A "Giant" Oversight

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A Giant oversight
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
September 15, 2005

For three days they have clapped and called and cared for BALCO Barry Bonds, the wine and sushi crowds of the San Francisco Giants' SBC Park pretty much eliminating the hope that this could be a new era of baseball fan, where lying, cheating and "flaxseeds" could be significant enough that you'd boo even your own guy.

It seemed possible, at least after Baltimore Orioles fans honored themselves by giving their dishonored one-time hero, Rafael Palmeiro, so much hell for taking steroids and lying about it that – between the ear plugs and the disabled list – his career isn't just a joke, it's about over.

Now that was impressive. They showed they were baseball fans, not just Orioles fans.

Baltimore's treatment of Palmeiro didn't impact Giants fans one bit. They spent the week providing standing ovations for BALCO Barry in his first plate appearances since his leaked grand jury testimony ended the worst kept suspicion in sports: that his epic power boom came only after he had taken performance-enhancing drugs.

Instead of calling him a fraud, they chanted his name like he was Ted Williams returning from the war.

Perhaps San Francisco is full of the most naive bumpkins in America, people who actually believe BALCO Barry's parsed-word explanation that while, yes, he did use the cream and the clear – which federal prosecutors said contained steroids – he did it unknowingly.

We certainly forgive those people. Politically correct that we are, we have nothing against imbeciles.

But anyone else should be ashamed for lovingly hailing the return of their pathetic slugger in hopes of getting back into the pathetic NL West race.

Not that they are alone. BALCO Barry isn't the first or even remotely close to the worst athlete to be greeted with cheers. In sports, there are generally two categories of dead-beat athletes, them and us.

We aren't even talking about the love-to-hate athletes – a Dennis Rodman, a Randy Moss or a Danny Ainge. Sports fans have cheered wife beaters, drug dealers, racists and murder defendants as long as they play on the home team.

Balco Barry is just a cheat. He isn't a hardened criminal.

And Giants fans aren't alone in their poor response to the steroid era. On opening day, New York Yankees fans, who proudly consider themselves both the most demanding and sophisticated in baseball, gave Jason Giambi a louder and longer ovation than Derek Jeter. It was only when Giambi started batting Nicole Richie's weight that the catcalls came.

And now it is back to cheers in the Bronx, even though no thinking person can look at Giambi's season and not wonder if around May, while faced with a life in the minors, Giambi figured, "What the heck? I might as well go down syringing," and suddenly became Mickey Mantle again.

With Mark McGwire set to make a rare public appearance during the Busch Stadium finale in October, St. Louis Cardinals fans will have the chance to show whether all of that "St. Louis is America's best baseball town" is real or just a marketing concept.

Some of this goodwill, of course, is fine. We all make mistakes. We are a forgiving nation. We appreciate the second chance. It is only baseball.

But it is also only boos.

Besides, BALCO Barry has never apologized for anything. He never said he was sorry that Giants fans were duped into believing in that silly home run chase. He never apologized for all the lies.

This is a guy, after all, who sat next to his own godfather, Willie Mays, on the day he tied the Giants' all-time classiest and greatest player on the home run list, and acted like they were equals. He knowingly smiled and let Willie make a fool of himself by defending BALCO Barry from the critics.

It takes a special kind of person to do that to his godfather.

So there was hope that Giants fans would be disgusted the way fans in every other ball park in America surely will. They'd give BALCO Barry at least one at-bat of fury, one moment of reality check, one on-deck circle of anger.

Something. Anything.

They didn't. They cheered and stomped and false idol-worshipped. They waved rubber chickens and only booed when San Diego Padres pitchers looked at this chemical robot built to hit balls into San Francisco Bay and smartly pitched around him.

They gave BALCO Barry all the support he never earned and would never reciprocate.

Too bad. In Baltimore, the fans were so smart and so strong. They saw a fraud and they called him out, home whites be damned.

At least one town gets it.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports' national columnist. Send him a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
 
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Dan Wetzel is an East Coast writer so I doubt that he likes the A's or the Giants or the Dodgers or any West Coast team. That's just how most baseball fans feel outside of Giants fans.
 
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herm96 said:
THATS WHAT IM SAYING, IF U SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CANSECO OR MCGWIRE HE SAYS SOMETHING LIKE: THE A'S WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAYS.
That makes absolutely no sense.
BigE916WRM said:
5-16 with 2 Homers after a year off. Give the guy credit.
Credit for using performance enhancing drugs that aren't tested for in MLB's drug testing. What a guy. He's an inspiration to us all.
 
