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Martz: Gotta get the ball to Gore

http://www.49ers.com/blog49/?p=75

Isaac Bruce didn’t have a catch in last Sunday’s game against Arizona, and tight end Vernon Davis only had three. That doesn’t worry 49ers offensive coordinator Mike Martz. Getting the ball in the hands of Frank Gore does.



“I don’t worry about anybody other than Frank on how many touches they get,” said Martz. “Frank has to touch the ball. He is one of the very, very elite (guys) in the league, so we know we have to feature him and find ways to get him the ball. Isaac and Vernon, all of the other guys, B.J., are all good players, and they’ll have their opportunities, but the only guy you go into a game saying you know what this guy needs to touch the ball X amount of times is Frank.”



Martz said he has a number of touches in mind, but declined to share.



Martz did share a few other concerns and non-concerns in a Thursday early-afternoon chat with local reporters.



His top concern - protecting the ball.



“The turnovers really bothered me. The rest of it, there was real progress aside from the errors. But the things we do to ourselves, we’ve got to stop doing.”



Although J.T. O’Sullivan was credited for three of the turnovers, Martz indicated that only one fell on him.



“He had a strip, I wouldn’t credit him for that fumble. On the interception we had a broken route, we didn’t run the right route. The ball was thrown right where it needed to be thrown. The last fumble at the end of the game, he had an opportunity to better protect the ball. That might have been one play where he was a little careless with the ball, but those other two…”



Oh and by the way, in Martz’s opinion, O’Sullivan played very well in his first NFL regular-season start.



“The thing that affords us that we never really had (meaning he, not the 49ers), he’s so dang mobile. THere’s a couple of situations in there where he said ‘you know what, I’m not goign to make a bad play worse’ so he tucked it and took off with it. Those are the things that say ‘you know what, this guy is moving in the direction you want him to in terms of managing this game and not putting the game in jeopardy by trying to make a magic play.’ That’s something that he was so competitive, that he was doing earlier in the preseason if you remember the Oakland game. That’s disappeared. So those are the kind of things that the coaches are getting excited about.”



Back to his concerns, or rather non-concerns… Apparently, the upcoming crowd noise in Seattle isn’t one of them.



“I just never think about that. I never worry about it. I don’t mean to sound cavalier, but it takes away from your focus. We pump noise in here like everybody does but it’s the NFL, half the games are going to be like that, so you better get used to it. It’s kind of nice when it’s loud. To me, it’s what the league is about. It’s exciting when it’s loud. I like it. Players should feed off of those things and not have it a negative thing.”
 

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Coordinators' Corner: Seattle

http://www.49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=4611&section=PR News

The 49ers face the NFC West’s four-time defending champion when they travel this weekend to play the Seahawks on Sunday at Qwest Field. Take a look at the game from the viewpoint of our three coordinators.

49ers Offense/Seahawks Defense, Offensive Coordinator Mike Martz

Seattle’s defense finished fourth in the NFL last season with 45 sacks, a total that was reached by 11 different players, including 29.5 from the defensive line, 13.5 from the linebackers and 2 from their defensive backs.

That’s first and foremost what 49ers offensive coordinator Martz sees when he studies Seattle’s defense.

“They are a team with great defensive speed so we have to match that, and we have to address that,” said Martz. “By structure they are similar to most teams that we play. They are a big pressure team. I’m sure they will pressure us a great deal.”

Defensive end Patrick Kerney led the sack efforts with 14.5, good for the NFC lead. He was the only player to notch a sack last week in Seattle’s loss to Buffalo.

“I’ve always had a great respect for him,” said Martz of Kerney. “He’s a lot like Justin Smith. He’s a really good player. He replaced Grant Wistrom as their player on the edge. He’s a tall, rangy pass rushing guy they’ve been looking for and he’s helped them up front. ”

Seattle also gets a lift this week with defensive tackle Rocky Bernard returning from his league mandated suspension.

“Well, he’s a significant player obviously. He does change them dramatically up front with his presence. He is an outstanding interior player in this league and he is special so we understand that it is different with him in the lineup.”

