49ers LB Smith going off on T.O.

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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:

And gimpy, Owens is a "PROFESSIONAL" football player, the coaching staff shouldn't have to go in there and force him to get his sorry ass out on the field!!


You're right. The coaching staff shouldn't have to force him to get onto the field. But apparantly with Owens, they DO have to.

FATAL NYGHTMARE said:

He got paid to help the team win, and when you're injured that means you get your dumbass out there and support your team in any way you can.


Again, you're right. He got paid to do a job. So what happens when you don't do your job? You get reprimanded!

Like you said, Owens is a professional, and he should act like one. But if he doesn't, someone should be on his ass letting him know that he isn't acting right. And that needs to come from management.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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707NORTHBAYER said:
OWENS IS A TOP 3 RECIEVER IN THE NFL
I agree, he's the 3rd best behind Moss and Marvin Harrisson. But those two are lightyears ahead of Owens. Though Randy Moss is a huge distraction to his teammates, you've never heard him doing something like Owens did, right?

Terrell Owens is the type of fool that ends up hurting his team in the end due to his arrogance. If he would shut the fuck up and play without yapping afterward or during the game he would be a huge positive for the team. But since he does distract his teammates with his worthless bullshit he is hurting the team.

And judging by your comments I'd say you're the type of punk kid in sports that is selfish and will never get anywhere because of it. Owens was not the way he is until he started making big plays and got recognized. Before that he was an active participant just like everyone else. I guarantee if he had acted the way he does now he would have never gotten the opportunity to shine due to his selfishness.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
But those two are lightyears ahead of Owens.
I think you need to check the #s again before you make a statement like that...plus you are talking about a cat that was arguably the MVP of the superbowl while playing for the losing team. Moss and Harrison haven't even been to the superbowl. I agree that Owens is a selfserving jack ass, but there is no denying his ability. I would be very happy if he was still catching TDs for the Niners.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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L Mac-a-docious said:
I think you need to check the #s again before you make a statement like that...
How many times do I have to say this.... FUCK STATS. Moss and Harrisson will SHIT on Owens homeboy I don't give a shit if they've been to the fuckin Bowl. That is irrelevent. As receivers they are both way better than Owens will ever be. Owens doesn't have the hands, speed, or route running ability of Marvin Harrisson. And Moss is pretty much Owens plus hops and hands. Either way they are both better than TO, by far.

but there is no denying his ability
I never denied his ability, I said Moss and Harrisson are better, and they are.

I would be very happy if he was still catching TDs for the Niners.
I'd rather have Moss or Harrisson.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
How many times do I have to say this.... FUCK STATS.

Ok...then in that case, why don't we just stop keeping score, that way every one can be a winner. Sorry man, but sports is stats, and if a football player didn't give a fuck about the superbowl, then what the fuck are they playing for. And I would love to have Harrison, Moss, Manning at QB, Tomlinson at RB...the only difference is that the Niners actually had TO.
 
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
I don't give a shit if they've been to the fuckin Bowl. That is irrelevent.

I'm sorry, I'm confused...when did the superbowl become irrelevent in a discussion about the NFL...I guess Joe Montana was just an average QB then...Oh wait, that's right, the superbowl is the reason all the teams and players play in the NFL...and Joe Montana is one of the greatest QBs because he won 4 of them...how stupid of me.

:confused:
 
May 10, 2002
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I CONSIDER OWENS TO BE THE BEST ALL AROUND ATHLETE OUT OF ALL THE RECIEVERS, MOSS AND HARRISON CANT BREAK TACKLES LIKE HIM AND DONT HAVE THE NATURAL ABILITY LIKE T.O. HAS AND MOSS PLAYS FOR MY TEAM SO IF ANYTHING ID STICK UP FOR HIM MORE. T.O. IS FOR REAL LIKE A SUPER HUMAN, HES SO DAMN STRONG YET FAST AND CAN MAKE QUICK CUTS, I DONT THINK THERES EVER BEEN A ATHLETE LIKE HIM, NOT EVEN JERRY RICE.
 
Apr 25, 2002
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L Mac-a-docious said:
how stupid of me.

The funny thing here is you were being sarcastic when you should have been dead serious.

