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miggidy · Dec 22, 2002

Yo chill 2-0-sixx,

I never said Capitalism was good LOL!
It's bad, but not as bad as comunism.
I think every form of government is bad, I think I stated that earlier.

Bro, I fully understand what you are talking about.
Every form of government is evil because the concept of government is evil itself.
Why? Because man kind is wicked.
We're only after money and power....

miggidy · Dec 22, 2002

ReservoirDog said:

****Putting my surgical gloves on****

Why not teach natural creation?
For the same reason you cannot teach special creation!
Why can't we teach both of them?
This is the only way to find the truth, but the government has outlawd the teaching special creation.
What are you afraid of? The truth?
Come on! What's the problem?

What flaws in the bible?
Please do point them out to me because I'm sure that you are no different than everyone before you who's accused the bible of being flawd.
Everyone, including AmericanAtheist.com and
Answering-Christianity.com have been proven wrong!
And most of the alleged flaws are a result of ignorance in the part of those who make them up.
So bring it!

Why should Christians be afraid of the heavely flawed theory of evolution? It has more holes than Swiss cheese!
Human history should be taught in school and not in church.
God is a theory of our creation and should be taught in school, next to the theory of evolution.
Again, what are you afraid of????
Are you afriad that your atheist child might become Christian????

Seperation of Church and state.
I bet you don't even know what that means!
Our school children aren't being taught the complete story of our creation! The God theory hasn't been disproven,
but yet the idea has been thrown out the window.
Just like communist Russia, the US government slowly wants to remove the idea of God from us.
But just like Russia, the government will fail.
Whether you want to believe it or not, Atheism is a religion.
And our government is forcing it on us subconsciously.
It's an illegal act and they are getting away with it, but it's coo....
We knew this day would come..........

I repeat, Evolution is the theory against God....

PS.... You are a perfect example of a student under US law.
Your comments show the result of being mislead by the educational system established by the brood of vipers....

miggidy · Dec 22, 2002

n9newunsixx5150 said:

Then why is it the weapon that Atheists use against the theory of God?
Darwin admitted himself that it was just a theory.
But yet you have legions of Atheists who cling on to it like solid proof against God.

No, generally speaking it isn't the theory against God.
But to an Athiest, it is........

And if you do not believe we're being pushed into believing against God then peep my reply to res.....
I know you know better than that.
But it's a fact that only natural creation is being taught in schools.
Special creation hasn't been ruled out yet.
It makes perfect sense to continue studying it since our greatest minds believed in it, Einstein and Newton....

BaSICCally · Dec 22, 2002

I can't give you concise numbers on each individual question. I will agree with miggidy in saying that it is not America making everyone poor. It is the government. Do not look at America as the suppressor to the world's problems. America is not that bad of place. Don't concentrate on the bad but look at what America offers that no other country can.

Since America was born how many countries became poor? I am not sure. America is realtively a young country. Poverty existed way before America was born.
I know fro 1600 to 1850 the Native American population went from 2.5 million to 200,000. This was because "displacement from lands, consequent starvation; widespread killing in "war" and cold blooded murder account for the sudden drop"(Aguire and Turner). Not because of capitalism or communism. But because of land hungry white people.

Since America was born how many people died or came poor? Who knows a lot. But I know millions and millions of people died for the freedom in which we take for granted and suffered through poverty and starvation. America cannot be blamed for other countries poverty.
How many imigrants flee their countries to escape their country and come into America?
How many imigrants came into America with nothing but their shirts on their backs and nothing but a dream? but now live well above the poverty line in America?

I have a friend who lived in Russia, before and after the fall of communism. He told me about how life in Russia was and how much better life in America is compared to in Russia.

What country would you rather live in then America?

2-0-Sixx · Dec 22, 2002

@basically,

I think its essential to focus on the bad things in order to make things better for the future. I am suggesting that MOST of the world troubles are a result of america. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the world we live in is a fucked up place. I strongly believe america is headed in the wrong direction and because of this, so is the rest of the world.

I asked those questions to demonstrate a point. america isn’t this superior kingdom that assists the inhabitants of this planet. In fact, it is the opposite. Every decision America makes is for the reason that it benefits us, meaning money.

