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Actually I forgot about Lemieux. I would love to see GGG/Lemieux. Got Em!!
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WBC coming through with their bullshit even though they stated Cotto MUST fight GGG next after his voluntary not even two months ago....
Sulaiman Trying To Work Out Cotto/Canelo/Golovkin
By Miguel Rivera
World Boxing Council President Mauricio Suilaiman is mediating the title situation in the middleweight division.
WBC champion Miguel Cotto will defend his title against Daniel Geale on June 6th at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.
If Cotto wins that fight, he will have to defend against mandatory challenger Gennady Golovkin, who holds the WBA/IBO titles and the WBC interim-belt.
But Cotto's handlers are instead hoping to face Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez in the fall.
Sulaiman is trying to work out an agreement where Cotto/Canelo would fight each other - but the two of them would have to sign an agreement which guarantees Golovkin the winner.
"First, Cotto has to get through June 6. There are already talks of a fight with Canelo in September or October. We have been in communication with Golovkin, and he understands the importance of a Cotto-'Canelo fight, that was scheduled for May and did not happen. We are trying to mediate with all of the parties for two big fights, Cotto with Canelo and the winner with Golovkin," Sulaiman said.
Sulaiman Trying To Work Out Cotto/Canelo/Golovkin
By Miguel Rivera
World Boxing Council President Mauricio Suilaiman is mediating the title situation in the middleweight division.
WBC champion Miguel Cotto will defend his title against Daniel Geale on June 6th at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.
If Cotto wins that fight, he will have to defend against mandatory challenger Gennady Golovkin, who holds the WBA/IBO titles and the WBC interim-belt.
But Cotto's handlers are instead hoping to face Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez in the fall.
Sulaiman is trying to work out an agreement where Cotto/Canelo would fight each other - but the two of them would have to sign an agreement which guarantees Golovkin the winner.
"First, Cotto has to get through June 6. There are already talks of a fight with Canelo in September or October. We have been in communication with Golovkin, and he understands the importance of a Cotto-'Canelo fight, that was scheduled for May and did not happen. We are trying to mediate with all of the parties for two big fights, Cotto with Canelo and the winner with Golovkin," Sulaiman said.
Even GGG knows he will more than likely move up to 168 before getting a shot at Cotto/Canelo:
Golovkin's Promoter: We've Asked Hearn For Froch - Boxing News
Golovkin's Promoter: We've Asked Hearn For Froch - Boxing News
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Because Ward has a fight against Paul Smith at 172 pounds on B.E.T in June. After that he is planning another stay busy fight. Also the fight couldn't happen right now anyways because it would need to be on PPV to accommodate Ward's purse, HBO couldn't afford it, and it's not a PPV yet.
Anyways, looks like Froch is now saying he may be interested:
Hearn: I Spoke To Froch, He's Interested in Golovkin
Hearn is stating that Froch is now starting to show some interest in the fight, but whether or not he would actually get in the ring with Golovkin is unknown.
"I’ve now spoken with Carl directly about this and he is interested. I only want him to take it if he’s genuinely motivated because it is a high-risk fight. But it would be massive and we can fill Wembley again. Given Carl’s interest, we have already opened negotiations with Golovkin’s people and they are very keen," Hearn told Daily Mail.
"Golovkin is the most feared fighter in the world now and Carl doesn’t need this fight. But he says he is intrigued by how he would deal with him. He’s crazy that way."
Anyways, looks like Froch is now saying he may be interested:
Hearn: I Spoke To Froch, He's Interested in Golovkin
Hearn is stating that Froch is now starting to show some interest in the fight, but whether or not he would actually get in the ring with Golovkin is unknown.
"I’ve now spoken with Carl directly about this and he is interested. I only want him to take it if he’s genuinely motivated because it is a high-risk fight. But it would be massive and we can fill Wembley again. Given Carl’s interest, we have already opened negotiations with Golovkin’s people and they are very keen," Hearn told Daily Mail.
