If you want to have a discussion without the pointless name calling I'm down. Here's why I say that they're a illegitimate sanctioning body.
Ok.
1. If you look at their history they don't continually keep champions in certain divisions I.E. Moruti Mthalane Vs. Jether Oliva just fought for the vacant IBO flyweight title, prior to that the last sanctioned IBO flyweight title fight was in 2009. That's just not acceptable for a legitimate sanctioning body to have their titles vacant for so long.
This is problematic, especially when their own rules state something to the effect of defending the title every nine months. The problem is, they also don't enforce a mandatory so it increases the chances of someone not fighting for the belt.
2. Absolutely no structure to them, i.e. Don George Vs. Dyah Davis are about to fight for one of their main vacated belts. Not one of their minor titles. Guys seem to drop the IBO and/or get stripped for no apparent reason and those same titles will remain vacate forever.
Like in the Hopkins situation, it did appear contradictory. However, you have to keep in mind that compared to the other organizations, these guys have the least amount of corruption and palm greasing. They also have legit rankings. But you have to remember, the WBO pretty much started off the same way. People weren't defending the belt as much, questions were asked, etc.
Fighters are always going to say that the belts have meaning, because they won them, that doesn't mean you or I have to feel the same.
This is my thing man, I don't like all the alphabet soup organizations and don't like all the weight classes. So it's either the WBC, lineal or Ring that is going to hold the most prestige and weight to most people. However, when you look at it from the boxers perspective, it is going to have meaning because they put their life on the line for it. So if they feel it is a worthy cause, and they are putting their body on the line to defend it, and they recognize it, then that is how I look at it. Now of course everythign would be different if we didn't have supers, ABC organizations and all these different weight classes but if a guy feels passionate about it, then fuck it, let him defend it.
Some of the things that you argue for, i.e. people not wanting to Golovkin have a major thing to do with all these damn sanctioning bodies. Why would Quillin want or need to fight Golovkin if he's already a champ somewhere? Why would Soliman? I wouldn't mind if the IBO replaced another sanctioning body as long as they cut out not having champions for years at a time, but boxing absolutely does not need anymore sanctioning bodies and people that should know better acknowledging them as if they mean something because then you get a 5th champion in one of 17 divisions.
Well, at times you had more than 5 champions if you were to count the super champs and the bullshit the WBA was doing. So the problem you have, which is legit, is that we already have a billion and one groups and champs and that they aren't having enough fights. So what would they need to do to have more people fighting for the belt? Because we know if they are for profit, and the other ones hide under a non profit label, what else can they do? Throw the towel in and join the club?
And for whatever it's worth. I think Hopkins would agree it's meaningless as he won the IBO belt twice and never paid sanctioning fees on it to keep it. I.E. when he beat Pascal, who had the IBO, the title was immediately vacated because Hopkins didn't find it important enough to pay fees for it. He just kept the WBC strap that came with it.
He pretty much said it was about money and when he was at the presser with Shumanov, he took the IBO belt, along with the WBA, and place it next to his IBF title. So it isn't like he doesn;t recognize it, he just didn't want to pay the fees. Shit Bowe tossed a belt in the garbage, that is far worse, lol.
I'll delete my other posts, no point in going back and forth name calling. If you want to stick with that, that's fine with me too doesn't really matter.
We're all fam here bro. I get my feathers ruffled, I know I ruffle feathers, in fact, if I didn't then call the hospital because something is "wrong." So if I argue with you and go in on you, it's like a badge of honor, don't take it personal because two minutes later I will be propping you for some shit you said that made sense. Ask 206. He's been my whipping boy for years now (lol @ when he sees this.)
ours Naner a shot of cognac:
