Floyd Money Mayweather Greatest of All Time!!
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DLH was a smart fighter. somewhat similar to Mayweather. they both don't like to take a punch so their defence are real good. that can lead to a boring fight, now (example) JJM vs Pac are exciting fights because they are warriors and none like to back down. Not very smart on them but exciting for the fans.
Floyd has a good argument for being called the GREATEST but is not on his resume of defeated fighters rather his technical genius and ring generalship. He may be the smartest most comfortable fighter I have witnessed since Whitaker. I never saw Whitaker seem troubled and lost until he got to Trinidad and at that time Parnell was waay past his prime.
sweet pea was pretty good i guess and had a good defense which is why you are wanting me to admit that sweet pea was good because your arguement from there is well if sweet pea is good then money bags is that much better because he doesnt have any losses??? is that going to be your arguement??? the thing is sweet pea didnt avoid challenges so thats my arguement!!!
My argument is that if you consider Sweet Pea one of the greatest of all time, which he is without question, then floyd must be considered up there as well.
Your whole thing was dissing floyd for not fighting in a more entertaining fashion according to your standards, which are brawls. Well Sweet Pea was rarely in any wars and was also a defensive guru. Like I said, there are many different styles of fighting. If you don't like the defense shit, don't watch those guys. But that certainly doesn't mean they aren't great because they don't fight like pacquioa or arturo gatti etc
Your whole thing was dissing floyd for not fighting in a more entertaining fashion according to your standards, which are brawls. Well Sweet Pea was rarely in any wars and was also a defensive guru. Like I said, there are many different styles of fighting. If you don't like the defense shit, don't watch those guys. But that certainly doesn't mean they aren't great because they don't fight like pacquioa or arturo gatti etc
Maybe oscar is a bit overrated but his resume is better then ANYONE in boxing. No one fought the guys he fought, period. Win or lose. No one could go through that resume undefeated.
As for losing every big fight, no way man.
Trinidad - Oscar was ROBBED. Seriously man, Tito lost that fight.
Mosley - Oscar won 1 of 2 of those fights. The second one he should have got the decision. And Mosley later admitted he was on steroids for that fight so really it should be a No Contest.
Bernard Hopkins - was too big. Oscar had no business fighting the middleweight champ of the world. He should get props for even trying.
Floyd & Pac - at the tale end of his career. Cant really fault a guy for being past his best days.
And you obviously left out the fights he did win:
Ricardo Mayorga
Luis Ramon Campas
Fernando Vargas
Javier Castillejo
Arturo Gatti
Oba Carr
Julio Cesar Chavez (x2)
Wilfredo Rivera
Hector Camacho
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Jesse James Leija
Genaro Hernandez
So no, he didn't lose every big fight. He won most, lost some, got robbed a couple times and got a couple gift victories of his own. But man, look at the names on his resume, it's almost unbelievable the talent he fought. There isn't a single fighter today with a resume like that, maybe the closest would be Holyfield.
As for losing every big fight, no way man.
Trinidad - Oscar was ROBBED. Seriously man, Tito lost that fight.
Mosley - Oscar won 1 of 2 of those fights. The second one he should have got the decision. And Mosley later admitted he was on steroids for that fight so really it should be a No Contest.
Bernard Hopkins - was too big. Oscar had no business fighting the middleweight champ of the world. He should get props for even trying.
Floyd & Pac - at the tale end of his career. Cant really fault a guy for being past his best days.
And you obviously left out the fights he did win:
Ricardo Mayorga
Luis Ramon Campas
Fernando Vargas
Javier Castillejo
Arturo Gatti
Oba Carr
Julio Cesar Chavez (x2)
Wilfredo Rivera
Hector Camacho
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Jesse James Leija
Genaro Hernandez
So no, he didn't lose every big fight. He won most, lost some, got robbed a couple times and got a couple gift victories of his own. But man, look at the names on his resume, it's almost unbelievable the talent he fought. There isn't a single fighter today with a resume like that, maybe the closest would be Holyfield.
If you read my post my arguement is clearly stated his defense looks to be inpenitreble<-------(my shot at using big words maybe too much for the sicc bwaahaahahahahahahahaaaa) i agree, maybe up there with the best but the thing is it really hasnt been tested and mosely almost broke it in the second round come to think of it but thats neither here nor there