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G-Dubb said:
Credit for using performance enhancing drugs that aren't tested for in MLB's drug testing. What a guy. He's an inspiration to us all.
Fuckin waaa-waaaa...705 and counting you beezy.
705 career HRs
232 walks single season
73 HRs single season
8 HRs single post season
7 MVPs
# of failed drug tests : 0
 
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Yeah, because steroids really improve hand-eye coordination.. :rolleyes:

The guy is good, it's that simple.

If he's an East Coast Writer, he may be a Yankee Fan, and Yankee fans hate Bonds because he's going to beat -out the overrated Babe Ruth. Who was definitely a great role-model for kids.
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
# of failed drug tests : 0
Of course, they don't test for what he's been using.

Dayn Perry said it best:

"I’m dismayed, but not surprised, to see Giant fans full-throatedly cheering Bonds on now that he’s returned. They probably see themselves as being nobly defiant, giving hard-won support to a beleaguered and wronged pariah; I see them as being willfully ignorant or perhaps wittingly valuing their own entertainment over notions of competitive integrity. That’s not something any good baseball fan should be a part of."
 
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Of course, they don't test for what he's been using.

Dayn Perry said it best:

"I’m dismayed, but not surprised, to see Giant fans full-throatedly cheering Bonds on now that he’s returned. They probably see themselves as being nobly defiant, giving hard-won support to a beleaguered and wronged pariah; I see them as being willfully ignorant or perhaps wittingly valuing their own entertainment over notions of competitive integrity. That’s not something any good baseball fan should be a part of."
"Competitive integrity"???? That fool doesn't know shit about sports. Every player in every sport is out to win, even if they have to break a rule to do it. Players look for edges every way they can, be it through supplements, to peaking in at the catcher to try and steal a sign, players have been doing it for ever, and it will never stop...MJ was the face of the NBA, the "golden child" if you will. Now, did he push off on Russell to hit the shot and beat the Jazz, fuck yeah he did. Speaking of the Jazz, John Stockton was one of the best PGs ever, and that fool was grimy as fuck on the court. There's no competitive integrity, there is winning and losing, and that's how it's always been, even back to when pitchers threw the spitter, you think no ones throwing spitters now? Come on, be real. I'm gonna root for Barry until the wheels fall off, even if he ends up DHing for an AL team.
 
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Most Giants fans think it's ok for players to cheat and will cheer for cheaters. Most Giants fans aren't baseball fans.

Baseball fans want to see cheaters get caught and punished.
 
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G-Dubb said:
Most Giants fans think it's ok for players to cheat and will cheer for cheaters. Most Giants fans aren't baseball fans.

Baseball fans want to see cheaters get caught and punished.
Someone's living in fucking la-la land where the gumdrop fairy will grant all your wishes, and every sports hero is a squeaky clean chior boy...sorry mayne, but welcome to reality, if you think that the __________(your team here) isn't full of players doing something to gain an edge, even by breaking the rules, then you are lost. Fans like you don't really want to know the truth, you just see Barry, hate Barry. The truth of the matter is, is that if you really knew what was going on you'd understand that everyone has the same edge. Just accept the fact that that fool Barry is stupid at the plate, and noone can do it better, period....706 and counting beezys.
 
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G-Dubb said:
That makes absolutely no sense.

Credit for using performance enhancing drugs that aren't tested for in MLB's drug testing. What a guy. He's an inspiration to us all.
THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT :

Originally Posted by herm96
the giants would have a world series ring(1989) if CANSECO WASNT ON STERIODS.

POSTED BY G-DUBB:

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?p=1589639#post1589639

Sorry, Canseco's 3 RBI's in the World Series were a non-factor. He hit a 3-run HR in Game 3 which the A's won 13-7 anyway... So take him out and theoretically it's 10-7.

Dave Stewart (89 World Series MVP) and Mike Moore completely shut down the Giants, that's why the A's won the World Series in 1989.

Stewart in the 89 Series:
2-0, 16 IP, 1.69 ERA (Including a Game 1 shutout)

Moore in the 89 Series:
2-0, 13 IP, 2.08 ERA

The only guy the Giants really scored any runs against was Gene Nelson, who was only brought in to two games because they were blowouts. Otherwise, the Giants were completely overmathed the entire series.



...Anyway, who's to say no Giants were using roids?!