Look doggie, having played on a TEAM that went to the Superbowl doesn't make you a better player than someone else who hasn't been to the SuperBowl. That was my point. Owens didn't take them to the Bowl by himself pendejo. So how is Owens' superbowl visit in any way relevent to the comparrison of him, Harrisson, and Moss. Your sarcasm is ridiculous because it is not thought through. When you're being sarcastic you're supposed to be ahead in the arguement. Remember that next time.
 
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Playa510 said:
I CONSIDER OWENS TO BE THE BEST ALL AROUND ATHLETE OUT OF ALL THE RECIEVERS, MOSS AND HARRISON CANT BREAK TACKLES LIKE HIM AND DONT HAVE THE NATURAL ABILITY LIKE T.O. HAS AND MOSS PLAYS FOR MY TEAM SO IF ANYTHING ID STICK UP FOR HIM MORE. T.O. IS FOR REAL LIKE A SUPER HUMAN, HES SO DAMN STRONG YET FAST AND CAN MAKE QUICK CUTS, I DONT THINK THERES EVER BEEN A ATHLETE LIKE HIM, NOT EVEN JERRY RICE.
LMAO!!!!

The only thing he's better at AS A RECEIVER is the run after the catch. He can't run routes like Moss and Harrisson and he definately can't CATCH like them. Moss is more of a threat than TO. You can shut Owens down by putting hits on him, and that's been proven on many occasions. I haven't seen that happen to Moss or Harrisson yet. He is stronger than both of them I will give him that, but that's it.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
The funny thing here is you were being sarcastic when you should have been dead serious.
Look doggie, having played on a TEAM that went to the Superbowl doesn't make you a better player than someone else who hasn't been to the SuperBowl. That was my point. Owens didn't take them to the Bowl by himself pendejo. So how is Owens' superbowl visit in any way relevent to the comparrison of him, Harrisson, and Moss. Your sarcasm is ridiculous because it is not thought through. When you're being sarcastic you're supposed to be ahead in the arguement. Remember that next time.
Thank you for the sarcasm tutorial...BTW that was sarcastic :rolleyes:
#1 The eagle went to the championship game two yrs in a row prior to Owens arrival, and failed to go to the Sbowl.
#2 He didn't just go to the superbowl, he dominated it, and came in 2nd in MVP voting...ON THE LOSING TEAM! In the biggest game of the NFL season...weeks after breaking a bone in his leg.
#3 I never denyed that Moss and Harrison were raw as fuck, I might even concede that they are better than TO...I challenged your inference that they are "lightyears ahead" of Owens....to which you said "fuck stats." Well good for you then I have a theory that the sky is in fact not blue, water is not wet, and rocks are not hard...and how many times do I have to tell you FUCK REALITY.
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
Thank you for the sarcasm tutorial...BTW that was sarcastic :rolleyes:
Not a problem.... it's too bad you didn't seem to comprehend it.

#1 The eagle went to the championship game two yrs in a row prior to Owens arrival, and failed to go to the Sbowl.
So let me guess.... The only reason they made it to the Bowl last year was because of Terrell Owens. They had absolutely no chance of getting there without him, right? Give me a break. The Eagles would have made it with or without Owens pendejo. He didn't even play in the playoffs or the NFC Championship game so THEY WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE BOWL EITHER WAY. Plus, the NFC had a WEAK ass conference last year and the Eagles were the only standout team. If you really believe Owens is the sole reason for their SB berth then I'm done arguing with you right here and now because you know absolutely nothing about the game.

#2 He didn't just go to the superbowl, he dominated it, and came in 2nd in MVP voting...ON THE LOSING TEAM! In the biggest game of the NFL season...weeks after breaking a bone in his leg.
In case you weren't paying attention, they were covering him loosely due to his injury. And the Patriots were a mangled secondary all year, including the Super Bowl. Owens' performance was not enough to put the Pats away, so I guess he didn't "dominate" like you say he did, now did he? His "2nd in MVP voting" means nothing because the losing team never has the game's MVP.

#3 I never denyed that Moss and Harrison were raw as fuck, I might even concede that they are better than TO...I challenged your inference that they are "lightyears ahead" of Owens....to which you said "fuck stats."
Look, go back and read what I've said about Harrisson and Moss and tell me I'm wrong. They are ahead of Owens in every category when it comes to a WR's abilities. Owens is only good after the catch, if he can even make the damn catch.