"Golovkin is the most feared fighter in the world now and Carl doesn’t need this fight. But he says he is intrigued by how he would deal with him. He’s crazy that way."
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So all this talk about why does he have to fight Ward when he wants to unify the MW is all pointless now he he fights Froch. Now my Ward talk is legit and if GGG fights Froch he needs to fight Ward after that. No excuses. Got Em!!
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He doesn't have to fight Froch either and he still wants to unify but money talks. If GGG vs Froch were to happen in the UK it would sell out Wembley stadium, 80,000 people, plus HBO revenue and UK revenue (presumably on UK PPV). That's a lot of money. Whether or not that will come to fruition is another story, just weeks ago Hearn was talking about how Froch would never fight GGG, too risky, too big of a puncher at this stage of his career and Froch himself has said in an interview on TV that he would avoid Golovkin at all costs. So this news today might just be about saving face in response to Loeffler calling them out this morning.
The downside for GGG is if he takes this fight now and beats Froch at 168, good luck getting Cotto and Canelo! It's the same problem that happened to Paul Williams - once he moved up there was zero incentive for any welterweights to fight him, and as a result Williams never fought at 147 again.
It's tricky. Take a good payday now for Froch and potentially lose out on Canelo, or pass on Froch, wait for Canelo who may or may not fight him within 1.5 years? Tough call.
The downside for GGG is if he takes this fight now and beats Froch at 168, good luck getting Cotto and Canelo! It's the same problem that happened to Paul Williams - once he moved up there was zero incentive for any welterweights to fight him, and as a result Williams never fought at 147 again.
It's tricky. Take a good payday now for Froch and potentially lose out on Canelo, or pass on Froch, wait for Canelo who may or may not fight him within 1.5 years? Tough call.
Czar, I think you are rambling on without knowing anything about GGG and instead say wacky shit about the man so people here can type and call you names. It's like your on some battle shit, completely ignoring the facts but let me give you some:
FACT 1: GGG was calling out Froch in 2013 and said he wanted the fight. Google is your friend.
FACT 2: GGG called out the winner of Cotto Canelo and also, in the same interview, called out Jr., Froch and Ward. This was last year. Google is your friend.
FACT 3: it's obvious some of you have only recently watched GGG fights. Go and watch his older fights. Google is your friend.
FACT 4: it's obvious some of you do not understand this mans boxing abilities so let me spell it out. Won silver at the Olympics. Won gold at the world championship.
FACT 5: on one hand you guys are calling him a bum but you are forgetting that you're calling for him to fight a guy who is a gold medalist and was a top 3 p4p fighter! Not to mention the guy is in a heavier weight class. That DOESN'T make any sense. Why would you want a bum to fight one of the best fighters in the world but make excuses for the best fighter in the world to avoid his mandatory on the grounds that his mandatory is not well known?
FACT 6: multitasking is real. So to say his unification is pointless shows you don't know what you're talking about. (Refer to fact 1.)
Stop this GGG hate. It's one thing to have an opinion but at least back it up with facts and not "oh he's fighting bums" without knowing some history of the guys he is fighting and how they're ranked. He isn't fighting guys ranked 17th like that bitch ass nigga Cotto. He isn't sidestepping his mandatory like Floyd. He isn't going silent like Ward when bigger guys call him out (his people told Ward who exactly to call and to make an offer.)
FACT 1: GGG was calling out Froch in 2013 and said he wanted the fight. Google is your friend.
FACT 2: GGG called out the winner of Cotto Canelo and also, in the same interview, called out Jr., Froch and Ward. This was last year. Google is your friend.
FACT 3: it's obvious some of you have only recently watched GGG fights. Go and watch his older fights. Google is your friend.
FACT 4: it's obvious some of you do not understand this mans boxing abilities so let me spell it out. Won silver at the Olympics. Won gold at the world championship.
FACT 5: on one hand you guys are calling him a bum but you are forgetting that you're calling for him to fight a guy who is a gold medalist and was a top 3 p4p fighter! Not to mention the guy is in a heavier weight class. That DOESN'T make any sense. Why would you want a bum to fight one of the best fighters in the world but make excuses for the best fighter in the world to avoid his mandatory on the grounds that his mandatory is not well known?
