WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK OF THIS BOLD STATEMENT re: SEATTLE HIP-HOP

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Apr 25, 2002
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From a recent edition of The Stranger, a publication I typically don't like all that much because of their strong preference for the backpacker shit, but I was reading this article on Framework, and coupled with some conversations I've had with people, found this particular statement pretty interesting:

"The economic fact of the matter is South Seattle's serious hiphop has to connect with Capitol Hill's indie-rock scene to survive."
Charles Mudede from The Stranger, 11/24/2005
 
Apr 5, 2005
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As Fridge said, definitly not the only way to go about it...wouldn't hurt but I don't really see how the majority of seattle rap would apeal to the indie rock crowd anyway.
 
Jan 28, 2005
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Yeah, there's more than one way. I still insist that one of the main things we first need to achieve is awareness of NW hip-hop. A couple years ago I didn't even know we had a scene and thats how most people are like around here. I let em listen to UA or somebody and they be like "Thats Firre! He from Cali?" and when I say he from Seattle they look all puzzled and can't believe people even rap here. I swear its amazing.
 
Dec 14, 2005
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I dont know, I think Mudede is pretty accurate there. Look at the hiphop shows at the Chop Suey. I go to Seattle U, and there are always tons of the indie-rock kids from my school and from the local high schools at the "art-rap" shows that they have there. True, there isn't any hardcore rap that needs Capitol Hill to survive (I've had a hard time finding a presence of true, hardcore rap in Seattle that even comes close to the levels in my hometown of San Francisco...if anybody knows some good artists, let me know), but the hip hop - groups like Blue Scholars, who are the most well-known of these acts - definitely attract a lot of the "scene" kids from Capitol Hill. Just walk past the Chop sometime before a show and take a look at the crowd waiting to be let in...it is seriously 90% scenesters from local colleges and high schools. A lot of the students who like indie rock also are quite attached to indie hip hop.

On a side note, I found your comments on the Stranger to be pretty accurate. They can be very elitist, and their musical tastes leave quite a bit to be desired. But I have to ask, what did you mean by "backpacker shit"?
 
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Look at the hiphop shows at the Chop Suey. I go to Seattle U, and there are always tons of the indie-rock kids from my school and from the local high schools at the "art-rap" shows that they have there. True, there isn't any hardcore rap that needs Capitol Hill to survive (I've had a hard time finding a presence of true, hardcore rap in Seattle that even comes close to the levels in my hometown of San Francisco...if anybody knows some good artists, let me know), but the hip hop - groups like Blue Scholars, who are the most well-known of these acts - definitely attract a lot of the "scene" kids from Capitol Hill. Just walk past the Chop sometime before a show and take a look at the crowd waiting to be let in...it is seriously 90% scenesters from local colleges and high schools. A lot of the students who like indie rock also are quite attached to indie hip hop.
I couldn't agree with you more. Personally I think the Stranger and its staff can either like your shit and fuck wit you or just not fuck wit you. Same with KEXP both seem to run in the same circles but there are always other avenues to get your music out now.

I am however pleased to see people actually coming out to shows and supporting hip hop as a whole regardless if it is "backpacker shit" or not. I know its bad to say but until recently I used to turn down mixing hip hop shows mainly cause the money wasn't right but at the same time they didn't have the draws the indie kids did. oh well just my 2 cents

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