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Wow I guess I feel a certain Responsibiity to respond to This Post.
First Tay, & Brandon both are my homies and i never got in the middle of their situation, Brandon did alot on helping me launch Done Deal and I appreciate everything He did, was a happy the whole time i was on bayside? NO! Do I blame Brandon? NO! I felt like Brandon had too much on his shoulders, I felt and still feel for Bayside to have all that money they are some Cheap muthafuckas that dont give a Fuck about The"URBAN" Dept, and lets just face it Urban is another word for Minority! When i say cheap I mean How the Fuck are Brandon, Rob & Mike Cleveland gunna deal with all those Fuckin Labels No way and thats why shit got bad with the finger pointing. The "Urban" Dept was and pretty much still is Street Mutha Fuckas who are not used to their money coming back in 3-6months instead of right back, cats dont know about returns, shipped returns unshipped returns and all that, which can very much be the biggest Gaffle in all of distribution, look at it this way Does it make more sense for your distributer to press 5k cds for less than 5G's and charge you 35k in unshipped returns in your billing as product that sits in the wherehouse? Cmon why wouldnt you if you had atleast one crooked bone in your body? I have never seen one penny from Bayside (other than an advance) in almost 3 years dealing with Bayside and thats Bullshit but its another story. I dont blame none of that on Brandon, shit if anything i blame my relationship with him for not getting shit done i drive up there and we would talk about frisco street drama other than Music Business!

As For Tay Thats My nigga, We been cool ever since we met Fully Loaded put me up on Tay and I went and Broke Bread with him to get down with them shit he was Hot in the streets and they wanted him on their shit Done Deal! We been tight ever since matter of fact after that Tay was on my first four releases. We both have tried to come together and unite everyone but basically it doesnt work, too many Chiefs not enough Indians! Nobody wants to feel like someone has more power or something, shit is all silly, everyone wants their way or no way or everyone sees a different path to reach the same vision, like me and Guce we have been working hard trying to figure out away to bring our shit together im not sure if or how that is gunna work, it has to be trust and it has to be loyalty 2 things The Bay dont have with one another its Cutthroat out here.

Man Ive heard messages from cats I thought were my homies hating on our FEW radio spins talking about why you playing Quinn & Done Deal So much! man shit is Crazy you got to take it like everything else If you werent Nobody Nobody would talk about you! Shit Tay Call my house nigga I need to holla its been a minute! Brandon hit me too
 
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GOOD SHIT CHUCC,I FEEL YOUR POST & THANK YOU 4 CLARIFYING THE SITUATION AS FAR AS PAYMENTS FROM BAYSIDE GO..PEOPLE GOT IT TWISTED..YEH THEY PUT PEOPLE OUT THERE BUT LIKE YOU SAID THE URBAN DEPT. WAS THE NON WHITES IN THE GAME,BRANDON WAS A WHITE PERSON WHO COULD BAIT IN NIGGAS 2 GET GANKED..IT WAS VERY UNFAIR 2 ME...THEY JUST USED EVERYONE INCLUDING BRANDON..THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NIGGAS WHO HAD KIDS 2 FEED THEY JUST WANTED 2 CONTROL THIS AREA..THEY WERE MAD IF YOU DIDN'T FLOOD THEM WITH PROJECTS BUT WHO WANTS 2 BUMP THEIR HEAD TWICE...MOST OF THE LABELS WHO WENT THRU THEM HAD SOME MONEY..THEY JUST WANTED 2 BE EVERYWHERE..PROBLEM WAS,IT'S NOT HARD 2 SIT ON YOUR ASS & PLACE CD'S ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHEN THE ARTISTS HAVE NAMES...I DID A LOT OF NETWORKING WITH FRISCO CATS CUZ I DID HAVE SOME NATIONWIDE POWER AT THE TIME..& I WANTED US ALL 2 BLOW..LIKE I TOLD ZAIRE WE DIDN'T NEED BAYSIDE BUT THEY SUCCERED HIM INTO DROPPING OFF 45,OOO CD'S & DID THE OLD CHARGEBACC GAME & DIDN'T WANT 2 PAY..IT DISGUSTS ME..SNAKE EYES WAS REAL HOT..ALL THE STORES I TALKED 2 TOLD ME THEY WERE SELLING CD'S FOR 18.99..ALL IT DID WAS MAKE A COMPANY THAT ALREADY HAD MONEY RICHER & MAKE US NIGGAS OUT HERE IN THE STREET HAVE 2 START FROM SCRATCH..MY NAME HAS BEEN OUT THERE....I WANTED MY PAYDAY..WHO WOULDN'T?
 

