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[heyzel]

Clifford Etienne Nearly Killed in Prison, Given Transfer

Posted by: TMZ on 11/9/2015 .


By TMZ Sports

Former heavyweight contender Clifford "The Black Rhino" Etienne has found something new to live for while serving his 105 year prison sentence ... his love of painting.

Etienne made the big time when he fought Mike Tyson back in '03 ... but saw his life spiral downward after that ... and is currently serving time in Louisiana for armed robbery, kidnapping, and attempted murder of a police officer.

We spoke to Lynn O'Shea -- who handles Etienne's business affairs -- and she tells us he began painting while inside ... and that his passion for the craft may have saved his life.

"He's amazing. He took painting serious inside and after he earned trustee status he was actually able to become the warden's artist and sleep in his paint room. That kept him away from all the drama in gen pop."

O'Shea tells us that Clifford's paintings sell "very well" and his work has been displayed at several high profile spots around south Louisiana ... including one of the last places you'd expect.

"The city of New Orleans bought one that hangs in a district police department, if you can believe that."

Unfortunately, Etienne's had a rough go of it as of late ... he was transferred to a new prison after he was nearly killed in an attack in his paint room ... and O'Shea says it's taken a toll on him.

"Things slowed down after the attack. He used to make all his own canvas and stuff to paint on ... but now he's locked down. I'm hoping some friends from his past life as a boxer can help him out."

 

[heyzel]

FLOYD MAYWEATHER CRUSHES PACQUIAO'S REMATCH TALK: "ALL BULLshyt...ONCE AGAIN, PIGGYBACKING OFF MY NAME"
By Ben Thompson | November 08, 2015
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"I'm in different cities in different countries and I hear people talking about Mayweather-Pacquiao 2. I guess people forgot about those different ESPN commercials. 'He really wants to fight? He's scared of me. He don't really want to fight.' They forgot about those ESPN commercials," stated retired undefeated former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who recently spoke to FightHype.com and made it crystal clear that he has no intentions of coming out of retirement, let alone participating in negotiations for a rematch with 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao.

Less than two weeks ago, Pacquiao posted a video on his Facebook account telling fans, "I don't know yet who's my opponent next, but we're still negotiating right now about the rematch with Floyd Mayweather, so hoping for that." Pacquiao, however, is either lying or he's being grossly misinformed by his adviser because according to Mayweather, any talk of a rematch is simply not true. In fact, even if Mayweather was still fighting, it doesn't sound as though he believes a rematch would even be necessary after his dominant unanimous decision victory.

"Once again, I dissected this fighter, the so-called 'best fighter of our generation'. I dissected him; probably was 10 to 2, really 11 to 1, but it's safe to say 10 to 2. 'Mayweather is so boring, he's this, he's that!' I'm boring enough to do the biggest and the best numbers in pay-per-view history," Mayweather explained before totally killing Pacquiao's hope for a rematch when he makes his return to the ring next April for what could very well be the final fight of his career. "It's all bullshyt. What they're doing is this, once again, piggybacking off my name to sell pay-per-view numbers when he do go out there and fight again," he added.

 

[heyzel]

Boxing Legion ‏@BoxingLegion 21m21 minutes ago

Sullivan Barrera vs Karo Murat on December 12 on HBO Latino. Gamboa is likely to be on undercard I guess

 

[heyzel]

Boxing Legion ‏@BoxingLegion 3h3 hours ago

Walters-Sosa on HBO December 19.

 

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FLOYD MAYWEATHER CRUSHES PACQUIAO'S REMATCH TALK: "ALL BULLshyt...ONCE AGAIN, PIGGYBACKING OFF MY NAME"
By Ben Thompson | November 08, 2015
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"I'm in different cities in different countries and I hear people talking about Mayweather-Pacquiao 2. I guess people forgot about those different ESPN commercials. 'He really wants to fight? He's scared of me. He don't really want to fight.' They forgot about those ESPN commercials," stated retired undefeated former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who recently spoke to FightHype.com and made it crystal clear that he has no intentions of coming out of retirement, let alone participating in negotiations for a rematch with 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao.

Less than two weeks ago, Pacquiao posted a video on his Facebook account telling fans, "I don't know yet who's my opponent next, but we're still negotiating right now about the rematch with Floyd Mayweather, so hoping for that." Pacquiao, however, is either lying or he's being grossly misinformed by his adviser because according to Mayweather, any talk of a rematch is simply not true. In fact, even if Mayweather was still fighting, it doesn't sound as though he believes a rematch would even be necessary after his dominant unanimous decision victory.

"Once again, I dissected this fighter, the so-called 'best fighter of our generation'. I dissected him; probably was 10 to 2, really 11 to 1, but it's safe to say 10 to 2. 'Mayweather is so boring, he's this, he's that!' I'm boring enough to do the biggest and the best numbers in pay-per-view history," Mayweather explained before totally killing Pacquiao's hope for a rematch when he makes his return to the ring next April for what could very well be the final fight of his career. "It's all bullshyt. What they're doing is this, once again, piggybacking off my name to sell pay-per-view numbers when he do go out there and fight again," he added.

All Pac said was hes not sure he's truly retired for ever, which a lot of people believe and that he'd rematch him IF Floyd wanted to lol. But with that said Pacquiao should let it go and most certainly retire after his next fight, he's not the same guy he was years ago, time to walk away before he Roy Jones's his career.