Seattle’s linebacking corps features a pair of Pro Bowlers in Julian Petereson and Lofa Tatupu. Peterson, the former 49ers player particularly proved to be a disruptive force in last year’s series, notching four sacks and two quarterback strips.

Turnovers are an enormous concern for a 49ers offense that committed four costly ones in the season opener.

“Obviously, we cannot turn the ball over. We cannot do that. That’s our biggest concern. We have to protect the ball and manage the game better than that.”

Three of those turnovers were fumbles with the fourth an interception, one that Martz attributed to a broken route ran by a receiver. His receivers need to be on their p’s and q’s this week given
Seattle’s Pro Bowl cornerback Marcus Trufant, who finished last year with seven interceptions.
“Trufant has great awareness for the ball. He does a great job recognizing a receiver’s body language and understanding what is coming up on the route. If you are a receiver who really indicates where you are going on your route, then you are going to have a long afternoon. He’s a terrific vet, one of the elite corners in the league. It’ll be fun to see how we match up.”

Martz was asked this week about taking advantage of matchups with Isaac Bruce or Vernon Davis. He said when those matchups are there, you of course work them to your benefit, but his biggest concern is getting the ball to Frank Gore.

“I don’t worry about anybody other than Frank on how many touches they get. Frank has to touch the ball. He is one of the very, very elite (guys) in the league, so we know we have to feature him and find ways to get him the ball. Isaac and Vernon, all of the other guys, B.J., are all good players, and they’ll have their opportunities, but the only guy you go into a game saying you know what this guy needs to touch the ball X amount of times is Frank.”

Since week 16 of the 2002 season, Seattle owns a 34-7 record at home, an indication of their home field advantage. The crowd noise can be disruptive for visiting offense, but Martz feels his players should feed off the energy.

“I just never think about that. I never worry about it. I don’t mean to sound cavalier, but it takes away from your focus. We pump noise in here like everybody does but it’s the NFL, half the games are going to be like that, so you better get used to it. It’s kind of nice when it’s loud. To me, it’s what the league is about. It’s exciting when it’s loud. I like it. Players should feed off of those things and not have it a negative thing.”

49ers Defense/Seattle’s Offense, Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky

Seattle’s offense is without some key players, but they’ve still got the one who counts in Pro Bowl quarterback Matt Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck missed time this camp due to a back injury, but he started off week one and will be leading the offense again this Sunday.

“He’s a good quarterback,” said defensive coordinator Greg Manusky. “He has all the skills and talents that he’s always had. He’s a player who knows the system and gets it done. He’s a formidable task for us this week. He’s been in the system a long time. He knows the system inside and out. He’s been doing it for a while, and he’s very effective at it.”

Hasselbeck did get off to a shaky start, finding himself in the dirt five times, and completing only 17 of 41 passes for 190 yards, one touchdown and one interception.

Not helping him any was the absence of starting receivers, Deion Branch and Bobby Engram and the early exit of Nate Burleson, who will now be out for the year.

Branch began practicing last week after having reconstructive knee surgery, but was still limited in practice again this week. His status should be updated by the end of the day as team’s turn in their expectations for injured player come game day.

“Branch is a talented guy. He knows the offense, and he’s fast, quick, has good hands and all of the skills and tools. He’s gotten big plays on us before and he’s someone who has to be accounted for if he’s in there.”

Given their need at receiver, Seattle signed Sammie Parker and Billy McMullen this week to complement Courtney Taylor and Logan Payne, who saw playing time against Buffalo. They also recruited backup quarterback Seneca Wallace to work with the receiving corps this week.

“As a quarterback, Seneca definitely knows the system. He’s got great athletic ability and he knows where receivers should be from playing quarterback. He’s a good sized guy, he’s quick, and he’s fast.”

The inexperience at receiver would seemingly serve as an advantage for the 49ers secondary, but it offers its challenges too.

“It’s a little tough because we don’t know that much about them. But we are going to play our defense. Even though we concern ourselves with Seattle and what they do, we have to make sure we take care of what we are supposed to do as well.”