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Ill post this for the last time and then its a dead issue:

Tay: You cant seem to decide if Im the shot caller or a pawn. If I orchestrated everything or if I assisted Bayside in "fuckin' people" as you say, why do I still fuck with most everyone I did at Bayside?. As far as Luni goes, I was the one who made sure he got paid from both of his labels when they weren't paying him. Ill make sure I-Rocc or Luni get on here and vouch for that since you are looking for "corroborative evidence" on the "evil empire" that you say Bayside is. Another thing, Chuck didn't confirm nothing you were saying except his own personal and very different circumstances at Bayside. As fas as me Chuck, and Quinn. Thats my fam. On some Frisco shit. On business, they weren't always happy but without putting Chuck's business out there, they recieved over six figures in advances and chargebacks for their label but I can't control the whole company so when something wasn't right for them, I did my best to make it right.

As for your situaition, Ill make sure I post up the SoundScans and the check stubs sometime soon so everyone can see the situation. Its very clear to me that you either refuse to believe the evidence that Bayside paid Zaire or you just don't understand the accounting process. Over $200K was paid to him and almost $30K directly to you when he wasn't paying so lets quit making like you guys got robbed. Ill get the exact figures soon for you.

About this "black" and "white" shit, well, it is what it is. You aren't the first person to use the race card on me and you won't be the last so it doesn't effect me like you hope it would. I never "lured" nobody in to gaffle them and I always looked out for my labels and that's part of the reason I left the company. I knew 90% of these cats in the streets long before I was even in distribution, check the resume. I can only hold people's hands for so long. You see, you being black is actually a benefit for you in the independent rap game because people accept you off top. For me, it was a much longer and harder struggle that I still deal with from time to time. I had to put in a lot more work in the business and in the streets then you ever did homie. Thats on Oakdale dog. You don't know nobody that I know so you can't speak on my street credentials and you certainly have never experienced me outside of the Bayside situation so you could never imagine what kind of friend and benefit I can be to the people on my side. I can also be a serious thorn though if someone opposes me.

I could type til I turn "blue" but I'm going to leave it at this...you don't like me for whatever reason and I think you oppose me for the fact that I never jocked you from day one. You judged me on color instead of character and have established an opinion about me long before we ever did business. That's cool. I wish you the best man and hopefully all the anger you have can be used in a positive way for you to go get what you deserve in this rap shit. Its a fucked up game, I won't argue with that. And you are right about one thing, having a middle man will fuck you up every time.

A wise man told me "you'll see the same people on the way up that you see on the way down". Don't burn a bridge you might need to cross over one day. God bless you.

Vamps: You already know bro, its family for us. I didn't need you to speak on the situation but it shows a lot on your part.

RJ: We go back. You I got love for you. Hit me. I was real worried about something I heard. Too much time has passed.

Chuck: I called the house and left the new cell.

Cellski: Always spitting knowledge and I can vouch that this man never wanted a dime from Bayside. He always handled his own shit.

TKO: Damn, we do go back. I was a teen then. Stay up.

MS/Bigg Robb: Yall are the folx. Hit the pm with the cell, I lost the phone with the #.

Game Insane: Far from a legend but right on. Im glad I had a part of this shit.

Sir Playboy7: Is this Preston? Good to see you on here. Yeah we had our ups and downs. Right on for keeping it real. Im glad you were distributed by more than just us though. I dont think people understand this shit until they have dealt with more than one distributor.

Everyone with input, both positive and negative. I thank you. It really opens your eyes some times. I guess you can make some of the people happy some of the time but none of the people all of the time.

See everybody at the finish.
 
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Bayrider 12 said:
You could never imagine what kind of friend and benefit I can be to the people on my side. I can also be a serious thorn though if someone opposes me.
This is why we get along 12, I'm the same way.

In the short time I have known Brandon, I have seen him help out people that he didn't owe anything to, but he still did it. People always point the finger when they think something is wrong, but never point that same finger when good things are done.
 
