Americans will never embrace soccer

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WHO CARES IF AMERICANS NEVER EMBRACE IT, THE EURO CUP AND WORLD CUP IS DOPE AND NO OTHER SPORT WILL HAVE SO MUCH IMPACT ON SO MANY DIFFERANT COUNTRIES AND JUST IN CASE YOU DIDNT KNOW THE WORLD CUP FINAL GOT PRETTY HIGH RATINGS IN AMERICA SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT SOCCER AINT GOING ANY WHERE.
 
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Well i disagree, The US has embraced soccer also. except for the fact that we call it soccer instead of futbol! For reals though i'm not racist to start this comment off so dont reply that i am. i am white/mexican and i know that the best athletes in america are majorly black. if we want to be good at soccer we need to teach more african americans the game. say at least 7 black guys and 2 white and 2 mexican on the starting squad. we'd definately be much better simply because we'd be a faster team.

Oh yeah and baseball is definately the most boring sport to watch. The MLB Allstar game was lame the score was 3-2. its an allstar game lets see some slower pitches for some nice homeruns
 
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america loves soccer , last time i checked mexico is in north america and every other country that loves soccer is in south america.

hey i think its on the same level as baseball , both are fun to watch when you are drunk.futbol americano is the best tho
 

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stop calling football soccer and certainly dont call it futbol or some shit.
I honestly dont understand why you even call "american football" football anyways.
The real football is older.
Besides the only time you really touch the "football" with your foot is at kick offs and field goals.
That term in connection to that sport is fuckin nonsense.
I do like "american football" too, but i think it can be as boring as football can be sometimes, i just really cant stand the frequent interruptions after every offence.
 
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T-Rip said:
WHO CARES IF AMERICANS NEVER EMBRACE IT, THE EURO CUP AND WORLD CUP IS DOPE AND NO OTHER SPORT WILL HAVE SO MUCH IMPACT ON SO MANY DIFFERANT COUNTRIES AND JUST IN CASE YOU DIDNT KNOW THE WORLD CUP FINAL GOT PRETTY HIGH RATINGS IN AMERICA SO SAY WHAT YOU WANT SOCCER AINT GOING ANY WHERE.
thats what im thinking too. Euro and worldcup is worth living for ! And i couldnt care less if Usa likes it or not . Who cares , right? The rest of the world dont care and its still the biggest event in the world , all subjects included .
 
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datniggawilliam said:
WHo cares about the worlds game? The rest of the wrold Is boring compared to american life.. Expect for the Contrys in war, The game is boreing Its nothing like basketball or Football Americans Love Excitement So Why would we embrace such a boreing ass game.. all they do is kick the ball back and forth over and fucking over.. Points are almost never scored.
baseball is Almost as lame as soccer but it has its good points Liek points being scored.. and inside the park homeruns

go eat a cheeseburger at McDonalds.
 

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dali said:
stop calling football soccer and certainly dont call it futbol or some shit.
I honestly dont understand why you even call "american football" football anyways.
The real football is older.
Besides the only time you really touch the "football" with your foot is at kick offs and field goals.
That term in connection to that sport is fuckin nonsense.
I do like "american football" too, but i think it can be as boring as football can be sometimes, i just really cant stand the frequent interruptions after every offence.
We call it football because we're in America and in America football is fucking football. We call "futbol" soccer. When we go to another country, then we'll start differentiating. But don't get pissed off about what we call our sport in our own country, thank you very much.


For the record - i think Soccer developed in other countries in such a way that people started gradually learning the rules and loving the game in such a way that it evolved into the world's sport.

Kind of like what happened with football in America. Foreigners don't like football as much because its hard for them to pick up on all the rules. 22 positions plus special teams with all kinds of rules, plus you have to run and pass, all different coverages, knowing when to go for it on 4th down, all that shit.

Our understanding of games like football (and basketball) are what makes watching the game so exciting. I'll be the first to admit that when I watch a soccer game I don't understand the rules that well, which probably takes away from the excitement.

But I think football is (A) the true thinking man's game and (B) offers something for everybody of every size and athletic ability. Its the only sport where the big fat kid and the tall athletic skinny kid can be on the same field and both play an important role. Its also the only game where the dumb jock and the genius defensive coordinator can be on the same field and have just as important rules. Not to mention that there's something about the physicality of the game that makes it a right of passage in many families.

My opinion, if it were on a level playing field, and no country had ever seen football or soccer, and were forced to learn the rules of both games simultaneously, they would find football supremely interesting, but again that's my American bias. And having my dad be a football coach doesn't help the situation any.

But in a fast paced society, I'd much rather see a multiple touchdown, this two-point-conversion could make our break the game, maybe we should kick a field goal, is there enough time left on the clock, how is the match up between the quarterback and the receivers, blah blah blah that makes the game supremely interesting to anything I've ever seen if YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. Why would a society that has been programmed to watch 70+ point football games and 200+ point basketball games with highlight catches and slamdunks want to watch a bunch of skinny guys on a huge field run around for a couple hours back and forth to win a game 1-0?
 
