Boxing schedule for the month of June

[HERESY]

Stop trying to put words in people's mouth to justify a failing argument.

I'm not putting words in anyones mouth and there is no failed argument. You're implying it. He got destroyed. Blame him.

And this is how hypocritical you guys are. Sergio can be inactive for over a year, have a two fuckin surgeries, take a high risk fight against someone who took a low risk fight, get defeated and you won't acknowledge the truth. Then Gamboa is inactive for a little over a year, gets a title shot, gets his block knocked off and all of sudden the finger pointing starts.

Hypocrites.

 

[naner12]

I'm not putting words in anyones mouth and there is no failed argument. You're implying it. He got destroyed. Blame him.

I have, repeatedly. I don't think 50 has done a good job with Gamboa's career that doesn't automatically mean that I think 50 is responsible for what happened in the ring. I thought Crawford would win this fight and I said as much in whatever thread 2-0 asked me months ago.

I think Gamboa made a huge mistake in signing with 50 and I'll continue to say that, that has nothing to do with his in ring performance and it's a separate issue.

 

[naner12]

I'm not putting words in anyones mouth and there is no failed argument. You're implying it. He got destroyed. Blame him.

And this is how hypocritical you guys are. Sergio can be inactive for over a year, have a two fuckin surgeries, take a high risk fight against someone who took a low risk fight, get defeated and you won't acknowledge the truth. Then Gamboa is inactive for a little over a year, gets a title shot, gets his block knocked off and all of sudden the finger pointing starts.

Hypocrites.

I'm honestly not sure where this is coming from man. Am I a Gamboa fan? Obviously. I'm not saying Gamboa shouldn't have taken this fight. My point about the can't miss prospect earlier in the thread was more of a way of saying that he shouldn't be in that position given his status a few years back.

Crawford made it happen in the ring and that's why Gamboa lost the fight, everything we've been talking about is a separate issue from what happened in the ring.

 

[HERESY]

I have, repeatedly.

You have implied it repeatedly? Yes, so why tell me to quote you?

I don't think 50 has done a good job with Gamboa's career that doesn't automatically mean that I think 50 is responsible for what happened in the ring. I thought Crawford would win this fight and I said as much in whatever thread 2-0 asked me months ago.

Gamboa didn't do a good job with Gamboa's career.

Is it good practice to leave a job if you have nothing else lined up?

I think Gamboa made a huge mistake in signing with 50 and I'll continue to say that, that has nothing to do with his in ring performance and it's a separate issue.

Stop putting the horse before the cart. Signing with 50 was not the mistake. Leaving TR appears to be the biggest mistake.

 

[naner12]

I have, repeatedly was to answer the Blame him portion of your quote.

 

[HERESY]

I'm honestly not sure where this is coming from man. Am I a Gamboa fan? Obviously. I'm not saying Gamboa shouldn't have taken this fight. My point about the can't miss prospect earlier in the thread was more of a way of saying that he shouldn't be in that position given his status a few years back.

There are a shitload of people who shouldn't be in the current position they are in. Shit happens.

Crawford made it happen in the ring and that's why Gamboa lost the fight, everything we've been talking about is a separate issue from what happened in the ring.

Answer this, if the shoe were on the other foot and Gamboa had beat Crawford the way he was beaten, what would happen? Would his stock not have risen? Would he not have been on more lists? Would he not have become more known?

 

[naner12]

Stop putting the horse before the cart. Signing with 50 was not the mistake. Leaving TR appears to be the biggest mistake.

We're basically saying the same thing over and over and either I'm not understanding you or you're not understanding me, so this is my last post on this. Either way all I'm gonna say to this is I DO blame Gamboa for what happened to his career, but that doesn't mean because I blame Gamboa I can't acknowledge that 50 just hasn't done a great job with his career. Both of those can be true. Gamboa is responsible for destroying his career and 50 can be doing a bad job since signing Gamboa.

 

[HERESY]

We're basically saying the same thing over and over and either I'm not understanding you or you're not understanding me, so this is my last post on this. Either way all I'm gonna say to this is I DO blame Gamboa for what happened to his career, but that doesn't mean because I blame Gamboa I can't acknowledge that 50 just hasn't done a great job with his career. Both of those can be true. Gamboa is responsible for destroying his career and 50 can be doing a bad job since signing Gamboa.

Getting you a title fight against a ranked guy and champion, when you have been inactive for quite a bit, buying out your million dollar contract, giving you all the resources to pull off a victory and become a more recognized fighter.

50 did it. Gamboa couldn't hack it. He did everything a promoter was supposed to do. He got him a fight against a champ coming off a good win even though his (Gamboa's) last fight wasn't that good.

Gamboa is pretty much done now. He is in his 30's, he just suffered a beating and he is iffy when it comes to consistency. You'll see him and 50 on FNF soon enough.

