53 Lebanese killed by Israeli missiles

[2-0-Sixx]

I wonder how anyone can justify what Israel is doing. The fighters of Hezbollah are in the south and Israel hasn't sent a single tank there. Instead they destroyed the civilian airport, bridges, power plants, TV stations and killed innocent civilians.

We all know that they have a strong army and the most advanced weapons that Amerika can buy, so any rational solution is negotiation, such as exchanging the two Israeli soldiers for the release of Lebanese political prisoners, but obviously Israel is not and never was interested in their Soldiers lives, they are intersted in War, which appears is what they're going to get (see Hezbollah: We're ready for 'open war'

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Beirut international airport has been among the targets of the Israeli bombers.

The bombardment has come from the sea as well as the air.

 

[surcaliman]

but didnt Hezbollah kidnapp 1 israeli soldier first before isreal started bombing them?but instead of releaseing him,they kidnapped 2 more.looks like Hezbollah aint worried about negotiations or lebanese civilians getting killed.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

but didnt Hezbollah kidnapp 1 israeli soldier first before isreal opened a can of woopass,and instead of releaseing him,they kidnapped 2 more.looks like Hezbollah aint worried about negotiations or lebanese civilians getting killed.

Actually, a small Palestinian Militant group kidnapped 1 Israeli soldier. Israel responded by blaming Hamas (which denied having any involvement), bombed Gaza, blew up their power supplies (they are living with no power or a basic sewage system), and killing innocent people.

A small militant group (Hezbollah) kidnapped a couple soldiers, and Israel responds by blaming the Lebanese government (which denied having any knowledge), bombing a civilian airport, TV stations, etc.

Where is the logic?

It’s like if a small, irrelevant, radical group in California killed a Chinese dude, and China turns around and bombs the whitehouse.

But that's not the point. The issue is not about the israeli soldiers, isreal does not care about there well being, they are using this as an excuse to wage war.

 

[surcaliman]

But that's not the point. The issue is not about the israeli soldiers, isreal does not care about there well being, they are using this as an excuse to wage war

u would think palestinian militants would know this and not go around provoking such actions...but thats not the point.the point is that the militants do know such actions would be taken by israel and still did what they did,not giving a fuck about how their own people would suffer...but then again,these are people who believe in martyrdom...so.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

u would think palestinian militants would know this and not go around provoking such actions...but thats not the point.the point is that the militants do know such actions would be taken by israel and still did what they did,not giving a fuck about how their own people would suffer...but then again,these are people who believe in martyrdom...so.

Even if the militants are to blame for kidnapping one israeli soldier, does that justify the killings of palestinians, blowing up their power supplies, etc.?

 

[surcaliman]

^^its 3 so far and no it dont justify it..but these 2 groups will never live in peace side by side..so i say let em go all out and see who comes out on top.once and for all.

 

[JoMoDo]

I have yet to find anything on the site that cold blooded listed that has to do with Jesus, Jews for Jesus and messianic judaism. Can you please explain how his link is aka jews for jesus and messianic jews?

No I can’t. I was mistaken, it was a knee jerk reaction when I briefly scanned the thread before leaving for work. I came back, read through the links, and withdraw my initial statement. They are a bunch of wacko’s IMO, but I’m sure others feel the same way about me… a great book, which later became a movie that delves into this topic is The Chosen

Actually, a small Palestinian Militant group kidnapped 1 Israeli soldier. Israel responded by blaming Hamas (which denied having any involvement), bombed Gaza, blew up their power supplies (they are living with no power or a basic sewage system), and killing innocent people.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46594
Hamas has admitted its roll…, and it is not a small Palastinian Militant group, it is a large, well trained, well conntected, and technologically advanced (for its funds) terrorist organization who is less commited to peace than Israel

But that's not the point. The issue is not about the israeli soldiers, isreal does not care about there well being, they are using this as an excuse to wage war.

The last thing Israel wants is war, it is just beginning to thrive economically since the end of the last intifada and the tourism market was making a comeback. People want to live in a peaceful coexistance with out having to worry about getting blown up on a bus. Israel is less than 12,000 sq. miles, thus, every citizen is a potential victim.

Although, I agree and there is no denying the retaliation is disproportionate, it is for the legitimate protection of Israeli civilians…. The Israeli gov’t, people, and soldiers all know and believe, that if one Israeli is at risk then they are all… Unless you see it first hand the bond & love they have for eachother is genuine...

Not once in this thread has anyone shunned none the less mentioned the over 100 rockets launched into over 6 different cities in N. Israel, which have killed dozens and injured 100’s of innocent civilians, or the over 700,000 who now have to live life knowing where the closed bomb shelter is? Not once in this thread has anyone mentioned the Lebanese civilians outcry for Hezbollah’s premeditated strikes on Israel and cries for Hezbollah to stop.
Not once has it been mentioned that the prisoners that Hamas & Hezbollah want released are terrorists. Women and children are willing to blow (or help others blow) themselves up. Should they be free to just go 'exploding' people, should these homocide bombers (and their assistants) have the right to do as they please without penalty?

