whats good yall... i just bought a rocktron banshee talkbox and i was wondering if anyone knew any tips on how to get the cleanest sounding words with it... im not trying to do no cheezy NB riders shit... but i plan using it in the studio for this house music project im workin on... any tips or suggestions is greatly appriciated (recording techniques or whatever..) thanks yall...peace. :chinese:
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A friend had the rocktron and brought it over and we compared it side by side, he ended up getting rid of it .I use a heil talk box with a small fender frontman amp( tried another didnt like it) i used it with a yamaha dx100, but now use a yamaha tx81z rack(switched to save space) they have to be programed and thats alot of parameter changing..Ive gotten great responses, but Im super critical and always looking to make it better,Ive ran it through guitar distortion boxes. used it with a harmonizer.
I know teddy riley uses the same set up as well as roger, bosko I think uses his asr10 but Im not sure if he wasnt just using that as a controler like I use my roland jp8000 to control my tx81z
I know teddy riley uses the same set up as well as roger, bosko I think uses his asr10 but Im not sure if he wasnt just using that as a controler like I use my roland jp8000 to control my tx81z
they do the same thing...but....It could be that itsbuilt in amp isnt as powerful, Im not sure.Remember I used a differnt amp same size different make it was even more expensive but I went back to original.Roger specially made his talkboxes but If you cant exchange Id stick with what you got cause you aint experience the difficulties of actually emulating certain entertainers that use it but if you doin your own thing like house music it may be perfect. If you trying to make more robot sounds you can run your mic in a cheap harmonizer,that gets some real interesting sounds,are you using a keyboard, and what kind?you can run your keyboard out into a distortion box, or over drive, that adds another bit of grimeyness to it and those lil pedals can be found cheap used, for now Id figure what kind of sound and how to get your key to achieve it( use mono voices only, cause chords dont workits muffled)
Yeah I almost forgot get rid of that big tube that came with it. Go to home depot and get some type of rubber glue, the go to wear they have tubing buy alittle of(about 2 inches, wich you will cut off the ammount you necessarily need)of the size that fits in the part that goes into your talkboxget the next size down and on this one glue a small maybe inch into the first then so on and so one til youhave the desired thickness that will be most comfortable to use,You may have to force the tubes in each other but with that and the glue its airtight, experiment and make different sizes til you get one that works best for you.
Put it in the side of your mouthbiting slightley so it dont come out and just mouth the words( overexaggerating but using no actual sound of your voice just the air that comes from mouthing it.experiment and it aint hard also if using a key board use pitch bend to accent certain syllables and modulation for tremolo, just play around and you will understand more
Yeah I almost forgot get rid of that big tube that came with it. Go to home depot and get some type of rubber glue, the go to wear they have tubing buy alittle of(about 2 inches, wich you will cut off the ammount you necessarily need)of the size that fits in the part that goes into your talkboxget the next size down and on this one glue a small maybe inch into the first then so on and so one til youhave the desired thickness that will be most comfortable to use,You may have to force the tubes in each other but with that and the glue its airtight, experiment and make different sizes til you get one that works best for you.
Put it in the side of your mouthbiting slightley so it dont come out and just mouth the words( overexaggerating but using no actual sound of your voice just the air that comes from mouthing it.experiment and it aint hard also if using a key board use pitch bend to accent certain syllables and modulation for tremolo, just play around and you will understand more
@TronikBeatz
To get the clearest and cleanest sound from your talkbox you have to use the right sound and have your pronounciation down. Definately get a smaller tube like dude suggested. Also, what synth are you using it with? Depending on what kind of sound I want, I use custom patches on a number of different synths.
To get the clearest and cleanest sound from your talkbox you have to use the right sound and have your pronounciation down. Definately get a smaller tube like dude suggested. Also, what synth are you using it with? Depending on what kind of sound I want, I use custom patches on a number of different synths.
I use a yamaha tx817 with altered patch I use to use the dx100 but got the tx81z to rack it up and save space(ha ha ha like the dx100 is big) I have a motif rack witch Im a upgrade to the motif es rack, Im considering getting the dx board for the motif rack so i can eliminate the tx81z. Does anyone use a motif with alterd sound. I had a moog voyager and tried my talkbox with it but I used stock sounds didnt have it long enough to really tweak it, my tx81z patch was better so you have to tweak a certain sound a certain way and not just the knobs on the machine you have to get in the guts of it and freak it
I agree and disagree, of course i could be wrong,The talkbox thrives off distortion and shit like that so filtering and e.q Im sure helps. Ive tried my talkbox( Ive been told Im prety good, but Im a keep it real Im o.k always looking to better my sound) with a triton a motif a moog voyager, proteus 2000, korg ms 2000, roland jp8000,I even tried it on the sounds from a rs7000, none sounded close to the patch I have for the tx81z/or dx100 when i had it with correct parameters.Ive yet to experiment with eq or outboard filters.Again Im a student of this highley secret art and am always eager to learn anything new.I wish others would open up more because there are quite a few out there who are tight with it so I wouldnt label it something you can make a carreer out of( with some exceptions) so share it so we can all make good music(or try)
Right now im messing around with the MicroKorg... i mos def need a smaller tube, the one that came with the rocktron is way to damn big... and im sorta getting the pronunciation thing down... just got to over exaggerate the words like 50cal said... but yea im using the microkorg... i might try to mess around with my fantom XR and see what i can get with that... :chinese:
Hey this might be a stupid question, but i was told that the yamaha dx27 is the same internally as the dx100. Can someone tell me how much difference there is between the two? Also, ive seen many diffrent models mentioned here, can someone recommend a quality board or two other than the ones i mentioned, that are in a beginners price range? Any and all help is appreciated thanks!
I can help you with your clarity issues with your talkbox, it's a very simple technique that some talkboxers out there aren't doing which makes them sound froggy, nasal and not understood.
Contact me through my profile and I will get you set straight on sounding your best on the talkbox... I'll even throw in a LIVE talkbox demonstration on Yahoo Messenger to let you hear what it sounds like in the right musical hands :cheeky:
Peace
Contact me through my profile and I will get you set straight on sounding your best on the talkbox... I'll even throw in a LIVE talkbox demonstration on Yahoo Messenger to let you hear what it sounds like in the right musical hands :cheeky:
Peace
I was wondering if anyone has info on the dx expansion board for the motif.Igot rid of my dx100 and replaced it with a tx81z rack to save space, wich I use same paramters for my talkbox.I have a motif rack wich, Im gonna sell then spend a few extra hundred and get the motif Es rack.I know yamaha makes a expansion board for the motif and a few other synths its a bit pricey($270) being Im getting it for doin the talkbox but it also adds polyphony,effects and some more banks of sounds about 900 sounds then I could eliminate the tx81z to save more space.I was wondering if anyone had experience with that expansion for the talkbox, it should technically work being you can make same adjustments as the dx100,etc.If this works Im gonna get the virtual acoustic board about $150 it adds about 250 sounds adds more polyphony effects(more polyphony the better ) Ill use this with a breath controler like teddy riley uses for those parts where It almost sounds like the talkbox but its just a brass instrument and no words are spoken.this would be a powerful multi-task unit that is small in space
o.k. I got a chance to talk with MisterGroove and he is official, If you play the talkbox,or are interested in everplaying the talkbox your search is over,Ive been doin internet searches and talkin to friends who said do this and that since about 99 , he will give you some instant gratification and personal enjoyment, he doesnt hold on to the trick like some ancient chinese secret only taught to the black belts he ....actually there is nothin to say, if you need anymore info and dont contact him you will be doing me a service by making me one of the few ones with the correct settings.