Don’t get me wrong; there are a lot of things I love about this country. I love the fact that it is a melting pot society, the fact that we have rights to do what we want. (Although some might argue that our rights are rapidly disappearing). There are many other things in addition. And sure, things are well for plenty of citizens living in this country. That’s not the point. I don’t believe america is good for this planet in the long run.

I bet his life was bad at that time; I never said it was good. I'm sure this friend of yours is not that old. Like I've said on other threads, Russia fucked up. I know it was a fucked up place to live in at the end. There are loads of reasons why Russia collapsed, one of those being they drifted away from communism.

I couldn’t tell ya. I have talked to people on the net from all over the world. Many have claimed where they live is better then the U.S. I couldn’t give you my opinion unless I tried living somewhere else.

I'm sure a lot of people will think I hate america. I don’t hate america, I am against what we are doing and where we are headed. I think we need to make some serious changes and fast.

BaSICCally · Dec 23, 2002

I see where you are comming from. I just feel as a whole America is by far the superior country.(I am not saying Americans but America). I just have to much pride to show any disrespect(not saying you are). I just know my relatives died for my family as well as this country. So I try not to disresepect the tradition or the culture. What little I know about it.
As we all know though what goes up must come down. America as an empire has been going strong for quite some time. It is bound to fall some day and as you have noticed it is already starting to happen. Change is inevitable. It is going to take a long time but America is going to loose some of it's glory eventually. I just don't see it happening any time soon. Bush will be gone soon. Sooner the better. You never know when the next president will change the course of America.

I have talked to people from other countries even lived with their families for awhile. I didn't hear them once complain about America. Mabey only because they came from third world countries. Still they loved America and everything it represented.

n9newunsixx5150 · Dec 23, 2002

@miggidy

Only a foolish atheist thinks he has proven fact against God with evolution. What we must do is transcend these arguments which hold no truth in the absolute. It is very highly possible that the idea of evolution and creationism fit together. I believe in God undoubtedly yet I still see the evolution theory to be true, at least as far as I can perceive it in my reality. Also, maybe it seems we are being pushed toward believing solely in evolution. But, those who know better will not conform to a half-wise idea. I am not to say that evolution is wrong. Just that to believe in it solely as our fundamental idea for existence is idiotic.
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@2-0-Sixx

It really isn't essential to focus on the bad things, especially to perceive them as "bad things". The result of doing this is....... "bad things". I understand the purpose of learning from our past mistakes. But, lets not focus so much on the bad things. Rather, realizing our shortcomings, lets focus on the opposite endeavor. Focusing on the good counterpart to what we perceive as "bad" will help us grow as people. We fall and we get back up. We don't focus on the fall everyday, otherwise we fall yet again.
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HERESY · Dec 23, 2002

I SUGGEST YOU LEARN ABOUT THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND THE WORLD CONSERVATION BANK BEFORE YOU MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT AGAIN.

:h:

miggidy · Dec 23, 2002

n9newunsixx5150 said:

I can live with that, and I see that you are an open minded person. I mean who's to say evolution isn't one of God's laws?

I agree with you though, we need to keep an open mind since we know so little about our own creation....

miggidy · Dec 23, 2002

And one thing, the Islamic world sees America as the responsable one for influencing the rest of the world.

I can see why they feel this way.
I don't know if any of you guys have visited other countries.
But we do influence a lot of foreign people.
Every where I've been, Mexico, Honk Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, and Malaysia;
I can see American influence everywhere....

n9newunsixx5150 · Dec 23, 2002

You've been a lot of places, miggidy. You wouldn't happen to be in the military would you?

Fawg · Dec 23, 2002

Jesus Christ

Everyone get it fiqured out.

DAMN

~Fawg

miggidy · Dec 24, 2002

n9newunsixx,

Naw bro, just touring....
Well my son was born overseas and is staying with his mom in Malaysia. I've been out there to go see him about a couple of times so I've stopped by a few places in the way.
I've yet to go see the Philipines and Thailand.... Can't wait.

I've seen it all bro.
Asian folks tryin to be rappers, rappin in their native languages.
They love our movies and even follow our fads.
Seriously, the world feeds off the US.
Just like the rap genre feeds off Northern Cali.

