AIG Execs spend $400,000 at spa after bailout

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Jun 27, 2005
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I think the point im tryin to make is that the $400,000 didnt come from the taxpayers. AIG is still makin billions a year its just that they hold so many loans that they will never be able to collect. They hold too much bad debt that their liabilities outweigh the assets that they can access and use as cash. Can they afford to spend $400,000 on shit like this? Yes. Should they? Of course not, but we all know they will continue to do it.
so they're insolvent, need OUR fuckin money to save their asses so its time to throw a $450,000 crack party? If they had that money to spend, why did they need OUR money? If they needed our money, why are they running out and blowing a house on a fuckin luxury spa? Shit I got credit card debt. Why don't we enact a bill to pay my shit off on the taxpayers' dime and I'll go out and buy a $5000 bottle of Remy to celebrate?
 
Jun 19, 2004
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DAMN READ THIS CAREFULLY, THE GOVERNMENT LET THEM BARROW MONEY SO THEY WOULD NOT GO UNDER, OVER TIME THEY WILL PAY THE MONEY BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT.
 
Jan 2, 2003
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the money is for AIG's books....

their liabilities heavily outweighed their assets...

if their credit rating were to be lowered, because thats what happens when the ability to pay off ur debt decreases,...they would have to keep EVEN MORE assets on their books WHICH WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE because the ability to generate new capital to the levels they needed cant happen with this current market..thus rendering them bankrupt...

now they got saved...seems like the good ol times still continue..
 
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DAMN READ THIS CAREFULLY, THE GOVERNMENT LET THEM BARROW MONEY SO THEY WOULD NOT GO UNDER, OVER TIME THEY WILL PAY THE MONEY BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT.
And herein lies the problem. The money goes from taxpayers, to the government, to AIG, then back to the government. The money should go back to the taxpayers with accrued interest and NONE of it should go to the government. Theyre out there living it up on our money and its money we're never gonna see agaiin.
 

kevp

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And herein lies the problem. The money goes from taxpayers, to the government, to AIG, then back to the government. The money should go back to the taxpayers with accrued interest and NONE of it should go to the government. Theyre out there living it up on our money and its money we're never gonna see agaiin.
Truth...fucked up thing is that nobody in this country has enough of a voice to make this point matter.
 
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Truth...fucked up thing is that nobody in this country has enough of a voice to make this point matter.
Not one single person, but the masses do. The fucked up thing is that the masses don't give a fuck enough to do anything about it.
 

FDS

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And herein lies the problem. The money goes from taxpayers, to the government, to AIG, then back to the government. The money should go back to the taxpayers with accrued interest and NONE of it should go to the government. Theyre out there living it up on our money and its money we're never gonna see agaiin.
well theoretically when we give them our taxes, they fund our federal programs. so im hoping when they do get paid back, they will have that money to continue funding our federal programs.
 
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well theoretically when we give them our taxes, they fund our federal programs. so im hoping when they do get paid back, they will have that money to continue funding our federal programs.
you know that aint gonna happen. We're gonna get taxed separately for those. This shit essentially hands the government our money for nothing. Welfare fraud, here I come. Fuck this shit.
 

WXS STOMP3R

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FUCKING BULLSHIT. I HOPE KARMA IS A BITCH. WHILE FAMILIES LOSE HOMES AND PEOPLE STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET. THESE FOOLS BLATANTLY GO AND BLOW DOUGH ON SOME BULLSHIT RIGHT AFTER THEY GET THE BAILOUT MONEY.

THATS LIKE A DOPEFIEND BLOWING ALL HIS LOOT, THEN TELLING YOU "I NEED SOME CASH SO I CAN COME BACK UP". SO YOU FRONT HIM THE MONEY BUT LATER ON YOU HEAR HE HAD A PARTY AT HIS PAD AND WAS DOING MOST THE DOPE WITH THE MONEY YOU FRONTED HIM.

KNOW MATTER HOW YOU PAINT IT. WE ARE STILL FUCKED. THIS BAIL OUT SCHEME PUT US FURTHER IN THE HOLE AND THE RICH GOT RICHER.
BUSINESS OR NOT THIS SITUATION IS FUCKED UP.
 

Dana Dane

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May 3, 2002
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your getting ready to buy a new hybrid while im car less, chillin eating top ramen... bail ME out
you act like I am gonna go out and pay cash for it...which I am not. IF, and that is a HUGE if, I get a new car, I will have to trade in the car I have (and still owe on) now, and pay a higher payment, on top of putting up a few grand down payment.

and for dinner last night, I mixed onions, hot links, tomato sauce, crystal and rice.....I do not even have any top ramen.
 

