Do u think Manny Pacquiao is some illegal shit?

[8FIVE8]

How many people here think that Pacman is using something illegal? Whether its its steroids, growth hormone drugs, illegal wraps, brass knuckles etc.......


Me being half filipino......I'd hate to believe it, but i think he's hiding something. Not because of his KO's. But because of his denial to take the blood tests.

 

[prodigy91]

This is mayweather's work at its fullest, fans begin to feel confused and question their favorite fighters and buy into the propaganda, smh....

 

[2-0-Sixx]

why even ask this question. he's came up clean in every single drug test he's ever taken.

He agreed to take random blood & urine tests for mayweather and of course immediately after the fight. So you are wrong when you said Pacquiao didn't agree to take blood tests. He just didn't agree to 100% of what mayweather wanted and why should he? Mayweathers demands were outrageous to begin with.

It's clear what happened here - Mayweather was trying to get under pac's skin with these demands and the shit ended up spiraling out of control and completely backfired on Mr. Mayweather.

Also, as far as Pacquiao going up in weight here is something to pounder.

-When Pacquiao turned pro he weighed 106 pounds. He was 16 years old.
-When Mayweather was 16 years old he was in the amateurs still. He weighed 106 pounds.

So if people use the "pac must be juicin cuz he moved up so many weight classes" argument, then the same rules must apply for floyd too.

 

[TLALOC]

if he is or has taken something "illegal" to help his fighting career it's all got to do with timing.........If you know how long the "illegal" substance will stay in your body than timing would not be hard to accomplish.....Not saying he is or isnt but "timing" is everything.....Funny how most of these other fighters/athletes dont get a positive test but admit to using later in life, or you can just see what they have become in terms of phisique meaning before/after.......Shiiiit we all know that most of our favorite athlete/fighter has taken something "illegal" to help them along the way at one point in life. I just wouldnt be surprised.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^the only different in pac's physique really is that he isn't wieght draining himself to make the smaller weight classes anymore.

Pacquiao has walked around at 150+ for 5-8 years now at least.

When he fought at 130-135, he had to cut a lot of weight before weigh in. Then he'd rehydrate to over 140 pounds on fight night.

The difference is now he doesn't have to cut that weight. He looks so much more healthy during weigh ins.

Pacquiao at 130 pounds 24 hours before the fight:

Pacquiao at 144 pounds 24 hours before teh fight against cotto:

His face is fuller now and not caved in and not weight drained like he was before, that's because he's not dehydrading himself to make weight. He actually eats breakfast & lunch the day of the weigh in whereas before he couldn't eat anything for 24 hours and very light the entire week before weigh in.

Additionally, he grew into into his body. That's common for fighters to get bigger as they get older, especially if they turned pro as a teenager. Look at Floyd Mayweather. The man is ripped at 147 now. It's the same story for Floyd, he grew as he got older. The difference between the two is Floyd is an extremely defensive fighter, he doesn't try to KO anyone.

I'm just not seeing pac juicing. He wins by his skills and training hard. His punches that knocked down cotto for example weren't crazy power shots, they were perfectly timed shots that came at angles cotto didn't see coming. That's skills.

 

[Johnny Truelove]

it would really suck for cotto if it came out that manny was dirty poor dude would have his only 2 loses to cheaters lmao

 

[BROWN GUERRERO]

I wouldn't be surprised. Not because of his success, but because of how hard these guys work in the gym and how easy it is to get hurt. Not only Manny, but anyone that competes in combat sports.

 

[MRTHECOSE]

I don't think he's juicing.

only a hater and loser would make excuses b4 a fight.

 

[MRTHECOSE]

fuck I voted yes I meant NO!. this poll is tainted! start a new one

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

His strength and size are natural, that's for sure. Anyone can gain and drop the weight he's done, it's not hard at all.

He does something for his stamina, can't say if its illegal or not. For all I know he just has the best conditioning in the world, but he's doing something to get that. May not even be a supplement...just the perfect training routine.

His stamina stands out more to me.

 

[MOREBASS]

Obviously I'm a Manny fan (can't see how you aren't one if you like boxing), but I don't blame him for not wanting to submit to tests that could hinder his performance.


A fighter makes his living by winning fights. His whole livelihood depends on him getting in there and performing at his peak.

Submitting to tests that aren't required, and that could possibly weaken me albeit psychologically, just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not saying him using PED's is out of the question, but the same could be said about any professional athlete, and until there is a shred of evidence against Manny, which there isn't...I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[The Duke of Earl]

why even ask this question. he's came up clean in every single drug test he's ever taken.

He agreed to take random blood & urine tests for mayweather and of course immediately after the fight. So you are wrong when you said Pacquiao didn't agree to take blood tests. He just didn't agree to 100% of what mayweather wanted and why should he? Mayweathers demands were outrageous to begin with.