And I won't even mention Mexico, we're neighbors....

You know what's a trip though?
The average Muslim has a negative view of the US.
They only see our negativity.
Someone is literately brainwashing these people....
I wish American Muslims would stand up for us though.
They need to let their brothers understand that the American people are cool people. And nothing like the snakes at the top....

Al-Kaholik · Dec 24, 2002

I actually heard about a fundamentalist muslim that said some of the nicest people in the world are americans, and that it's the government that gives the rest of us a bad name.

Viet Loc · Dec 27, 2002

n9newunsixx5150 said:

There's no concrete evidence or satisfactory theory that proves that God exists. Because nobody knows entirely whether God does or does not exist, does not justify one to assume that there is an all-powerful being (God)

Viet Loc · Dec 27, 2002

n9newunsixx5150 said:

@miggidy

Only a foolish atheist thinks he has proven fact against God with evolution. What we must do is transcend these arguments which hold no truth in the absolute. It is very highly possible that the idea of evolution and creationism fit together. I believe in God undoubtedly yet I still see the evolution theory to be true, at least as far as I can perceive it in my reality. Also, maybe it seems we are being pushed toward believing solely in evolution. But, those who know better will not conform to a half-wise idea. I am not to say that evolution is wrong. Just that to believe in it solely as our fundamental idea for existence is idiotic.

What are your arguments against evolution?

You think God was responsible for the 'big bang'?

n9newunsixx5150 · Dec 27, 2002

@Viet Loc

welcome to the conversation but you haven't been paying attention. I never said I had arguments against evolution. Why must it be one or the other when niether are on the same level to argue?? I don't deny evolution. Just as an atheist falls trying to deny creation with evolution.

miggidy · Dec 28, 2002

Viet Loc,

Didn't the Hubbel space telescope prove the Big Bang theory incorrect?

Goes to show how wrong scientific theories can be, and yet they teach them at school and people interpret them as evidence....

Viet Loc · Dec 28, 2002

@miggidy

I don't have a clue about any Hubble Telescope incident.
The 'big bang' theory still holds credibility among many in the science field. It's still taught in science courses and philosophy courses here at state.

FrayZ · Dec 29, 2002

aight ima put mah .89 cents in dis bitch...first off if u cats say u dont believe in god and aftalife and shit...why u accept the label of "athiest" that those people put on you?? im a non-religious. i think religion was created, like government, to help control and manipulate the masses. secondly if people "bring to your attention" things and now your going around telling others that "i respect wut u believe, but know theres no afterlife" then ur a fuccin idiot. if that person wouldnt have told u some shit then u'd be the dumbass gettin stepped on. i really dont give a fucc if theres an afterlife or a god or not, cuz ima do mah damn thang and deal wit da shit if it is there. but i hate people who say one or another their belief is right...give me one fuccin thing to prove either way?? u cant...some of it is some flyin around ghostly bullshit and some of it is some scientific shit either way why the fucc does it mattah..do wut u do wheather its "right" or "wrong"..and now dat i've said this im going to move into some other part of this...as an athiest you guys pretend that your smarter more away of shit...aight then why do u follow laws?? exactly..ima tell u str8 up, ima do wut evah da fucc i wanna do kill, rob, lie, cheat, kick ya grandma i dont give a fucc....its SOCIETY who tells me dis shits "wrong"..yea it may be wrong to them but its not to me so dats all dat counts..i say if ur a dumb fucc messin up lives den im takin urs, u dont deserve it. secondly, if u motha fuccas are so ENLIGHTENED tell me this...cannibalism is out lawed in almost every government..now tell me the difference in slaughtering a cow and a human?? without the religion to tell u its wrong(thou shall not kill..yet howed i get a hamburger?)..well wut they really meant is dont kill people right?? haha fucc dat..we eat to survive..so wuts da difference between HUMAN flesh and BEEF?? nada..so if ur so fuccin enlightened how da hell do u look down upon me fo' sayin i will EAT you?? aight den, now if u wanna come wit some ENLIGHTENED shit im down fo' it...i aint had no body evah tell me notin..its called THINKING ON YOUR OWN...aight well ima leave dis too da board to talk about cuz im thru wit it

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