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May 13, 2002
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God Damnit!!!! I HATE SEATTLE!

Human Waste Being Used In Fertilizer In Washington State


http://www.king5.com/detailtopstory.html?StoryID=9137
11-21-00

"The government does not require food grown in sludge to be labeled."

KING 5 TV Investigation: Grounds for Concern
11-20-0


SEATTLE - The waste that you flush down your toilet is being treated, processed into fertilizer, and spread on farms.

Known as sewage sludge, or biosolids, the mix is really processed human sewage, and each year, thousands of tons of it are spread on farms across the country, and right here in Washington.

In fact, biosolids are in big demand in the central part of the state.

At Boulder Park Farms in Douglas County, using biosolids has been a big success. Wheat grows taller and better than with traditional fertilizers. The wheat is turned into flour, which, in turn, we eat.

From sewage to fertilizer The sludge comes from the toilets and drains across Seattle, King County and other Western Washington cities.

At the state-of-the-art West Point Treatment Plant in Seattle, raw sewage is digested, heated and spun, until it's just right for shipment to the fields. "We make sure the products that we produce are of a very high quality," says West Point manager Dick Finger.

But even "very high quality" biosolids contain heavy metals and millions of pathogens, like human viruses, bacteria and parasites.

The Environmental Protection Agency and Washington's Department of Ecology say the metal content is low, and claim the soil will kill any remaining pathogens.

"Am I concerned about significant impacts to human health and the environment? No, not based on the information I've seen so far," says state Biosolids Coordinator Kyle Dorsey.

But that notion is being challenged by Cornell University researchers.

In "The Case for Caution," Ellen Harrison and a team from Cornell tore apart the EPA's assumptions about the safety of the sludge.

"If there was widespread use on a large area next door to me, I would be concerned," said Harrison.

Cornell found EPA's Cancer Risk Assessment is "not protective," and its enforcement and oversight is "inadequate." It also found that pathogens may survive in soil, especially in cool, wet conditions.

"In humid climates, it's not clear that even appropriate management practices will prevent the leaching of some of the viruses," Harrison said. "That really needs some serious attention."

Yet, the state allows sludge to be dumped in every county - including those in wet Western Washington - with no mandatory testing for pathogens once sludge is dumped.

Bob Thode spreads 22,000 wet tons of sludge over 600 acres at his Fire Mountain Farms in Lewis County. For that, he is paid more than $400,000 a year.

The sludge comes from Tacoma, Olympia, Fort Lewis and a half dozen other cities and counties.

Though Thode has had a permit suspended, has been written up for "leaking" and "spilling" sludge "everywhere" and dropping sludge on the road, he calls himself an environmentalist. "We believe this is part of the environmental answer," he says.

Neighbors call him something else.

"I think he is a disposer - not a farmer," says neighbor Hans Butschun.

"It's like flushing a toilet. It all washes downstream to us," said Suzanne Butschun.

"I know that he was a farmer, but not after he found out about sludge," says neighbor Merrily Knutsen.

Lincoln Creek runs through the middle of some of Thode's land, and it often floods. The KING 5 Investigators recently obtained a photo of a piece of equipment used to spread sludge, in the water. Yet Thode says no sludge has ever gotten off his land, because he uses buffer zones around the creeks, ditches and wetlands.

But at one of Thode's sites, Lewis County found "buffer area application" of biosolids and "runoff . directly into the creek."

When asked by KING 5 Chief Investigator Duane Pohlman whether he had ever made mistakes, Thode responded, "Oh yeah . but I don't think we ever made a mistake we can't control."

Thode says his tests show the sludge didn't make it to the water, but he's the only one doing the testing.

In fact, the EPA and state leave the testing to those who produce the sludge, and those who apply it.

"Thode does the testing," Butschun said, "therefore, we have no confidence."

Even the chairs of the Republican and Democratic parties in Lewis County have found common ground on this issue.

"I certainly don't think it's safe for Lewis County," said Bob Guenther, chairman of the Democratic Central Committee.

"Right now, Bob's doing the inspection," said Ron Averill, chairman of the Lewis County Republican Party, "and I think people have a right to be concerned about that."


KING 5 test results

So the KING 5 Investigators decided to look for themselves. They tested the sediment in the ditch that flows from a site where Thode is licensed to spread sludge. The ditch was tested in 1994, before sludge was applied to the land upstream.

Butschun collected that original sample in 1994, and the KING 5 Investigators asked him to collect another one last month, in the exact spot.

Metal Parts per million in 1994: Lithium 4.33 Magnesium 1750.00 Aluminum 14400.00 Phosphorous 351.00 Titanium 6.21 Chromium 24.20 Barium 97.60

Parts per million in 2000: Lithium 16.00 Magnesium 7000.00 Aluminum 33000.00 Phosphorous 930.00 Titanium 1200.00 Chromium 57.00 Barium 150.00



As you can see, the amounts of aluminum, chromium and phosphorous have doubled. Lithium and magnesium have quadrupled, and the level of titanium is nearly 200 times what it was six years ago.

As a matter of fact, those numbers were so high, that when the KING 5 Investigators gave them to Dorsey, the head of the state's Biosolids program, he thought we had tested pure sludge - not the sediment in the ditch that wasn't supposed to contain it.

While our test is not conclusive, it has raised serious questions, and the state says more comprehensive testing may be needed.