With last week’s game getting out of hand in Buffalo, Seattle detoured from their run game. Though they are now without last week’s starter Maurice Morris, who is out with a knee sprain, the Seahawks have their free-agent off-season acquisitions to fall back on in Julius Jones and TJ Duckett.

“Jones has some experience from his time in Dallas. He’s got good speed, he can take it to the edge, and he’s a talented guy. In talking to some of the coaches down in Dallas, they really liked him. Duckett is a bigger guy. He has good feet, good vision and he can find a hole. He’s a big boy, and you have to bring him down.”

Like any team, Seattle needs its offensive line to make things go. The unit picked up Mike Wahle this off-season to play along perennial Pro Bowl left tackle Walter Jones.

“Walter Jones is one of the elite guys and will be for a number of years. He’s a talented guy and trying to get guys to rush against him is difficult. He’s a good player. All of their guys are hard workers, and you can see that on the film in the way they compete. With Wahle coming into the mix, he’s a hard-nosed player who plays well. That’s an added bonus for them.”

Seattle’s line does have to compensate for the season-ending loss of starting right guard Rob Sims. They were also without Sean Locklear, who has still yet to practice again this week with a knee injury.

The 49ers defense will look to attack that line and build on last week’s three sacks, but more importantly, the unit could use some turnovers. The 49ers committed five of their own last week, and failed to get a single takeaway of their own.

“We have to create turnovers definitely. Seattle is a good football team, they have been. They’ve won the division, we understand that, we know where they are at, where they’ve been and we’re trying to get there, and we need to get out there and win the turnover ratio.”

49ers/Seahawks Special Teams, Coordinator Al Everest

Seattle’s special teams unit has undergone an overhaul, starting this off-season and continuing over the past few days.

First up, the Seahawks replaced kicker Josh Brown, who left via free agency for the Rams, with veteran kicker Olindo Mare. Mare struggled in 2007 while kicking for the Saints, but he looks to be back in top form and recovered from his injuries.

“Mare is a longtime veteran,” said special teams coach Al Everest. “He’s a big, power kickoff guy with good range on his field goals. He’s a good pro. They picked up a good player in place of Josh Brown. He’s driving the ball well, and kicking the ball off well.”

Seattle also pulled the trigger on their punter, releasing Ryan Plackemeier and signing Green Bay’s former punter Jon Ryan.

“Plackemeier struggled a little bit last week, but he had a lot of pressure on him. Buffalo did a nice real job of pressuring him and making him short kick the ball.”

The 49ers faced Ryan just a few weeks ago when they played Green Bay in the preseason. In that matchup, returner Allen Rossum took one of his punts back for a 67-yard touchdown.

“Ryan is a directional punter and tries to help the coverage units by putting it into a third of the field. He’s very similar from what I’ve seen to Plackemeier, same body language, same setups and does the same type of directional stuff they had Plackemeier doing.”

Seattle also switched long snappers this year, signing 15-year veteran Jeff Robinson.

“I believe he was in retirement. He’s a pretty good snapper and has done it for a long time. He is one of a bunch of changes in their personnel and skill people.”

One last skill positional change is at punt returner, a responsibility that was Burleson’s. When he went out with injury, Seattle relied on Seneca Wallace. They could opt to use newly signed Parker though this week.

“Parker did returns for Carolina in their last preseason game. He’s got outstanding speed, and some ability back there. We’ll see who they go with.”

Seattle should at least be sticking with Josh Wilson as their kickoff returner. Wilson returned 15 kicks for 385 yards and one touchdown.

“He had an excellent average last year. He’s explosive, with good speed. He is not a big and strong guy, but if he finds a seam he can hit it.”

Seattle also lost their leading special teams tackler in free agency in linebacker Niko Koutouvides.

“He was an outstanding player for them, but they’ve still got some core guys returning for them. Lance Laury was second on their team last year, and they’ve got linebackers DD Lewis and David Hawthorne involved this year, as well as safety C.J. Wallace. So, they’ve got their core guys, and we’ve got ours.”

