside of that box need to do it before it's to late.
You shouldn't fake your happiness just because others seem happy. People are happy that the Bay is gettin luv at any rate. for the record i dig SOME of the Hyphy music, just like I digg SOME of the Mobb Music and SOME of the New Bay music and SOME of alot of what the Bay has to offer. Lets take those SOME's and add them up and then you have a BAY AREA movement. I don't wanna see San Quinn gettin hyphy or Messy Marv either they got a more game spittin type style that can work across the nation too. I don't want to see Ya Boy, Balance or The Frontline doin a bunch of Hyphy shit...I want to see bay artist have the chance to do what they do best and still have the chance to be successful.