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BUTCHER 206 said:
fuck all the baseball haters baseball is the greatest sport.

anybody watch the new york mets crack two grandslams in the same inning against the chicago cubs? i sat and watched that game yesterday and it was the shit. theres 10 billion other classic examples of awesome games but its not really fair because baseball has about 1000 more awesome games a season than most sports even play a season.
baseball is one of the most boring sports of all time. I am a Barry Bonds fan though. Fuck them crackers Barry!
 
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Stealth said:
We call it football because we're in America and in America football is fucking football. We call "futbol" soccer. When we go to another country, then we'll start differentiating. But don't get pissed off about what we call our sport in our own country, thank you very much.


For the record - i think Soccer developed in other countries in such a way that people started gradually learning the rules and loving the game in such a way that it evolved into the world's sport.

Kind of like what happened with football in America. Foreigners don't like football as much because its hard for them to pick up on all the rules. 22 positions plus special teams with all kinds of rules, plus you have to run and pass, all different coverages, knowing when to go for it on 4th down, all that shit.

Our understanding of games like football (and basketball) are what makes watching the game so exciting. I'll be the first to admit that when I watch a soccer game I don't understand the rules that well, which probably takes away from the excitement.

But I think football is (A) the true thinking man's game and (B) offers something for everybody of every size and athletic ability. Its the only sport where the big fat kid and the tall athletic skinny kid can be on the same field and both play an important role. Its also the only game where the dumb jock and the genius defensive coordinator can be on the same field and have just as important rules. Not to mention that there's something about the physicality of the game that makes it a right of passage in many families.

My opinion, if it were on a level playing field, and no country had ever seen football or soccer, and were forced to learn the rules of both games simultaneously, they would find football supremely interesting, but again that's my American bias. And having my dad be a football coach doesn't help the situation any.

But in a fast paced society, I'd much rather see a multiple touchdown, this two-point-conversion could make our break the game, maybe we should kick a field goal, is there enough time left on the clock, how is the match up between the quarterback and the receivers, blah blah blah that makes the game supremely interesting to anything I've ever seen if YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. Why would a society that has been programmed to watch 70+ point football games and 200+ point basketball games with highlight catches and slamdunks want to watch a bunch of skinny guys on a huge field run around for a couple hours back and forth to win a game 1-0?


I just want to say that I am not really into american football. What do you do with your feet so they can interact with the ball? I've seen some games, didn't really see that part. Just a couple of times a guy kicks the ball in some "broken-fork" type of structure, which is extremely enormous and is in the sky.

p.s. Ball: round object that is hit or thrown or kicked in games
round ya know....round, like a 3D circle.
 

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ChainsawDriveBy said:
I just want to say that I am not really into american football. What do you do with your feet so they can interact with the ball? I've seen some games, didn't really see that part. Just a couple of times a guy kicks the ball in some "broken-fork" type of structure, which is extremely enormous and is in the sky.

p.s. Ball: round object that is hit or thrown or kicked in games
round ya know....round, like a 3D circle.
I think it would make more sense if you understood the roots of the game and how it has evolved into today. It developed from "football" (soccer) and rugby. William Ebb Ellis, a "soccer" player at the Rugby School in England, was the first person credited with picking up a soccer ball and running with it, thereby breaking and changing the rules in 1823. This influence carried over to the founding of American style football. Kicking a field goal was worth as much or almost as much points as running the ball in for a touchdown. As the sport became increasingly brutal (180 serious injuries and 15 deaths) President Roosevelt called for Harvard, Princeton, and Yale to change the rules to save the sport. It is at this piont that the forward pass was invented. After the forward pass and running game were established, it continued to evolve with defenses and offenses (Wing T, Run and Shoot, etc.).

So, if you're wondering where the name Football came from, it is the evolution of your football and rugby. And if you wanted to know where the ball came from, it is an evolution of your rugby.

But thanks for posting up the definition of a ball for us, I'll see if I can run that by Commissioner Tagliabue, because he obviously never got the memo...

But things you can do with you feet - Kickoff, Punt, Field Goal, Extra point, Drop Kick. The Kickoff sends the ball down the field to other team, establishing field position. A punt is done by the offense when they don't believe they'll make a first down and they want to move the ball down the field before relinquishing possession. A field goal is worth 3 points and is kicked when the team doesnt think they'll get a touchdown (usually done on the last down of the drive). An extra point is a kick for one point done after a team scores a touchdown. And a dropkick is Doug Flutie's claim to fame.

But the reason people who don't understand American Football don't like it is (like many things) they don't understand the rules. If anybody took the time to understand the game and the rules, they would realize that there is an insane amount of strategy that goes into the game, and half of the excitement comes from understanding the odds of success on any given down/play/or drive.

Then again the same can be said for soccer.