Seattle’s loss to Buffalo came down to special teams. Craig Terrill did block a field goal for them, but they had a 63-yard punt return for a touchdown scored on them, as well as a fake field goal.

“Roscoe Parrish could have made a lot of teams look bad on that play. He made guys miss. Then on the fake, they threw a sleeper play, just acted like the guy is not supposed to be out there and then they threw it to him and scored on that.”

Similar to the 49ers, they also lost an offensive possession when they fumbled on the kickoff return. Both turnovers led to touchdowns for their opposition.

“They got their feelings hurt, just like we got ours hurt. They’ve got some stuff to clean up, and we’ve got some stuff to clean up. We’ll be ready on Sunday. Everybody has talent, we’ve got to get ours playing on the same page, make some adjustments and clean up what we need to.”
 

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GameScout: 49ers at Seahawks

http://sea.scout.com/2/789829.html

With a rookie at tight end in John Carlson, QB Matt Hasselbeck has no comfortable targets downfield. He also has no comfort in his line, which struggled mightily in week 1 and must account for 49ers DE Justin Smith, who lined up at seven different positions in the opener.

GAME SNAPSHOT
KICKOFF: Sunday, 4:05 ET
GAMEDATE: 9/14/08
SURFACE: FieldTurf
TV: FOX (Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston, Tony Siragusa)
SERIES: 19th meeting. Seahawks lead the series 10-8, including victories in both games last season. The Seahawks outscored the 49ers 47-3 in two games a year ago.
KEYS TO THE GAME: The 49ers will run RB Frank Gore between the tackles in an effort to overpower the Seahawks' smallish front seven. Gore will also be involved in the passing game as San Francisco attempts to take the bite out of the Seahawks' pass rush. QB J.T. O'Sullivan won't be asked to win the game - just manage it - after the 49ers self destructed with a minus-five turnover ratio in their opener. ... The Seahawks' wide receiver woes are well documented - their top four will be sidelined and a pair of second-year players will start. With a rookie at tight end in John Carlson, QB Matt Hasselbeck has no comfortable targets downfield. He also has no comfort in his line, which struggled mightily in week 1 and must account for 49ers DE Justin Smith, who lined up at seven different positions in the opener.

KEY INJURIES: 49ers: C Eric Heitmann (right shoulder) is expected to start. Seahawks: RG Rob Sims (pectoral) is out for the season, replaced by Floyd Womack; RT Sean Locklear (knee) is expected to return next week; WR Deion Branch (knee) is practicing but will not play this week; RB Mo Morris (knee sprain) is out at least two weeks.

FAST FACTS: Gore has averaged 6.2 yards per carry in four career starts against Seattle. ... Hasselbeck has a 97.2 passer rating with 21 TDs in 10 career starts against San Francisco.

PERSONNEL NEWS:

49ers

Offensive coordinator Mike Martz liked a lot of what he saw from the San Francisco 49ers' 23-13 loss to the Arizona Cardinals. After all, the 49ers gained 291 yards of total offense despite being on the field for just 44 snaps. "We all, as coaches, expect them to be perfect all the time whether or not you're disappointed," Martz said. "The turnovers really bother me. The rest of it, there was real progress in a lot of areas there."

The 49ers return to action Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks. Martz said he likes what he has seen from quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan, and he's pleased with the group of playmakers on offense. Tight end Vernon Davis caught a 37-yard pass in the season opener, which was longer than any play in which he was involved a year ago. Davis finished with three receptions for 51 yards.

"If we have the opportunity for him to make a play then we'll do that but don't worry about anybody but Frank (Gore) on how many touches they get," Martz said. "Frank has to touch the ball. He's got to be one of the very, very elite in this league. We know we have to feature him and find ways of getting him the ball."

Gore carried 14 times for 96 yards and caught a team-high four passes for 55 yards for the 49ers. Martz does not mind spreading the ball around to his other players, but he knows the one guy he wants to touch the ball over and over.