FACT 6: multitasking is real. So to say his unification is pointless shows you don't know what you're talking about. (Refer to fact 1.)
Stop this GGG hate. It's one thing to have an opinion but at least back it up with facts and not "oh he's fighting bums" without knowing some history of the guys he is fighting and how they're ranked. He isn't fighting guys ranked 17th like that bitch ass nigga Cotto. He isn't sidestepping his mandatory like Floyd. He isn't going silent like Ward when bigger guys call him out (his people told Ward who exactly to call and to make an offer.)
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And to cap it off
"If I move up, it's gonna be the right time...I'm held to a different standard, and I'm not complaining about it. I embrace it...some of the reasoning for people to want me to move up, like, to me it's a standard thing...they want me to move up because it's a perceived threat up there...they're making it seem like these fights are too easy, that there's nobody to fight, and the reality is there's a lot of guys to fight,"
guess who said that...
"If I move up, it's gonna be the right time...I'm held to a different standard, and I'm not complaining about it. I embrace it...some of the reasoning for people to want me to move up, like, to me it's a standard thing...they want me to move up because it's a perceived threat up there...they're making it seem like these fights are too easy, that there's nobody to fight, and the reality is there's a lot of guys to fight,"
guess who said that...
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It's not that hard, you guys. GGG and his camp want BIG money and PPV money. He won't get it unless he moves up since Cotto vs canelo will happen. With the WBC saying the winner of that fight will be forced to fight GGG no matter what, and De LaHoya saying Canelo won't fight GGG 'til 2 years from now, what is GGG supposed to do? GGG's camp have even come out and said that they believe the Cotto Canelo fight won't even be for the title, which I believe. This is what I hope will happen for GGG: beat Froch, maybe get JCC Jr and destroy that fucker, then fight Ward and win or lose, fight Canelo. But if he beats Ward he will be ranked #1 p4p, and Canelo becomes champ at 160, 6.1 million ppv because they will charge at the most $80 for the ppv in HD!
Battle, you are delusional. You will NEVER have a 6 million pay per view. The great liar, Manny, ensured that big PPV numbers in boxing won't happen until like 2634 AD.
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The Floyd Manny fight could have reached those numbers if they had a better undercard and if it were $20 cheaper. We don't even know how the undercard for a fight like Canelo vs GGG would happen if it were to map out the way we would all like it to be. Don't forget, GBP had the best undercard ppv fights when Floyd had his first ppv's with Showtime, especially the May Canelo fight. After that, haymon gave us bullshit
Heresy that book you wrote doesnt matter. I know all about GGG and I never called him a bum. I just want him to fight better competition. You guys say he wants to unify the MW which is fine but if he calls out Froch than that means he is moving up so in that case he needs to fight Ward also. Thats all I am saying. Got Em!!
What part of he has called out Froch in 2013 do you not understand? What part of he has called out Ward in 2014 do you not understand? And not only did he call out Ward, his guy told Ward and his people who to contact exactly. Not no "talk to my manager" shit like manny, but a specific name and to make an offer. No word from Ward.
And I get what you're saying bro. You want the man to fight better people. However, 206 has a very good point about his situation being very similar Bernard's.
And I get what you're saying bro. You want the man to fight better people. However, 206 has a very good point about his situation being very similar Bernard's.
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Keith Thurman to headline ESPN's debut of Premier Boxing Champions
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Welterweight titleholder Keith Thurman, one of boxing's rising stars, was picked to headline the first-ever Premier Boxing Champions card on NBC in prime time last March because of his enormous potential both in terms of boxing talent and marketability. For those same reasons, Thurman was picked to headline the debut of the PBC on ESPN.