 

[WYNO707X4]

Gamboa is a good ass fighter but the only thing thats holds him back from being great is his chin....and cotto did beat a guy with no knees...

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I'm not putting words in anyones mouth and there is no failed argument. You're implying it. He got destroyed. Blame him.

And this is how hypocritical you guys are. Sergio can be inactive for over a year, have a two fuckin surgeries, take a high risk fight against someone who took a low risk fight, get defeated and you won't acknowledge the truth. Then Gamboa is inactive for a little over a year, gets a title shot, gets his block knocked off and all of sudden the finger pointing starts.

Hypocrites.

How was Cotto, a big payday fight, considered high risk? Martinez was the favorite, was in a weight class above Cotto and a pound for pound champion. It was even considered a cherry pick for Martinez, fighting a smaller guy like Cotto instead of Golovkin or even rematching Murray. Turns out Sergio is shot and would have lost to anyone that night. Cotto was considered low risk high reward.

 

[CZAR]

I won loot tonight. Crawford spanked dat foo. Crawford will wreak havoc at 140 watch. Got Em!!

 

[Coach E. No]

It's also forgotten that Gamboa is an idiot too. While I blame 50 cent for a lot of what has happened to Gamboa's career, Gamboa was also implicated in the HGH scandal in Miami, and was arrested for beating up his chick.

 

[battle619]

Last nights fight was a well deserved win by Crawford. He deserved that hometown fight, and got that hard win. Gamboa is still the shit in my eyes, he's just too small for the division. But I think 50 has done a great job with Gamboa's career. He's actually had 3 fights under SMS, not 2. If anything, @HERESY is correct by saying Gamboa would have been in limbo. Bob Arum came out saying that he didn't want Mikey vs Gamboa to happen cuz of Gamboa fucking off the Rios fight. If the only reason I think Gamboa got the undercard on the Pac vs Marquez 4 and got a title shot vs a TR champ is because HBO has invested in Gamboa and also have SMS to an exclusive contract. HBO be looking out for TR so TR has to do the same.

 

[battle619]

And as far as SMS is concerned, 50 is doing a great job. He keeps getting his fighters televised fights and just got his "Birthday Bash" that's gonna get televised again on FNF. Shit, even he knows Showtime ain't shit.

 

[naner12]

And as far as SMS is concerned, 50 is doing a great job. He keeps getting his fighters televised fights and just got his "Birthday Bash" that's gonna get televised again on FNF. Shit, even he knows Showtime ain't shit.

I agree, 50 is doing a great job with his up and coming fighters, just like Tyson is doing by hosting FNF's and trying to get one or more of his guys stuck.

To say that Gamboa would not have been able to sign with any established is just not true. Any promoter would've signed Gamboa at that time.

To say that 50 Cent did anything to get Gamboa this fight is not true. Gamboa got this fight off his name and previous dealings with HBO. 50 didn't get the opportunity to get Gamboa any kind of fight cause he doesn't have the pull to deal with anyone.

If you think that 50 Cent would rather be on FNF over Showtime you're delusional. He's not on Showtime because he can't get on Showtime. 50 may get his promotion to a respectable level but it's not there yet, no matter what kind of argument anyone tries to make for it. It's a not a knock on him, boxing promotion isn't as easy to break in as just having your shit together or having money.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

And as far as SMS is concerned, 50 is doing a great job. He keeps getting his fighters televised fights and just got his "Birthday Bash" that's gonna get televised again on FNF. Shit, even he knows Showtime ain't shit.

FNF cards are tiny when it comes to money. We're talking about $15,000 maybe $30,000 for a decent name. It's good for up and comers of course to have the exposure, but he would definitely prefer Showtime and HBO money.

I don't see how 50 Cent is doing a great job. He's trying, that's good for what it's worth, but again, look at his fighters and what they've got. Billy Dib was probably his most active fighter, and that was Lou DiBella working with 50. It's a tough business and he's done nothing yet.

If Floyd and 50 would have became partner's like 50 wanted, I think things would have been way different. But 50 on his own is struggling.

 

[naner12]

@HERESY .. not sure if you got a chance to watch it..

 

[WYNO707X4]

Mikey vs crawford @135 ??

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Respect Crawford's honesty:

"That's how he fights. He's shown nothing else but coming out and jumping on his opponents. We were prepared for everything he brings. Everybody knows Gamboa gets dropped in fights, everybody knows he always gets back up and wins. We were prepared for whatever came to the table. Like I told everybody before the fight happened, I felt Gamboa was a 126, 130-pounder. I didn't believe he was a real, legitimate 135-pounder

 

[Coach E. No]

Seems like a good dude and willing to fight anyone. I LOVE that he's from a place like Omaha and I've been saying for years that, in a place like Omaha where there's not much to do, they should bring boxing events there. They packed 10k+ into that arena. That's more than the capacity at the Stubhub center in Carson. Not to mention, it starts to set up the future of boxing by inspiring kids to box by being able to attend boxing events live.