"Isaac (Bruce) and Vernon and all the other guys, they're all good players and they'll have their opportunities," Martz said. "But (Gore is) the only guy that you go into a game and say, 'You know what? This guys needs to touch the ball.'"

Does that mean that Martz has a number of times in mind that he wants Gore to touch the ball on a given week? "Yes, I do," Martz said. "(But it's) nothing that I would ever share with you guys."

Seahawks

--CB Marcus Trufant injured his hand in Thursday's practice. He is probable for Sunday's game.
--LB Lofa Tatupu, who injured his right thumb in Sunday's loss, is wearing a cast on his hand. He will play Sunday.
--WR Deion Branch went through practice with Seattle but at only about half speed. He is not likely to play until Week 5.
--RB Maurice Morris sat out practice with a sprained knee and will not play against the Niners.
--OT Sean Locklear sat out Thursday's practice and will not play Sunday.
--If WR Michael Bumpus has a good week of practice, he could be activated off the practice squad for Sunday's game.


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Offensive coordinator Mike Martz liked a lot of what he saw from the San Francisco 49ers' 23-13 loss to the Arizona Cardinals. After all, the 49ers gained 291 yards of total offense despite being on the field for just 44 snaps. "We all, as coaches, expect them to be perfect all the time whether or not you're disappointed," Martz said. "The turnovers really bother me. The rest of it, there was real progress in a lot of areas there."

The 49ers return to action Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks. Martz said he likes what he has seen from quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan, and he's pleased with the group of playmakers on offense.

Tight end Vernon Davis caught a 37-yard pass in the season opener, which was longer than any play in which he was involved a year ago. Davis finished with three receptions for 51 yards.

"If we have the opportunity for him to make a play then we'll do that but don't worry about anybody but Frank (Gore) on how many touches they get," Martz said "Frank has to touch the ball. He's got to be one of the very, very elite in this league. We know we have to feature him and find ways of getting him the ball."

Gore carried 14 times for 96 yards and caught a team-high four passes for 55 yards for the 49ers. Martz does not mind spreading the ball around to his other players, but he knows the one guy he wants to touch the ball over and over.

Seahawks

Upon first glance, it looks as if the Seattle Seahawks defense was torched by the Buffalo Bills in Seattle's 34-10 loss on Sunday. But while defensive coordinator John Marshall was not entirely happy with the outcome, he said the defense, which returns 11 starters, actually had a decent say considering the special teams could be blamed for giving up 24 points.

"Did we play badly? No, we didn't," Marshall said. "We had a number of three-and-outs and we made them punt the ball a bunch of times. But we didn't make plays and we didn't create turnovers.

"We were OK but we were not good enough. We didn't get it done. Our expectation in a game like that in that environment is to play better than that."

With the Seahawks offense saddled by numerous injuries this week, the Seahawks are relying on the defense to give it a chance against the San Francisco 49ers, who have attempted to ramp up their scoring by hiring offensive coordinator Mike Martz.

Two years ago, Niners running back Frank Gore gained 212 yards in one game and 144 yards in another game, both San Francisco victories.

Last year, the Seahawks placed more of a focus on Gore and limited him to a combined 151 yards in two games, which the Seahawks swept by a combined score of 47-3.

"We played very well against him, we would like to think we prepared differently and it was advantageous to us, but to say that we have him figured out, I wouldn't go that far," Marshall said. "It would be nice to say we have him figured out though."

The Seahawks must stop Gore this Sunday if they are going to be able to get to Niners quarterback J.T. O'Sullivan, who is starting only his second NFL game. The Bills stymied Seattle's pass rush by using max protection and having Trent Edwards dink and dunk on short routes to loosen up the defense.
 

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Notes from Friday's Practice

http://www.49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=4612&section=PR News

49ers starting center Eric Heitmann returned to practice on Friday after missing the last two days of work, and is probable for Sunday's game against Seattle. Heitmann injured his shoulder last week in the 49ers game against Arizona, left for a series or so, and then finished out the game.

Cornerback Donald Strickland missed his third straight day with a knee injury and is questionable for Sunday.