Dana Dane

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****pardon all the slashes, proxy issues***

I guess they are scared now:

Bailed Out AIG Cancels Half Moon Bay Meeting

UPDATED: 12:02 pm PDT October 9, 2008


HALF MOON BAY -- Still stinging from reprimands during Congressional hearings this week, financially bailed out American International Group Inc. has cancelled plans for lavish business conference at the exclusive Ritz-Carlton Resort in Half Moon Bay.

Word of the cancellation leaked out to the news media early Thursday. Company spokesman Nicholas Ashooh told Bloomberg Business News earlier this week that the event was to ``motivate and educate\'\' about 150 independent agents who sell AIG coverage to high-end clients.

A similar meeting drew the ire of congressmen after it was disclosed that AIG executives spent $440,000 on a posh Southern California retreat for its executives, complete with spa treatments, banquets and golf outings.

AIG sent its executives to the coastal St. Regis resort south of Los Angeles even as the company tapped into an $85 billion loan from the government it needed to stave off bankruptcy. The resort tab included $23,380 worth of spa treatments for AIG employees, according to invoices the resort turned over to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

The retreat didn\'t include anyone from the financial products division that nearly drove AIG under, but lawmakers still were enraged over thousands of dollars spent on outing for executives of AIG\'s main U.S. life insurance subsidiary.

\"Average Americans are suffering economically. They\'re losing their jobs, their homes and their health insurance,\" the committee\'s chairman, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., scolded the company during a lengthy opening statement at a hearing Tuesday. \"Yet less than one week after the taxpayers rescued AIG, company executives could be found wining and dining at one of the most exclusive resorts in the nation.\"

Former AIG CEO Robert Willumstad, who lost his job a day after the Federal Reserve put up the $85 billion on Sept. 16, said he was not familiar with the conference and would not have gone along with it.

\"It seems very inappropriate,\" Willumstad said in response to questioning from Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md.

\"Those executives should be fired,\" Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama said at a debate with Sen. John McCain on Tuesday, referring to the retreat participants. Obama also said AIG should give the Treasury $440,000 to cover the costs of the retreat.

But Eric Dinallo, superintendent of the New York State Insurance Department, said he could see the value of such a retreat under the circumstances.

\"Having been at large global companies and knowing what condition AIG was in ... the absolute worst thing that could have happened\" would have been for employees and underwriters in its life insurance subsidiary to flee the company.

\"I do agree there is some profligate spending there, but the concept of bringing all the major employees together ... to ensure that the $85 billion could be as greatly as possible paid back would have been not a crazy corporate decision,\" Dinallo told the House committee.

The hearing disclosed that AIG executives hid the full range of its risky financial products from auditors as losses mounted, according to documents released by the committee, which is examining the chain of events that forced the government to bail out the conglomerate.

The panel sharply criticized AIG\'s former top executives, who cast blame on each other for the company\'s financial woes.

\"You have cost my constituents and the taxpayers of this country $85 billion and run into the ground one of the most respected insurance companies in the history of our country,\" said Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. \"You were just gambling billions, possibly trillions of dollars.\"

AIG, crippled by huge losses linked to mortgage defaults, was forced last month to accept the $85 billion government loan that gives the U.S. the right to an 80 percent stake in the company.

Waxman unveiled documents showing AIG executives hid the full extent of the firm\'s risky financial products from auditors, both outside and inside the firm, as losses mounted.

For instance, federal regulators at the Office of Thrift Supervision warned in March that \"corporate oversight of AIG Financial Products ... lack critical elements of independence.\" At the same time, PricewaterhouseCoopers confidentially warned the company that the \"root cause\" of its mounting problems was denying internal overseers in charge of limiting AIG\'s exposure access to what was going on in its highly leveraged financial products branch.

Waxman also released testimony from former AIG auditor Joseph St. Denis, who resigned after being blocked from giving his input on how the firm estimated its liabilities.

Three former AIG executives were summoned to appear before the hearing. One of them, Maurice \"Hank\" Greenberg — who ran AIG for 38 years until 2005 — canceled his appearance citing illness but submitted prepared testimony. In it, he blamed the company\'s financial woes on his successors, former CEOs Martin Sullivan and Willumstad.

\"When I left AIG, the company operated in 130 countries and employed approximately 92,000 people,\" Greenberg said. \"Today, the company we built up over almost four decades has been virtually destroyed.\"

Sullivan and Willumstad, in turn, cast much of the blame on accounting rules that forced AIG to take tens of billions of dollars in losses stemming from exposure to toxic mortgage-related securities.
 
Sep 17, 2007
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wheres the Joker when we need him.

foreal tho. this is the type of shit that makes me wanna go to D.C. and start cappin off suckaz.