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WELL HERE'S THE FACTS AS I KNOW IT...I SEE YOU'VE CHANGED FROM 300K 2 200K...ANYWAY,ZAIRE RECIEVED 70K FROM BAYSIDE,
I RECIEVED 34...HE SPENT 120..HE JUST WANTED 2 RECOUP THAT..OUR DEAL WAS REALLY ONCE HE RECOUPED OFF OF 19,000
CD'S WE WOULD SPLIT THE REST 50/50..HE NEVER GOT THAT BACC SO HE DIDN'T HAVE 2 PAY ME..YOU GUYS CONTROLLED THE PRODUCT (UNFORTUNATELY) & THEN WHEN THINGS WENT WRONG TRIED 2 ACT LIKE Y'ALL DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING 2 DO WITH IT..AS FAR AS THE PAPERWORK GOES,I'VE BEEN WAITING 3 YEARS 2 SEE IT..STILL NO HAPS...DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DIDN'T DO ANY HIDING..& I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE FROM THE SCO WHO KNOW YOU...I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT YOUR STREET CREDIBILITY.I KNOW EVERYTIME WE WENT THRU SOMETHING YOU ALWAYS HAD NARD T OR TAYDA AS A SECURITY BLANKET & LIKE I TOLD YOU IF YOU EVER WANTED 2 SETTLE IT (JUST ME & YOU)I WOULD LOVE 2 PUT HANDS ON YOU...I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE A LIL WEAPON PERMIT OR WHATEVER..I DIDN'T NEED 2 PULL OUT NO GUN..WE ALL GOT PLENTY OF WEAPONS PLENTY OF RIDERS & ALL THAT...I NEVER WANTED YOU 2 JOCC ME..I WANTED YOU 2 GIVE ME THE HEADS UP LIKE A MAN...I DIDN'T GET DOWN AT YOUR JOBSITE CUZ Y'ALL ALREADY WANTED 2 SEE ME IN JAIL..DID YOU TELL EVERYBODY ON HERE & FROM YOUR HOOD THAT I MASHED YOU IN YOUR FACE & YOU DIDN'T DO SHIT?WE ALL SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN LIFE..ALL I KNOW IS I SPEAK WHAT I KNOW..I DON'T HIDE BEHIND NOBODY..Y'ALL GOT Y'ALL MAFIA,I GOT MINE..
WE ALL GOT FRIENDS & ENEMIES IN THIS GAME...WE COULD HAVE HAD COOL RELATIONSHIPS..I CAME UP THERE 2 HANDLE BUSINESS THE WAY I KNOW HOW..LIKE I TOLD MARK...THE SMART THING 4 US 2 DO IS HAVE A BOXING MATCH SOMEWHERE & MAKE SOME MONEY...FUCC FUSSIN BACC & FORTH ON THE INTERNET..IF YOU WANT 2 PLAY TOUGH THEN SHOW ME WHAT'S REAL...IF NOT GET AT ME & MAKE IT RIGHT..GUCE HAS MY #...
 
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OK IM NOT GONNA GET INTO YA'LLS BUSINESS WHATSOEVER CUZ I HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH IT , I DONT KNOW THE REAL STORIES....

BUT ABOUT THAT BOXING IDEA I THINK ITS A VERRRRY GOOD IDEA...I KNOW ALOT OF THESE RAPPERS OUT HERE GOT ANIMOSITY TOWARDS EACH OTHER AND A BOXING MATCH BETWEEN THEM AT A PAID FUNCTION WOULD BE A SAFE WAY TO SETTLE ALOT OF BEEF AND GET THEIR ANGER OUT....


WELL I DONT KNOW IF THE BEEF WOULD BE "SETTLED" BUT IT WOULD SURE GET ALOT OF ANGER OUT....BUT THEN ALSO SOME FOLKS MIGHT NOT WANT TO SEE THEIR SELVES GET THEIR ASS WHOOPED IN FRONT OF A CROWD LOL
TOO MUCH PRIDE INVOLVED I THINK...BUT GOOD IDEA THO TAY!! MAYBE ONE DAY IT WILL HAPPEN
 

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300K or 200K whatever. Its alot of dough. I will get the paperwork from Rob when I can. You never mashed me, you pointed in my face and security came and didnt let me thump. You had plenty of opportunities to go head up with me as you say but it didnt go down. I still dont hide behind no one. I ride solo. I dont have a gun permit Im a felon. You talked about guns so I had mine. You didnt. You dont care about my street credibility, I dont care that you are a crip down with WCM. This is 415 blood. You are right though fuck the internet.

Like me or dont. I DONT GIVE A FUCK! Have a good life and I hope you are successful but you wont be with that racist, everybody owes me something attitude. Go smash on Zaire, Freddie Smith, Metro and whoever else you did business with, its nobody's fault but your own. Im not going to ask GUCE for your # because I really dont care. If you ever need to talk to me, several people have my #'s and you can hollar. As far as our dealings, we have none. I dont work at Bayside and I never fucked you. Believe what you want I wont post again this shit is old and you must have nothing else to talk about but some three year old "lightweight beef". Make another song about me or something. No one really knows who I am outside the music business but maybe you can sell some copies with the attention you get talking about me. There has to be more interesting shit in your life than B-12 and Bayside. Good luck homie. I mean it.

PEACE.
 

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somebody close this thread because I cant possibly be this interesting to people. If anyone wants attention, start you own post about what you did on your summer vacation. Not about B-12 because Im busy trying to live my life. Yall live yours and we will all meet at the finish line and compare notes (maybe).

OH BOY!
 
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