For Seattle,receiver Deion Branch was limited in practice all week and is listed as doubtful. Even though it looks like the Seahawks won't have their typical elite receiving group, head coach Mike Nolan said he would still feel better about having Strickland available on Sunday.

"They are going to use the personnel groups they always use and so we’ll try to match them as best we can," said Nolan. "You always want your best players. Obviously, if Strickland’s healthy, then I’d like him in there. It doesn’t make it any less important, the fact that their nicked because he’s one of our better players.”

Seattle's starters at receiver on Sunday should be a pair of second-year receivers in Logan Payne and Courtney Taylor. Backup quarterback Seneca Wallace was also worked at receiver in practice this week, but it's a very inexperienced group going up a very veteran 49ers secondary.

Based on 2008 opening day starting lineups, the 49ers back end, comprised of Walt Harris, Mark Roman, Michael Lewis and Nate Clements, have more combined playing experience than any other NFL team.

Nolan announced the three captains for this weekend's game following Friday's final practice. Isaac Bruce will serve as the captain of the offense, Justin Smith will serve as captain of the defense, and Manny Lawson will serve as the special teams captain.

The team will have a walk-thru at the team's facility and then fly out on Saturday to Seattle.
 

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NO YOU CAN'T. I GUARANTEE THE SAME TYPE OF LOSS HAPPENS TO THE NINERS MORE THAN ONCE THIS SEASON.
Agreed...

Just for the fuck of it... let's look at some of the Niners games from last season...

Pittsburg 16-37 L
Seattle 23-2 L
New York Giants 15-33 L
New Orleans 31-10 L
Seattle 0-24 L
Carolina 14-31 L
Minnesota 27-7 L

I know this was last season... and those games weren't as bad as the Raiders game against Denver... but I'm just saying... if you guys play anything like last year you're gonna have quite a few games where you get stomped out pretty bad

that's almost half your schedule right there that you guys got SCRAPED
 
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just stop it....stop tryin to justify ur loss....Y u gotta bring up past shit 4?!....lol


FACT 9er's have been tryin to rebuild they're team for some time now w/talent coming and going. We'll get it someday not this year tho, so stop tryin to say the 9ers gonna suck and all this other shit...FACT we will be better this year....FACT Raiders alway's get "great" talent but cant do shit with it..FACT Al Davis is still alive (figure that 1 out!)


Y u hate the 9er's so much anyway?..........U guy's seem to alway's sign somebody that have been w/ the 9er's @ some point..
 

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just stop it....stop tryin to justify ur loss....Y u gotta bring up past shit 4?!....lol

lol... like Niners fans NEVER bring up the past... how many times have I heard "WE GOT FIVE, WE GOT FIVE!" fuck outta here


FACT 9er's have been tryin to rebuild they're team for some time now w/talent coming and going. We'll get it someday not this year tho, so stop tryin to say the 9ers gonna suck and all this other shit...

ok... but they will suck this year... FACT!!! lol

FACT we will be better this year....

haha... you dunno that for a FACT bruh... it's called a prediction... look up the definition of a FACT and get back to me

FACT Raiders alway's get "great" talent but cant do shit with it.. FACT Al Davis is still alive (figure that 1 out!)

I agree we have a problem at the top with Al Davis and I've gone on record saying that.. check other posts I've made


Y u hate the 9er's so much anyway?..........

Honestly I hate the niners so much because of their gay ass fans... I mean I'll admit some of my best friends are niners fans... but in general yall dudes talk hella shit and think your team is waaaay better than the Raiders... when that aint the case

U guy's seem to alway's sign somebody that have been w/ the 9er's @ some point..

Not always... I guess we do sometimes... I'm sure Al Davis isn't gonna NOT sign somebody from the niners because his fans don't like them... wtf...
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alway's back and forth when the truth is both teams havent done shit in years.........



Ur still tryin to justify ur loss last week tho....
I'll flat out admit the niners had too many turnovers. Which cost us in the end!

in general yall dudes talk hella shit and think your team is waaaay better than the Raiders
This is the main reason y u hate niner fans...WTF like raider fans dont do the same shit?! So it's ok for raider fan's to talk shit but not niner fans?! GTFO of here with that bullshit excuse...Be real, that shit aint no real excuse!!! What fan isnt gonna talk shit about an opposing team?!

