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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2927560

SURRY, Va. -- Federal authorities have filed court documents outlining an alleged dogfighting operation at a property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, The Associated Press reported Friday.



Vick is not named in the documents.


The documents filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond and obtained Friday by The Associated Press contain the address of the home that has been the center of the investigation.


The filing comes on a day when federal agents searched the wooded property Vick is currently selling in southeastern Virginia on Friday. Fifteen vehicles were on the property, including a rental truck and a Virginia State Police evidence collections truck.



According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.



Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.



Fifty-four animals were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.



The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.



The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.



Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.



During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.



Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.



Friday morning, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate on the southeastern Virginia property had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported. The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dog fighting allegations.

The authorities arrived sometime after 6 a.m. ET.

State and federal investigators concentrated their search looking for dog carcasses allegedly buried somewhere behind the property, according to Naqi. At 1:30 p.m. ET, a backhoe pulled onto the property and began to maneuver by some black outhouses, located behind the main house, and headed further into the woods. Those black houses are where local investigators had found the items listed in the court documents, including the blood-stained carpeting and rape stand.

Portsmouth's WAVY-TV broadcast video of investigators working under a blue tarp on a portion of the property. They were sifting dirt collected in white buckets and clearing brush. Some wore T-shirts with the wording "POLICE."


The property includes a metal gate at the entrance of the large white house and a fence around the perimeter, which obscured the work of investigators.



Corinne Geller, a spokesman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."


On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation.

Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded.

The results of that search have remained sealed.

At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved.

"What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?"

A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along.

"We are just pursuing parallel investigations."

During an April 25 drug raid on the home Vick owns in the county, authorities seized 66 dogs, including 55 pit bulls, and equipment that suggested someone at the property was involved in a dogfighting operation.

A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation.

Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

Tony

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I am not saying I hope he gets charged but nobody has been charged yet. His cousin(s) or who ever was in the home during that time will probably take the fall. If nobody steps up to take the fall then Vick will be charged.
 
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phil said:
and there you have it.

and there you have what????

you repeatedly said nothing happened at the house?

you said no fighting took place, no dog carcasses were found, etc......

lol now all you have is vick not charged



here's news for you




YET! This is the beginnig just outlining all of what they know happened....next step is to start charging the lower figures in the case to testify against the higher figures in this case.

I have repeatdly told you this shit happened you denied it like a vick nut rider

now all you can say is he's not charged yet...noone is yet because just like ANY CASE IN THE UNITED STATES tehy try to get the least involved to testify so they can get stronger cases against the higher involved........just a matter of time...it may not be for 6 months or 1 year...but just wait!


this is how the legal system works....shit doesn't happen overnight like on tv or in the movies
 

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thascary1 said:
and there you have what????

you repeatedly said nothing happened at the house?YOU CAN GO BACK AND READ THAT I SAID "AS FAR AS WE THE PUBLIC KNEW". AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW NOW THERE WAS. BUT LIKE BEFORE I STILL SAY, "EVEN IF DOGFIGHTING OCCURRED THERE IS GOING TO BE A HARD TIME PLACING VICK THERE"

you said no fighting took place, no dog carcasses were found, etc......

lol now all you have is vick not charged



here's news for you




YET! This is the beginnig just outlining all of what they know happened....next step is to start charging the lower figures in the case to testify against the higher figures in this case.

I have repeatdly told you this shit happened you denied it like a vick nut rider

now all you can say is he's not charged yet...noone is yet because just like ANY CASE IN THE UNITED STATES tehy try to get the least involved to testify so they can get stronger cases against the higher involved........just a matter of time...it may not be for 6 months or 1 year...but just wait!


this is how the legal system works....shit doesn't happen overnight like on tv or in the movies
HOLD YOUR BREATH TOO
 
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Phil....I told you this was coming a long time ago...you said nothing happend who was right?


Do you really want to keep it up to make yourself look even more of an idiot even further down the road?
 

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SO YOURE GOING ON RECORD TO SAY VICK WILL BE CHARGED? GREAT. IF YOURE RIGHT I'LL GIVE YOU A COOKIE. OK? IF IM WRONG I'LL BE WRONG AND ADMIT IT. I STILL FEEL LIKE VICK WONT BE CHARGED.
 

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thascary1 said:
because just like ANY CASE IN THE UNITED STATES tehy try to get the least involved to testify so they can get stronger cases against the higher involved........just a matter of time...it may not be for 6 months or 1 year...but just wait!


this is how the legal system works....shit doesn't happen overnight like on tv or in the movies
Damn straight!!! Although, if your wealthy, you can basically buy your way out of situations. The whole process is a money game with the defense and DA. Unfortunately, poor folks in these same situations get the hammer! The legal process is built to move slowly for a reason. Mentally it can fuck with those involved for that 6 months to a year process.
 
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SO YOURE GOING ON RECORD TO SAY VICK WILL BE CHARGED? GREAT. IF YOURE RIGHT I'LL GIVE YOU A COOKIE. OK? IF IM WRONG I'LL BE WRONG AND ADMIT IT. I STILL FEEL LIKE VICK WONT BE CHARGED.
thats not what I am saying...Not once did I say Vick was 100% part of it....but you continued to push and push and try to act like you knew what was going on beacuse they didnt file papers yet...I told you to wait and see..you said they found nothing (no blood, no dead dogs, etc...) even though I told you they did.


Now lets go further....Right now I will say Vick either gets charged or will testify against someone else.....now why would he testify you say????? Because he knows what was going on and to save his ass he needs to talk first, otherwise everyone else will turn it around on him now!


I frequent another sports message board and there are a few VT alumni there....they say it was fairly common knowledge that Vick and friends did this sort of stuff.....now don't you think any of them will no come foward????



again give it time!
 

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Think about this Phil... if nobody steps up and says "I was in charge of this dog fighting" who do you think they're going to charge? They're going to charge Vick because that's his house/property and how could you not know what's been going on at one of your houses? Especially something like dog fighting. Witnesses have said that Vick was a "heavyweight" in dog fighting. It's obvious but of course Vick is going to deny it.
 

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Damn... looks like he might beat it afterall. If so, good call Phil. Cut and pasted:

Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said.
 
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Damn... looks like he might beat it afterall. If so, good call Phil. Cut and pasted:

Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said.

Tony


YET!

They will start charging those lesser involved first....then thats when thngs get rolling....thats why noone is named right now other than "bad newz kennels"





It's just like the darrent williams case right now...they know some of who's involved but are taking there time and interviewing, etc....noo ne has been charged although a couple are already in custody on other charges, they are not due to Darrent yet because they are interviewing
 

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what part of NO EVIDENCE TO LINK VICK do you not understand scary1?

I CALLED THIS FOR THE WITCH HUNT IT WAS FROM DAY 1.
 

phil

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and why are you taking this so seriously scary1? it seems like youre taking this whole ordeal personally, calling me a nutrider. get real my friend. what does that make you if you turn out wrong in the end?