As in life, it always takes two to tango…
All I know is that I can't stop praying for peace and an end to this violence

 

[shoowilla]

Bassam Aridi, a reporter with the Lebanese TV station NEW TV, receives medical attention in Al Najda hospital in Nabatieh, south Lebanon July 12, 2006, following Israeli air strikes.

A man examines a damaged ambulance along the Zahrani road connecting Beirut to south Lebanon, July 12, 2006, following Israeli air strikes.

Beirut, LEBANON: Destroyed cars and damages from homes lie in ruins after being hit by early morning Israeli air strikes on the Hezbollah-stronghold suburb of Dahyieh, 14 July 2006. The Israeli offensive against Lebanon continued for the third day targeting bridges, main roads and urban areas in the outskirts of Beirut

Beirut, LEBANON: A Lebanese family looks at the damages caused by early morning Israeli air strikes

 

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Bush Refuses to Press Israel for Truce

President Bush says he enjoys a "solid friendship" with Russian President Vladimir Putin, despite differences over Israel, Iraq, trade, human rights and a host of other issues. The two are trying to resolve those differences in face-to-face meetings ahead of a summit of global powers here.

Bush and Putin were meeting Saturday to discuss the many crises shaking the world, after a more relaxed barbecue dinner Friday night with their wives at a government-owned villa. The two leaders planned a joint news conference Saturday.

The U.S. and Russian presidents - along with the leaders of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Japan - are gathering for the annual Group of Eight economic summit, which begins Saturday night and continues through Monday. This is Russia's first year as host.

The recent violence between Israel and Hezbollah militants in Lebanon is a late but unavoidable addition to the agenda.

Bush refused Friday to pressure Israel for a cease-fire. He called on the leaders of Egypt and Jordan to explore ways to end three days of furious fighting.

But the White House signaled skepticism about a cease-fire plea from Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora. "The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel," said White House press secretary Tony Snow, saying it was unlikely that Israel or Hezbollah would agree to a cease-fire now.

That put Bush at odds with Putin and several other G-8 members who have criticized Israel's attacks and called for just such a cease-fire.

Putin called Friday on all sides in the Middle East fighting to end the bloodshed immediately.

"No hostage-takings are acceptable ... but neither is the use of full-scale force in response to these, even if unlawful, actions," Putin said. "We will demand that all sides involved in the conflict immediately stop the bloodshed."

Putin told a meeting of young people from G-8 countries that he would raise the issue with Bush.

Bush and Putin have some issues apart from those pressing on the full G-8 membership. The two countries appear close to announcing an accord in which the U.S. would bestow its long-sought blessing on Russian admission into the World Trade Organization, the 149-nation group that sets the ground rules for global trade and investment.

Also, the two countries were expected to announce a sharing agreement on civilian nuclear power. Among other things, the pact - yet to be negotiated - could allow Russia to store spent nuclear fuel from U.S. allies.

The Bushes and the Putins had a relaxed dinner Friday night at a villa on the grounds of the opulent 18th century Konstantin Palace, which Putin chose as the headquarters for the G-8 summit.

Putin showed off the vintage car that had been his first, owned when he was a student in the 1970s. Bush said his first car was a Triumph, which Putin said sounded more like a bicycle. The leaders shook hands and hugged. Putin gave Laura Bush three kisses on alternate sides of her face.

Asked by a reporter about the state of his friendship with Putin, Bush responded, "Solid friendship."

Earlier, Bush met with a group of 17 Russian activists troubled by Putin's steps away from individual rights and democracy.

Bush said he shared their concerns, and promised to deliver some of their specific grievances to Putin when they met.

At the same time, Bush said, he considered Putin a friend and it was important for the United States to "stay engaged with Russia."

 

[nofx]

The only reason why Russia & France dont share the same opinion about Arab countries is because they share a good trade partnership and Arabs will continue to import both French & Russian imports. Not to mention Russians sell weapons to almost every arab country.

 

[shoowilla]

A left-wing activist shouting as he is detained at a protest against the escalating violence in Lebanon and Gaza, in Tel Aviv on Sunday. (AP)

More than 500 protest in TA against violence in Lebanon, Gaza

By Tamara Traubman and Ruth Sinai-Heruti, Haaretz Correspondents

More than 500 left-wing activists gathered in central Tel Aviv on Sunday to protest the escalating violence in Lebanon and the Israel Defense Forces' continued offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Police forces blocked the protesters when they arrived at the site of the demonstration, and detained three people for questioning.

The protesters called the IDF's operations an unnecessary war, and demanded that the government hold negotiations on a prisoner exchange.

"We have learned from history that military solutions don't bring anything other than death and destruction," said Abir Kobti, an activist in the Coalition of Women for Peace. "We are calling on the government to regain its composure, come down from the tree, and solve these problems with negotiations to save us from more deaths on both sides," she said.

Kobti said the media diminishes the attacks on Lebanese civilians as outcomes of a military offensive, thus "portraying it as a necessary war surrounded by full consensus."

A women's protest was also held Sunday next to the central Haifa train depot where a Hezbollah rocket landed early Sunday, killing eight people. The women said that in the coming days, they would be assembling a new group of Arab and Jewish women against the war.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/739042.html