It's clear what happened here - Mayweather was trying to get under pac's skin with these demands and the shit ended up spiraling out of control and completely backfired on Mr. Mayweather.

Also, as far as Pacquiao going up in weight here is something to pounder.

-When Pacquiao turned pro he weighed 106 pounds. He was 16 years old.
-When Mayweather was 16 years old he was in the amateurs still. He weighed 106 pounds.

So if people use the "pac must be juicin cuz he moved up so many weight classes" argument, then the same rules must apply for floyd too.

NOW EVERYBODY STOP BEING FAGGOTS

 

[The Duke of Earl]

I wouldn't be surprised. Not because of his success, but because of how hard these guys work in the gym and how easy it is to get hurt. Not only Manny, but anyone that competes in combat sports.

this is also true for EVERY PROFESSIONAL SPORT

 

[Sucka Free]

Like someone said earlier, Pacman and Fraud both started at 106. Heres the Pacman/Mayweather numbers. Mannys weight gain has been gradual over 15 years. Mayweather did a big jump from 106 to 130 in 3 years

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=19117

Manny Pacquiao
Age 16 - 106 lbs (1995) - first professional fight no recorded amateur fight
Age 19 - 112 lbs (1998) - first championship, 6 lbs in 3 years
Age 20 - 122 lbs (1999) - first fight at super bantam, clear indication of undernourishment after being KO'd by 3K Battery
Age 24 - 126 lbs (2003) - Defeated MAB
Age 26 - 130 lbs (2005) - Loss to Morales
Age 30 - 145 (2009) KO'd Cotto


Floyd Mayweather
Age 16 - 106 lbs (1993) - first amateur fight
Age 19 - 130 lbs (1996) - first professional fight
Age 21 - 130 lbs (1998) - Won first belt
Age 25 - 135 lbs (2002) - defeated Castillo for lightweight belt
Age 27 - 140 lbs (2004) - Defeated Corley
Age 28 - 147 lbs (2005) - defeated mitchell
Age 30 - 154 lbs (2007) - defeated Dela Hoya
Age 32 - 147 lbs (2009) - defeated Marquez

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^what's more important to me is Manny's actual fight night weight, not the weigh in weight.

When manny was fighting at 130 pounds, he would come in the ring weighing around 140-145 pounds. So he would re-hydrate 10-15 pounds. That's common in boxing.

That has always been pretty steady. At 130 pounds pac would weigh on fight night around 140-145. At 135 pounds pac would weigh on fight night around 140-145. At 140 pounds (against hatton) pac would weighed in on fight night around 142-145. And against cotto he was just over 145.

So that shows he's just not cutting all that water weight and dehydrating himself anymore, he is actually fighting at his true weight.

When Floyd fought Marquez he looked pretty damn big. I don't know if there were official numbers but I'm sure he was well over 155.

The crazy thing about Pacquiao's opponent, Joshua Clottey, is that he has been known to rehydrate to 170 pounds on fight night!! So pacquiao is really going to be fighting a true middleweight. Same goes for Margarito and Paul Williams, they rehydrate a lot of pounds and are no way true welterweights, those guys are middleweights....

 

[Mayor of Tracy]

I don't know if he is. He might not be. But for anybody that doesn't know him personally to act like they know for sure that he's not, is being very naive for this day and age. After all the stuff that has come out over the years, nothing would surprise me. From Lebron James to Tiger Woods to freaking Mayweather himself. No dude would be a surprise based on history. If while living back in 1998 you would of said Mark McGwire was juicing I bet 99% of baseball fans would have jumped down your throat. The same way these Pac-man fans are doing now.

 

[localstar907]

Who cares for now.... Shit I just know Im not ordering neither fight. Pac-man and floyd wont my money get both yah asses in the same ring till then fuck both of em

 

[8FIVE8]

if he's really clean he should've took the olympic tests. Floyd agreed with all of team pac's requests. but i'm not a doctor. the blood test might take some of his punching power. isnt that Pac's reason?

 

[corinthian]

I don't think he is. I do know that pussy boy floyd takes performance enhancing drugs though. which is why he won't fight outside of nevada(the only state that allows the particular drug he uses). he shoots his hands up with a numbing agent, so his pussy ass won't feel pain when he throws punches.

 

[localstar907]

I don't think he is. I do know that pussy boy floyd takes performance enhancing drugs though(the only state that allows the particular drug he uses). which is why he won't fight outside of nevada. he shoots his hands up with a numbing agent, so his pussy ass won't feel pain when he throws punches.

oooooooK.... That was nothing but hate at it's fullest lol.