bias standpoint? I really don't see it dogg. Same thing with the vocabulary issue too. What I wrote is not what I want to believe, its what I do believe. It's what a lot of other people believe too. I didn't force it on anyone else (hence the use of "I" as in "I don't really consider them rappers.") But my point was, in my opinon, those are the people that represent hip hop at least on MTV, BET, Clearchannel Radio, etc. If you think Ja Rule, Nelly, P Diddy and the Big Tymers are good representitives that's your opinon, my opinon is that they are crossovers, samplers, and synthesizers...and that Eminem is better than all those names I just mentioned, and he's not just credibility to white people, he's one of the best MC's out there...