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CZAR

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Yea Cotto will pretty much fight anyone but this was all about a big payday. He knows his days are coming to an end and was trying to get the best payday with the lowest risk possible. Obviously Canelo was a bigger risk so he went with Martinez. I see Martinez winning this fight by decision or late tko. Got Em!!
 
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Yea Cotto will pretty much fight anyone but this was all about a big payday. He knows his days are coming to an end and was trying to get the best payday with the lowest risk possible. Obviously Canelo was a bigger risk so he went with Martinez. I see Martinez winning this fight by decision or late tko. Got Em!!
Martinez is a bigger risk because he's not as good as Martinez nor is he a middleweight. He has no belt I'm sure that's a huge factor for Cotto this is also about legacy for him.
 
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Cotto with Freddie roach= beastin, yea I know he fought rodriguez but give a lil props to cotto to tho dude looked like a monster! a man on a mission. it'll be interesting how cotto deals with Martinez size...
 

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Martinez is a bigger risk because he's not as good as Martinez nor is he a middleweight. He has no belt I'm sure that's a huge factor for Cotto this is also about legacy for him.
I think Canelo is just as big if not bigger than Martinez. Just cause he fights at 154 doesnt mean he is smaller. Dude blows up on fight night. Not only that but I think Canelo would ko Cotto a lot quicker than Martinez would especially with Cotto's fighting style. Guess well never know as he can only fight one of them. Got Em!!
 

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I was thinking about this earlier. Cotto looked really good against Floyd, crappy against Trout (who then lost to Canelo and Lara). Cotto came back to beat Rodriguez who is like a C+ fighter. Cotto has done this multiple times. Comes off a loss, beats the crap out of someone who isn't that good, goes back into a big fight. If Martinez is even 80% of who he was 2 years ago, I think he wins. If not, Cotto should be able to walk him down.
 
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Sergio Martinez to Miguel Cotto: 'I need to be treated with dignity'
by Lem Satterfield
Dec 24th, 2013
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Sergio Martinez "would love to fight" three-division titlewinner Miguel Cotto on June 7 at Madison Square Garden in New York, but THE RING/WBC 160-pound champ says "I need to be treated with dignity" through his advisor, Sampson Lewkowicz.

Martinez (51-2-2, 28 knockouts), speaking from Buenos Aires, Argentina, responded in the wake of Cotto (38-4, 31 KOs) having publicly informed Puerto Rican media members on Monday "I want to go with Martinez."

"I will fight him, with no problem, on June 7, and I'm waiting for the negotiations to be finalized," said Martinez, who turns 39 in February. "I'm very interested in the fight, but I'm the champion and Cotto is the challenger. I would love to fight Cotto, but I need to be treated with dignity."

Cotto, who has fought at junior middleweight since 2010, looked sharp and powerful stopping fringe contender Delvin Rodriguez in the third round in October, and was offered a deal worth in excess of $10 million by Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer to face junior middleweight standout Canelo Alvarez.

Alvarez was dethroned by Floyd Mayweather Jr. as RING and WBC 154-pound champion in September, and is scheduled to fight on March 8, July 26 and Nov. 22 of 2014.

Although he is "a free agent," according to his legal advisor, Gaby Penagaricano, Cotto both fought Mayweather and lost to Austin Trout in December of last year while working with Golden Boy Promotions.

But Cotto aligned with Golden Boy rival Top Rank for his fight with Rodriguez.

Penagaricano could not be reached for an immediate comment and a widely reported $15 million offer for Cotto to face Martinez has not been confirmed.

Martinez's promoter, Lou DiBella, who is in negotiations with Top Rank, made similar remarks on Puerto Rican website elnuevodia.com to those of Martinez.

"Cotto is a superstar and Sergio respects [him.] He deserves this fight," said DiBella. "But the champion is Sergio, and [he wants] to be treated as such.

Cotto was in Macau last month with Top Rank CEO, Bob Arum, where he was ringside for welterweight Manny Pacquiao's unanimous decision victory over Brandon Rios.

At the time, Arum said he had no knowledge of a $15 million offer to Cotto, adding that his stepson, Top Rank President, Todd duBoef, was handling the Cotto-Martinez negotiations.