Thurman will make his second title defense when he takes on former titlist Luis Collazo on July 11 (ESPN, 9 p.m. ET with preliminary bout to stream live on ESPN3.com) at a venue to be determined in Tampa, about 20 minutes from Thurman's hometown of Clearwater, Florida, the network said on Thursday.
Keith Thurman beat Robert Guerrero in March, and now the welterweight titleholder will make his next defense on ESPN. Harry How/Getty Images
Thurman said it was an honor for him to be tabbed as the featured fighter for the inaugural PBC cards on NBC and now ESPN.
"I am very happy to be where I am in my career," Thurman told ESPN.com. "Boxing is opening back up to the people and it's been a dream of mine to be a true champion, and there's no better form of that than being the people's champion. (The PBC) is opening up doors that will give the world class fighters the exposure that they need. I want to be the American people's champion. There is nothing better than getting the exposure, giving the fans great fights and being cheered by the public."
Thurman (25-0, 21 KOs), 26, one of boxing's biggest hitters and crowd-pleasing fighters, made his first title defense on March 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, dropping former two-division titleholder Robert Guerrero, a southpaw, in the ninth round and winning a one-sided decision in a hard-hitting fight.
Thurman will be fighting his first significant bout in his home region and is pumped for it. He has not fought there since an eight-rounder in Tampa in 2009.
"This is the first time coming home with something major, so I am extremely excited about it," Thurman said. "It's a dream come true."
Thurman, who grew up around area fighters Winky Wright, the former undisputed junior middleweight champion, and former super middleweight titlist Jeff Lacy -- they all shared trainer Dan Birmingham -- said he remembers how excited the area was when major fights took place there.
"I remember when Winky and Jeff fought here in Tampa, how electric the city was," Thurman said. "Tampa is a great boxing town but we only make fights happen when champions are in town. I'm happy to fight a big fight at home and happy to make one of my dreams come true."
Collazo (36-6, 19 KOs), a 34-year-old southpaw from New York, held a welterweight title in 2005 and 2006 before losing it by controversial decision to Ricky Hatton. In January 2014, Collazo knocked out former titleholder Victor Ortiz in the second round in a mild upset but four months later he lost a one-sided decision to former unified junior welterweight titlist Amir Khan on the Floyd Mayweather-Marcos Maidana I undercard.
After 11 months off, Collazo, who had contemplated retirement, returned on April 11 to score a second-round knockout of club fighter Christopher Degollado.
"Collazo always comes to fight," Thurman said. "He has been in with some of the best fighters in the world and he has tons of experience. Fighting another southpaw, we'll be prepared. I'm looking forward to it and I'm looking forward to giving the fans what they love to see -- action. July 11 is going to be a night full of action. Might as well call the fight 'Fireworks,' since it's in July."
The scheduled 10-round co-feature will be a pair of junior middleweights who have had multiple bouts on ESPN2's Friday Night Fights - rising prospect Tony Harrison and contender Willie Nelson.
Harrison (21-0, 18 KOs), 24, of Detroit, was a protégée of the late Hall of Fame trainer and Detroit legend Emanuel Steward. He has knocked out 10 opponents in a row, including Antwone Smith in the second round in March and Pablo Munguia in the third round in April, both on FNF. But he is taking a major step up in competition against Nelson (23-2-1, 13 KOs), 28, of Cleveland.
Nelson was on the verge of a title shot when he saw his seven-fight winning streak come to an end in October when he lost a competitive 10-round bout to fellow contender Vanes Martirosyan.
The card will be the first of 24 monthly PBC cards on ESPN shows through July 2017, with PBC holding an option for six more shows that could extend the deal through the end of 2017. PBC on ESPN will replace Friday Night Fights, which will end its 17-year run with the Boxcino tournament finals this week.
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Welterweight titleholder Keith Thurman, one of boxing's rising stars, was picked to headline the first-ever Premier Boxing Champions card on NBC in prime time last March because of his enormous potential both in terms of boxing talent and marketability. For those same reasons, Thurman was picked to headline the debut of the PBC on ESPN.