To bring up the past....LOL
The niners Franchise is better than the Raiders....Look it up and get back to me!!!!



Oh and to answer ur question:

FACT - something that actually exists; reality; truth



Niners Defense has improved from the years past, as well as special teams and offense......So since that is reality and truth, i guess we'll call it a fact.


I'd love to keep debating about which team sux more but my baby boy is crying and it's my turn to feed him his formula...
 

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well this is too much fun... so I gotta keep going...
alway's back and forth when the truth is both teams havent done shit in years.........

agreed... nuf said



Ur still tryin to justify ur loss last week tho....
I'll flat out admit the niners had too many turnovers. Which cost us in the end!

when did I ever justify the loss? I NEVER did... I'll admit the Raiders played HORRIBLE on defense... which is the main reason we lost. All I'm saying is that the niners should expect to lose big this season too... they're gonna have games where they get blown out... and I pointed out they they've recently (last season which is somewhat recent) have had games where they got killed



This is the main reason y u hate niner fans...WTF like raider fans dont do the same shit?! So it's ok for raider fan's to talk shit but not niner fans?! GTFO of here with that bullshit excuse...Be real, that shit aint no real excuse!!! What fan isnt gonna talk shit about an opposing team?!

I know every team does that... you probably feel the same way about me... HATE is a strong word... I'm not gonna try to fight someone over the NFL or anything... but I'm just sayin I get sick of hearing "We got five we got five" all the time. And you have to admit... the Raiders are hated by most NFL fans... and living in the Bay most NFL fans I'm contact with are Raiders fans or Niners fans... so obviously I hear shit from Niners fans constantly

To bring up the past....LOL
The niners Franchise is better than the Raiders....Look it up and get back to me!!!!

At least you didn't tell me you guys "Got Five"


Oh and to answer ur question:

FACT - something that actually exists; reality; truth

Good job lookin that, but you're still wrong bruh... You were saying it's a FACT that you will be better than us this year... you can't claim that as a fact when only one game has happened... it doesn't EXIST because it hasn't occured yet... that's like someone saying it's a FACT the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl... noooo... it is not a FACT



Niners Defense has improved from the years past, as well as special teams and offense......So since that is reality and truth, i guess we'll call it a fact.

ok... you can call that a fact because it has already happened... cool I won't argue there


I'd love to keep debating about which team sux more but my baby boy is crying and it's my turn to feed him his formula...

I don't really got shit to say bout that... uhhh good luck with your son
all in the spirit debate though bruh... I'm just bored as fuck tonight... decided to argue on the siccness instead of spendin money at the bar
 
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Last statement im making about this niner and raider shit for the day...


U said im still wrong on the "FACT" issue cuz i said niners are going to be better than the raiders....I did not say that or imply that, i was stating that the niner's are going to be better than they were last year.....Read my 1st comment again.. I know that u never said u were trying to justify ur guys' lost, but the fact that u kept talking about how the niners lost too and that last year they did worse than the raiders 1st lost, IMO was justifying the lost ur team had last week....again that was my opinion...



BTW I like my sig too brah!!!! :cool:
 

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Rossum Added to Injury Report

http://49ers.com/blog49/?p=79


Return specialist Allen Rossum is a late Saturday add to the 49ers injury report. Rossum has a hamstring, but is probable for Sunday’s game. I expect based on probable that he would go, but if he couldn’t, the 49ers should still be in good shape in the return game. Arnaz Battle and Nate Clements are both experienced punt returners, as are Michael Robinson and Delanie Walker in the kickoff game.



The busses are about to roll for the airport, but I just got the waiver’s from Seattle and it looks like they parted ways with receiver Samie Parker and activated Michael Bumpus from the practice squad. Parker was a possibility as a punt returner for Seattle on Sunday. My guess at this point is that they’ll go with Seneca Wallace to return punts.