 

[8FIVE8]

Floyd didn't dissect shit. He was out outboxed. Pac landed more punches. Pac was robbed like the Native Americans. If u don't believe me I will post another video documentary that will blow everybody's cocks right out of yalls socks and underwears.

 

[HERESY]

All Pac said was hes not sure he's truly retired for ever, which a lot of people believe and that he'd rematch him IF Floyd wanted to lol. But with that said Pacquiao should let it go and most certainly retire after his next fight, he's not the same guy he was years ago, time to walk away before he Roy Jones's his career.

If Pac said, "I don't know yet who's my opponent next, but we're still negotiating right now about the rematch with Floyd Mayweather, so hoping for that." then that's not all he said.

The guy needs to hang em up and stop beggeing Floyd for a payday. Shit man, you made 9 fuckin figures. Are you that much of a hoe that Arum needs to keep pimpin you?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

If Pac said, "I don't know yet who's my opponent next, but we're still negotiating right now about the rematch with Floyd Mayweather, so hoping for that." then that's not all he said.

The guy needs to hang em up and stop beggeing Floyd for a payday. Shit man, you made 9 fuckin figures. Are you that much of a hoe that Arum needs to keep pimpin you?

He doesn't want to quit yet. Most guys don't after a decision loss, it's very difficult to walk away especially when an entire country is behind you. He's not fighting for Arum, if anything Arum wants Crawford to be the one and beat Pacquiao so he can be his "next star".

 

[HERESY]

He doesn't want to quit yet. Most guys don't after a decision loss, it's very difficult to walk away especially when an entire country is behind you. He's not fighting for Arum, if anything Arum wants Crawford to be the one and beat Pacquiao so he can be his "next star".

He's not fighting for Arum? Then why is he lying about being in negotiations to fight Floyd? Better yet, was he talking about being in negotiations with Floyd or being in negotiations with his pimp and how much of a cut he would be left with?

And he wants to pimp Crawford as well.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

He's not fighting for Arum? Then why is he lying about being in negotiations to fight Floyd? Better yet, was he talking about being in negotiations with Floyd or being in negotiations with his pimp and how much of a cut he would be left with?

And he wants to pimp Crawford as well.

I didn't read he said he was negotiating with Floyd, I'm just going off what I quoted (the article hazel posted). If he said that, then pac is delusional.

 

[HERESY]

I didn't read he said he was negotiating with Floyd, I'm just going off what I quoted (the article hazel posted). If he said that, then pac is delusional.

What I quoted was in the article Heyzel posted.

Pac is delusional.

 

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What I quoted was in the article Heyzel posted.

Pac is delusional.

My bad, I was referring to the "Pacquiao is Not Convinced Floyd Mayweather is Retired" article posted shortly before.

 

[naner12]

What an awesome quote by Tyson at the end of the 30 for 30 on Holyfield. Pretty good doc.

 

[HERESY]

What an awesome quote by Tyson at the end of the 30 for 30 on Holyfield. Pretty good doc.

What he say? I missed it.

 

[naner12]

What he say? I missed it.

Not an exact quote, but pretty much how incredible Holyfield's resume was during that era and then he said when everyone looks back and they stack the great fighters of that era up Holyfield is gonna be above us all.

 

[CZAR]

^^Agreed! Holyfield is one of my top 3 fav fighters of all time along with Floyd & SRL. Greatest heavyweight I ever seen! Got Em!!

 

[HERESY]

The thing about Mike is there will always be two what if scenarios when you talk about him. What if Cus didn't die is one. What if he never went to jail is the other. IMHO, a prime Tyson beats a prime Holyfield inside of ten.

But yeah, props to Holyfield and his resume is better. 206 and I had a back and forth about Tysons and, for the most part, it is lacking when you compare the two.

 

[CZAR]

Obviously we will never know but I think Holyfield beats Tyson at any time. Most opponents that Tyson was running through, he had them beat before the bell rang with fear. Holyfield wasnt scared and was a phenominal boxer and frustrates his opponents like he did Mike. If Mike doesnt get you early you had a chance and no way would he beat Holyfield if the fight goes anywhere near 10 rounds in my opinion. He would have to ko him very early. Regardless they fought when they fought and everybody and they momma said Tyson would win accept me and he lost twice lol. Got Em!!

 

[T-Rip]

Holyfield is one of my favorite boxers ever but I think Tyson gets him if they fought before Cus's death. Noone had more heart then Holyfield I will tell u that much. That Bowe/Holyfield 3 should have never happened but Holyfield being the warrior he is didnt back out and yes his resume looks better then most heavyweights

 

[HERESY]

Obviously we will never know but I think Holyfield beats Tyson at any time. Most opponents that Tyson was running through, he had them beat before the bell rang with fear. Holyfield wasnt scared and was a phenominal boxer and frustrates his opponents like he did Mike. If Mike doesnt get you early you had a chance and no way would he beat Holyfield if the fight goes anywhere near 10 rounds in my opinion. He would have to ko him very early. Regardless they fought when they fought and everybody and they momma said Tyson would win accept me and he lost twice lol. Got Em!!

See that's the thing. You're not looking at Mike Tyson pre prison, Mike Tyson under Cus' hand or shortly after he died. It was hard to hit the man. Too many slips, head movement was insane, the bobbing and weaving, and he had good foot speed. I don't see a prime Holyfield with any tools to beat a prime Tyson. And going the distance wasn't an issue early in his career.