Thurman will make his second title defense when he takes on former titlist Luis Collazo on July 11 (ESPN, 9 p.m. ET with preliminary bout to stream live on ESPN3.com) at a venue to be determined in Tampa, about 20 minutes from Thurman's hometown of Clearwater, Florida, the network said on Thursday.
Keith Thurman beat Robert Guerrero in March, and now the welterweight titleholder will make his next defense on ESPN. Harry How/Getty Images
Thurman said it was an honor for him to be tabbed as the featured fighter for the inaugural PBC cards on NBC and now ESPN.
"I am very happy to be where I am in my career," Thurman told ESPN.com. "Boxing is opening back up to the people and it's been a dream of mine to be a true champion, and there's no better form of that than being the people's champion. (The PBC) is opening up doors that will give the world class fighters the exposure that they need. I want to be the American people's champion. There is nothing better than getting the exposure, giving the fans great fights and being cheered by the public."
Thurman (25-0, 21 KOs), 26, one of boxing's biggest hitters and crowd-pleasing fighters, made his first title defense on March 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, dropping former two-division titleholder Robert Guerrero, a southpaw, in the ninth round and winning a one-sided decision in a hard-hitting fight.
Thurman will be fighting his first significant bout in his home region and is pumped for it. He has not fought there since an eight-rounder in Tampa in 2009.
"This is the first time coming home with something major, so I am extremely excited about it," Thurman said. "It's a dream come true."
Thurman, who grew up around area fighters Winky Wright, the former undisputed junior middleweight champion, and former super middleweight titlist Jeff Lacy -- they all shared trainer Dan Birmingham -- said he remembers how excited the area was when major fights took place there.
"I remember when Winky and Jeff fought here in Tampa, how electric the city was," Thurman said. "Tampa is a great boxing town but we only make fights happen when champions are in town. I'm happy to fight a big fight at home and happy to make one of my dreams come true."
Collazo (36-6, 19 KOs), a 34-year-old southpaw from New York, held a welterweight title in 2005 and 2006 before losing it by controversial decision to Ricky Hatton. In January 2014, Collazo knocked out former titleholder Victor Ortiz in the second round in a mild upset but four months later he lost a one-sided decision to former unified junior welterweight titlist Amir Khan on the Floyd Mayweather-Marcos Maidana I undercard.
After 11 months off, Collazo, who had contemplated retirement, returned on April 11 to score a second-round knockout of club fighter Christopher Degollado.
"Collazo always comes to fight," Thurman said. "He has been in with some of the best fighters in the world and he has tons of experience. Fighting another southpaw, we'll be prepared. I'm looking forward to it and I'm looking forward to giving the fans what they love to see -- action. July 11 is going to be a night full of action. Might as well call the fight 'Fireworks,' since it's in July."
The scheduled 10-round co-feature will be a pair of junior middleweights who have had multiple bouts on ESPN2's Friday Night Fights - rising prospect Tony Harrison and contender Willie Nelson.
Harrison (21-0, 18 KOs), 24, of Detroit, was a protégée of the late Hall of Fame trainer and Detroit legend Emanuel Steward. He has knocked out 10 opponents in a row, including Antwone Smith in the second round in March and Pablo Munguia in the third round in April, both on FNF. But he is taking a major step up in competition against Nelson (23-2-1, 13 KOs), 28, of Cleveland.
Nelson was on the verge of a title shot when he saw his seven-fight winning streak come to an end in October when he lost a competitive 10-round bout to fellow contender Vanes Martirosyan.
The card will be the first of 24 monthly PBC cards on ESPN shows through July 2017, with PBC holding an option for six more shows that could extend the deal through the end of 2017. PBC on ESPN will replace Friday Night Fights, which will end its 17-year run with the Boxcino tournament finals this week.
Thats fine that he called out people back when. My point is 206 said he wants to unify the MW division so thats why he doesnt have to fight Ward. But next thing you know he wants to fight Froch which means he is cool with fighting a 168 pounder. And since he wants to fight the best than fight Ward not the dude Ward pummeled. Got Em!!