On Monday, however, Arum expressed satisfaction in the wake of Cotto's public statements about a potential bout with Martinez, according to elnuevodia.com.

"It's great news," said Arum, in part. "Sure to be a great show and one of the best fights of 2014."

In a text to RingTV.com, Nathan Lewkowicz, son of Sampson, indicated that talks are ongoing.

"Nothing confirmed with Cotto yet," wrote Nathan Lewkowicz. "DiBella is still negotiating many, many details with Todd and Gaby."

DiBella is similarly optimistic.

"Miguel wants the fight. Sergio wants the fight. Top Rank wants the fight. I appreciate Cotto," said DiBella. "I have a good relationship with Gaby and always negotiated smoothly with Todd. So I see no obstacle that prevents a satisfactory agreement for all."

Over the course of his last three fights, Martinez had to rise from the canvas during an 11th-round stoppage of Matthew Macklin as well as each of his past two unanimous decision victories over Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Martin Murray.

After the Chavez fight, during which he regained the WBC's belt, Martinez received eight stitches to repair a cut over his left eye, two staples in his head, and suffered from both a broken left hand and torn ligaments in his right knee, the latter of which required surgery to repair.

Martinez required a second surgery after having damaged the knee injury, later determined to be a torn right meniscus, after his triumph over Murray.
 

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I was thinking about this earlier. Cotto looked really good against Floyd, crappy against Trout (who then lost to Canelo and Lara). Cotto came back to beat Rodriguez who is like a C+ fighter. Cotto has done this multiple times. Comes off a loss, beats the crap out of someone who isn't that good, goes back into a big fight. If Martinez is even 80% of who he was 2 years ago, I think he wins. If not, Cotto should be able to walk him down.
Agreed. When Cotto fought Rodriguez everyone here, except for myself, was oblivious to the fact that Rodriguez isn't a top tier fighter and shouldn't have been in the ring.
 
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Thing is Trout was effective against Cotto cuz of his size and the way he fights which is a come forward fighter. Sergio will try to fight on the outside so his size aint gonna mean shit. I dont think Sergio is even that much bigger then Cotto. Trout might be bigger then Sergio. Honestly either 2 things is gonna happen, Cotto will either get out jabbed in a boring fight cuz Sergio will be a runner or Cotto will cut off the ring well like hes usually good at doing and beat the shit out of Sergio. I dont think Sergio will be able to fight comfortable like hes use to doing with his hands down jabbing and dodging.
 
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Agreed. When Cotto fought Rodriguez everyone here, except for myself, was oblivious to the fact that Rodriguez isn't a top tier fighter and shouldn't have been in the ring.
No that's not true I said Rodriguez was a good fighter not elite. It was a great comeback fight for Cotto but I don't think too many people are convinced "he's back", maybe some knee jerk reactions at the time but Cotto is clearly past his best days
 
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Thing is Trout was effective against Cotto cuz of his size and the way he fights which is a come forward fighter. Sergio will try to fight on the outside so his size aint gonna mean shit. I dont think Sergio is even that much bigger then Cotto. Trout might be bigger then Sergio. Honestly either 2 things is gonna happen, Cotto will either get out jabbed in a boring fight cuz Sergio will be a runner or Cotto will cut off the ring well like hes usually good at doing and beat the shit out of Sergio. I dont think Sergio will be able to fight comfortable like hes use to doing with his hands down jabbing and dodging.
That's what Trout did - he out jabbed him in a boring fight. Martinez uses movement and out boxes guys. Martinez has only struggled a bit with guys who have a high guard, low output. Because Sergio seems it difficult to split the guard and he can't do what he does best when guys aren't opening up. Cotto will be open all night.
 
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Coach E. No

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Cotto's defense isn't that good. I think Sergio could be able to counter or split his guard, especially since Cotto is smaller. Cotto has been handcuffing himself the last several years and countering less. Freddie doesn't exactly teach guys to counter all that well so I doubt he's going to fix Cotto's defensive problems or teach him to counter BUT the fight is 6 months from now so I guess we'll see what happens. The fight is interesting on paper no matter how it ends up. That's all fans can ask for.