Well good for you then I have a theory that the sky is in fact not blue, water is not wet, and rocks are not hard...
LAME.

and how many times do I have to tell you FUCK REALITY.
It seems that is your motto when it comes to TO. FUCK REALITY T.O. IS SICK AS FUCK!!!!!!!!!
 
Jun 18, 2004
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First off the day I don't comprehend something you state is the day I eat a bullit. Next thing is you didn't say they were "ahead" of Owens, you said "Light years ahead," which is rediculous. And yes, TO is sick as fuck, but since you don't belive in numbers, probabaly because you can't fuckin count as high as 95 TDs or 9800 yds, you wouldn't know that. Did Owens fuck your girl or something, is that you need to be down on him? I'm just wondering.
 
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L Mac-a-docious said:
First off the day I don't comprehend something you state is the day I eat a bullit.
First off it's spelled BULLET and second, if that were true you'd be dead right now.

Did Owens fuck your mom or something? He must be your daddy the way you're all over his balls. You can't accept the fact that Moss and Harrison are better receivers. But fuck it you wanna go stats, then let's do it....

Owens: 9,884 receiving yards, 95 TDs.
Harrison: 11,254 receiving yards, 99 TDs.
Moss: 9,272 receiving yards, 91 TDs.

Keep in mind Owens and Harrison were in the league 2 years before Moss got there, as they both started in 96 with Moss starting in 98. Harrison outshines Owens statistically and Moss is creeping up on Owens' stats even though Owens has a 2 year advantage. You still wanna talk stats son?
 
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randy moss and marvin harrison ARE lightyears ahead of owens. they both run routes much better, they are faster, and they have way better hands. owens is good after the catch but he drops so many balls that a lot of his opportunities are thrown away. once he gets hit hard he becomes mr. butterfingers out there. whenever he hears footsteps he drops it. i cant count how many times he dropped a pass and then bitched that jeff garcia didn't get him the ball. it had nothing to do with garcia it was owens' damn hands. and to the other dude who keep bringing up stats:

FATAL NYGHTMARE said:

Owens: 9,884 receiving yards, 95 TDs.
Harrison: 11,254 receiving yards, 99 TDs.
Moss: 9,272 receiving yards, 91 TDs.

Keep in mind Owens and Harrison were in the league 2 years before Moss got there, as they both started in 96 with Moss starting in 98. Harrison outshines Owens statistically and Moss is creeping up on Owens' stats even though Owens has a 2 year advantage. You still wanna talk stats son?
that pretty much says it all. moss and harrison are WAY better than owens will ever be. stats can be deceiving but this time they seem to match the facts. get off owens' nuts boy.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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Hmmmmmmmm...what happened today? Did Moss and Harrison slip a few light years? Did Harrison have a whopping 30 somthing yds rec? Moss had a TD, and how many YDS? Oh, and how did TO do? Did he have a good game? I didn't see, because I was looking lightyears ahead of him...maybe I missed the fact that he shit on both your prom dates.
 
Jun 3, 2005
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you are seriously an idiot boy. look at the overall stats son, isn't that what you were bringing up?

@ fatal, don't even argue with this kid mayne he's ignorant as fuck.
 

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It's a hard argument to be honest. Owens is more physical than the other receivers so once he catches a ball in the secondary he has the ability to break tackles and then take it to the house. Owens is probably the best receiver in the league in my opinion.
 
Jun 18, 2004
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Jabbz said:
you are seriously an idiot boy. look at the overall stats son, isn't that what you were bringing up?

@ fatal, don't even argue with this kid mayne he's ignorant as fuck.
First off, shut the fuck up when grown folks are talkin...and if you wanna see stats look at my next post..."son."
 
Jun 18, 2004
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FATAL NYGHTMARE said:
But those two are lightyears ahead of Owens.
This was the original quote that I disagreed with....and here are the #s as of yesterday...

Harrison- 11359yds 100tds
Owens- 10139yds 97tds
Moss- 9529yds 93tds

Harrison runs the best routes, and has great hands. Moss is the best deep threat, probably ever, and has great hands. Owens has questionable hands, but runs better routes than Moss, and doesn't take plays off, he is the best runner after the catch, he is the best blocker, the most physical, the best all around reciever of the group...so back to my first post of this thread...I don't think you can honestly say that Moss and Harrison are "lightyears" ahead of Owens...It's all spelled out at this point, if you still think this shit aint true then you are trusting emotions and not logic, and any further discussion on the topic is futile.