As for the food that's grown in sludge, there are no clear answers. The plants do absorb metals in the sludge, and Cornell claims the EPA underestimated how much they absorb, and what we really end up eating.

The government does not require food grown in sludge to be labeled.

http://www.rense.com/general5/nasty.htm
 
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That is fucking foul, and if i'm gonna have to eat shit-infested veggies those fucks might as well start payin me for my turds.


It's one thing to eat vegetables fertilized with cow shit, I mean all cow's do is eat grass...much better than eating some shit thats been tainted with 211,hotdogs,fried chicken,and bologne.
 
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I wouldn't give a fuck if they grew corn out of a rat's asshole. If it tastes good it tastes good.
 
May 8, 2002
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How did I know you would some how defend this?!?!
i am not defending it. i am just stating/asking what is the difference between cow shit/horse shit/human shit????

is there a big difference???

i mean i see how it can make a persons stomach turn and make one lose their appetite, but well i dont know to me shit is shit.
 
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i am not defending it. i am just stating/asking what is the difference between cow shit/horse shit/human shit????

is there a big difference???

i mean i see how it can make a persons stomach turn and make one lose their appetite, but well i dont know to me shit is shit.
Because man, some people are filthier than animals....
:rolleyes:
 
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Are you an idiot or did you not read the article?

Let me point out a few statements since the entire article is too much for you to read.



"Cornell found EPA's Cancer Risk Assessment is "not protective," and its enforcement and oversight is "inadequate." It also found that pathogens may survive in soil, especially in cool, wet conditions. "

***Cool and wet conditions*** That IS Washington.

"Yet, the state allows sludge to be dumped in every county - including those in wet Western Washington - with no mandatory testing for pathogens once sludge is dumped. "

***NO MANDATORY TESTING*** "biosolids contain heavy metals and millions of pathogens, like human viruses, bacteria and parasites. " ***NO TESTING***

"Lincoln Creek runs through the middle of some of Thode's land, and it often floods. The KING 5 Investigators recently obtained a photo of a piece of equipment used to spread sludge, in the water. Yet Thode says no sludge has ever gotten off his land, because he uses buffer zones around the creeks, ditches and wetlands.

But at one of Thode's sites, Lewis County found "buffer area application" of biosolids and "runoff . directly into the creek."

***In fact, the EPA and state leave the testing to those who produce the sludge, and those who apply it. ***

Hmmm, the testing is left to the companies that produce the sludge, huh?

***KING 5 TEST***
"Metal Parts per million in 1994: Lithium 4.33 Magnesium 1750.00 Aluminum 14400.00 Phosphorous 351.00 Titanium 6.21 Chromium 24.20 Barium 97.60

Parts per million in 2000: Lithium 16.00 Magnesium 7000.00 Aluminum 33000.00 Phosphorous 930.00 Titanium 1200.00 Chromium 57.00 Barium 150.00 "

As you can see, the amounts of aluminum, chromium and phosphorous have doubled. Lithium and magnesium have quadrupled, and the level of titanium is nearly 200 times what it was six years ago.

*****As for the food that's grown in sludge, there are no clear answers. The plants do absorb metals in the sludge, and Cornell claims the EPA underestimated how much they absorb, and what we really end up eating. *****


Your a fucking dipshit Mclean. You fucking eat shit
 
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"Cornell found EPA's Cancer Risk Assessment is "not protective," and its enforcement and oversight is "inadequate."
as opposed to dangerous-toxic, i guess things could be worse

2-0-Sixx said:
It also found that pathogens may survive in soil, especially in cool, wet conditions. "
so are you saying pathogens arent an issue if you use horse shit/cow shit??

2-0-Sixx said:
***NO MANDATORY TESTING*** "biosolids contain heavy metals and millions of pathogens, like human viruses, bacteria and parasites. " ***NO TESTING***
does cow shit contain heavy metals and millions of pathogens live livestock virus, bacteria, and parasites???

2-0-Sixx said:
***KING 5 TEST***
"Metal Parts per million in 1994: Lithium 4.33 Magnesium 1750.00 Aluminum 14400.00 Phosphorous 351.00 Titanium 6.21 Chromium 24.20 Barium 97.60

Parts per million in 2000: Lithium 16.00 Magnesium 7000.00 Aluminum 33000.00 Phosphorous 930.00 Titanium 1200.00 Chromium 57.00 Barium 150.00 "

As you can see, the amounts of aluminum, chromium and phosphorous have doubled. Lithium and magnesium have quadrupled, and the level of titanium is nearly 200 times what it was six years ago.
are they so high that they are at a toxic level???

2-0-Sixx said:
*****As for the food that's grown in sludge, there are no clear answers.
thank you!!! no proof of nothing

2-0-Sixx said:
The plants do absorb metals in the sludge, and Cornell claims the EPA underestimated how much they absorb, and what we really end up eating. *****
so are we absorbing the same metals that were in our body to begin with????
 
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Your replies did absolutely NOTHING.

YOU ARE defending HUMAN WASTE being dumped on our farm lands. That is very sick of you.

It doesnt matter what the article is, or what the topic is about. If it appears to be "against" the government or what this country is doing you will DEFEND them, no matter what.

I bet if you saw this exact article exept it was talking about Cuba or communist China, you would post it here saying how fucked up the commies are.

Your a piece of shit, str8 up.

I'm tired of argueing with you. You will never get a fucking clue.

This is really the tip of the iceberg, defending HUMAN WASTE on farm lands. You disgust me.