Ahmadinejad Interview

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Did anybody catch the Mike Wallace 60 Minutes interview with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? I was curious to see what some of your reactions and thought were. I thought he did a great job answering the questions as well as asking very thoughtful ones. There was a lot of filibustering, but that is an essential political strategy. Of course I have a biased opinion, so i wanted to see what you guys thought.

In case you didnt catch it heres the interview as well as Wallace's response.

Shortened Interview and Mike Wallace's Post-Interview Response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31fv4YMzwYU

Entire Full Length Interview
Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y75RJVHCnP8
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHI6590OyAQ
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64a45DQgvKc
 
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^^maybe...but then he wouldnt have ever been elected the president lol.
also that religious position puts him in a much better relation with the rest of the middle east and makes it much easier to be a main player in the conflict.
 
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damn Mike Wallace was harrassing him..

I think Ahmadinejad makes about 100 times more sense when he speaks than George W. The Western regime has been demonizing this man for so long, it was good to see him explain some of the statements he made that set a lot of people off, such as the "holocaust is a myth" business. However he does also seem somewhat evasive, especially about the touchier questions such as supplying Iraqi insurgents with bombs.

Interesting to me was when he said he didn't have a problem with Jews, but with Zionists. Ahmadinejad thinks that after the Holocaust, since it did happen in Germany, the Jewish nation should have been established there instead of in the center of the Arab world. However, from the Zionist perspective, the land of present-day Israel has enormous religious and cultural significance (a.k.a. the Promised Land), so Israel's insistence on choosing that land to make their home once again is not entirely unjustified.

I found myself agreeing with Ahmadinejad's beliefs and responses a lot more than I thought I would. I agree with him that Bush's regime is against Islam, but not necessarily from a theological standpoint. I believe Bush has fabricated an opposition of Islam for the purpose of exerting power and control. He has made the Arab world a scapegoat in order to justify occupation and eventual control of the region. Bush's idea of globalization is a completely Western world, and this is the first step.

Props for Ahmadinejad for standing up to the West and thanks for sharing the interview. My wife is from Iran (but doesn't really support the Iranian leadership) and she mentioned this interview but I never saw it.
 
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The guy's a kook, yes he's educated so what.... he wants to disseminate/eradicate western ideals, and have them replaced with an institutionalized fundamentalist political structure, check out this case currently going on over there, ain't it grand
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Ashraf Kolhari, an Iranian mother of four, has been sentenced to death for allegedly having sex outside of wedlock. Kolhari was given this brutal sentence for having an affair after the Iranian court system refused to grant her a divorce from her husband. The stoning could be carried out at any time.

According to the Islamic Republic of Iran's penal code, women must be buried up to their chest and stoned in a manner that increases the victim's suffering and prolongs her death. Stones are deliberately chosen so they will “not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes; nor should they be so small that they could not be defined as stones.” Eight other women in Iran reportedly await the same fate as Kolhari.
 
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JoMoDo said:
The guy's a kook, yes he's educated so what.... he wants to disseminate/eradicate western ideals
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So he opposes the West imposing their regime on the developing world, fabricating a "War on Terror" and using it as a stepping stone for a global government, and you think he's a kook for that? Get real. Ahmadinejad's approval rating in Iran is way higher than Bush's in the U.S. I think G.W. is just butt hurt that the CIA doesn't control Iran any more and he's doesn't like people or nations standing up to his bullying techniques.


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Ashraf Kolhari, an Iranian mother of four, has been sentenced to death for allegedly having sex outside of wedlock. Kolhari was given this brutal sentence for having an affair after the Iranian court system refused to grant her a divorce from her husband. The stoning could be carried out at any time.

According to the Islamic Republic of Iran's penal code, women must be buried up to their chest and stoned in a manner that increases the victim's suffering and prolongs her death. Stones are deliberately chosen so they will “not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes; nor should they be so small that they could not be defined as stones.” Eight other women in Iran reportedly await the same fate as Kolhari.
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I agree, that is totally fucked up. It is brutal, inhumane, and way overkill. But are you implying that our legal system is any better? Do you have any idea how many innocent people are sentenced to life in prison and EXECUTED every year because the U.S. court system is next to worthless?

http://www.truthinjustice.org/exoneration-study.htm

Try that for starters.
 
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when was that stoning thing??

cuz i go to iran all the time and i know a lot of hoes that have plenty of sex outside of wedlock...and they make their sexuality just as well known as women in america
theres a whole city thats the butt of every joke becuz their wives sleep around, im sure they dont all get brutally put to death.
iranian girls are by no means reserved or insecure....theyre bold, opinionated and independent, moreso than any other middle eastern country.
i mean ive been with girls there who have not been married and also know of girls who have cheated on their husbands and they have no fear of any risk of getting stoned to death.

maybe it is a law but it sounds faulty and i dont know how often something like that would happen. the islamic rupublic government did instill some crazy laws like that but its not a very common thing, maybe once every couple of years theyll make an example out of someone (those gay dudes).

i mean how could they even find out, if the husband snitched on his girl to see her get killed? thats the only way i could think of.
 
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^^^

It is currently an ongoing case, here a link to take 'online action' if interested. It acutally looks like it has been petioned and overturned, most likely b/c of the international attention it has rec'd...http://www.democracyinaction.org/di...ampaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=4953&t=template2.dwt

@ Slide, of course he's got higher approval rating in Iran than GW has in the US, Bush is a dip shit piece of iShhh too--- if I implied our 'criminal justice' system is flawless, that wasn't the intention---- I think it is also important to distinguish the difference between Western Ideals/Western Society/Western Civ vs. the Bush Admin's ideals.

I think Bush & Ahmadinejad are both kooks just on differnt ends of the spectrum...
 
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^ Yeah I agreed with you that the stonings are a real tragedy. Iran and a lot of other Muslim countries seem to have a long way to go when it comes to gender relations. You know damn well a man wouldn't get a death sentence for cheating on his wife.
 
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1st---I didn't read past the mention of the Jenin massacre, all that carnage was due to Hamas, learn about...

2nd---what's that got to do with topic at hand or the link I posted...
 
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JoMoDo said:
1st---I didn't read past the mention of the Jenin massacre, all that carnage was due to Hamas, learn about...
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Hamas

Leader Ismail Haniya
Founded 1987
Headquarters Gaza city
Political ideology Islamism, Nationalism, Religious Conservatism
International affiliation Syria
Website http://www.palestine-info.com/



notice how hed been killin shit wayyy before hamas even existed, unless you were just talkin about "jenin" which i dont think you are
 
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