Relgious Question...

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

Ok so I know for a fact lots of things were taken out of the bible and even changed. My question is if the info in the bible was altered how can anyone know the real TRUTH?

For one exmple. The bible says King Solomon died severing false gods and died unfaithful to YHWH Elohim the real god. BUT the bible does not tell you that he actually wrote the books on magicak used by today's magicakans. He wrote the Greater and Lesser key of solomon. Also on the tailismans of magick have Gods and Jesus name Michael can be found.

The bible also says Solomon asked god for great knowledge. I think that knowledge was the power to summon and control spirts. I mean HOW else would he learn to weild a power so great? And the bible doesn't tell you exactly what that knowledge was.

Also WHy did god tell Solomon these magical secerts if the bible says not to do sorcery? It's very strange to me. Who ever read the original bible scrools altered for some reason.

I am asking this because many relgions who claim to be the RIGHT one CLIAM to have the holy spirit and the power of god. YET they cannot even do anything. And people who study magick can summons angels and heal people. It just doesn't add up to me. All the Churches say is some BS about like just have faith and it's god's will if you're sick or you suffer. Yeah right! I don't believe that for one minute.

I think the real acient knowledge of spiritual power has been altered. And no one will ever know the truth until they die or the end of the world comes.

If anyone here can answer any of my questions you are a GENIUS!

This is just one of many questions I have and that I've been thinking about. I am only searching for the TRUTH and real spiritual path. I'll post more later.

Another note: In the into of the Greater Key of Solomon it says that the book contains the secret knowledge that God gave Solomon. It says the books even have the power to cure any disease. BUT if the book really has that much power why didn't solomon use it to be immortal?

I know this shit sounds far out there.. But I believe spirtual forces and power is real. I'm just trying to find the real relgion in this world...

 

[2-0-NINE]

Ok so I know for a fact lots of things were taken out of the bible and even changed. My question is if the info in the bible was altered how can anyone know the real TRUTH?

The Apocraphal Books you mean, Read this http://www.bible.ca/catholic-apocrypha.htm

For one exmple. The bible says King Solomon died severing false gods and died unfaithful to YHWH Elohim the real god. BUT the bible does not tell you that he actually wrote the books on magicak used by today's magicakans. He wrote the Greater and Lesser key of solomon. Also on the tailismans of magick have Gods and Jesus name Michael can be found.

Voodoo Priest have Statues of Mary and Jesus, does that mean God is part of their Devil Worship, No! That's why it's best if religions don't use Symbols too much, or rely on them. It's your faith in God that matters the most.

The bible also says Solomon asked god for great knowledge. I think that knowledge was the power to summon and control spirts. I mean HOW else would he learn to weild a power so great? And the bible doesn't tell you exactly what that knowledge was.

But the Knowledge God gave Solomon was to make Wise Decisions for the Kingdom, not to summor Demons which are the CONJURED SPIRITS.

Also WHy did god tell Solomon these magical secerts if the bible says not to do sorcery? It's very strange to me. Who ever read the original bible scrools altered for some reason.

What Was altered? Every thing that was said to be in the Old Testament, reflects it's self in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Solomon never did any sorcery that I am aware of, but he had many wives which was against the 10 Holy Commandments and worshipped other false Idols and gods.

I am asking this because many relgions who claim to be the RIGHT one CLIAM to have the holy spirit and the power of god. YET they cannot even do anything. And people who study magick can summons angels and heal people. It just doesn't add up to me. All the Churches say is some BS about like just have faith and it's god's will if you're sick or you suffer. Yeah right! I don't believe that for one minute.

Does someone who's already More powerful than you have to prove anything to you. You don't understand the Concept of the Holy Spirit, The Holy Spirit doesn't give super power but rather help you in life. Inspires you to Understand the Bible, and gives you the Power to preach without premeditation. It's the Lord's will what he desires for you, if he chooses not to heal you, he has a purpose for that believe me.

I think the real acient knowledge of spiritual power has been altered. And no one will ever know the truth until they die or the end of the world comes.

I agree with you on one thing, we will not understand everything until the End of the World. But where you say that the Ancient power has been altered, man never had no power unless it were given to him by God. Moses did not split the red sea, it was YHWH. Moses did not send the Plagues to Egypt God Did. It's up to you to decide if you just Accept God as what he is, and nothing less.

Another note: In the into of the Greater Key of Solomon it says that the book contains the secret knowledge that God gave Solomon. It says the books even have the power to cure any disease. BUT if the book really has that much power why didn't solomon use it to be immortal?

Romans 6:23 tells you why you or Solomon Cannot be Immortal, "For the Wages of Sin is death, but the Gift of God is Eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Sin took away our so called Immortality, remember Adam and Eve.

I know this shit sounds far out there.. But I believe spirtual forces and power is real. I'm just trying to find the real relgion in this world...

Timothy defined RELIGION IN THIS WAY in the Book of II Timothy 3:5 "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof." Because many religions require you to do so much of what THEY believe rather than what God wants you to do.

I Pray that you read the Bible, and it inspired you to become a walker of the Way, the Truth and the Light, which is in Jesus Christ our Lord. It's not a Religion homie, it's Holy Way of Life. So try it. Praying doesn't hurt either.

 

[HERESY]

My question is if the info in the bible was altered how can anyone know the real TRUTH?

You will know the TRUTH at death, but you may experience some forms of TRUTH by supernatural experiences/revelation.

For one exmple. The bible says King Solomon died severing false gods and died unfaithful to YHWH Elohim the real god.

Book, chapter and verse please.

BUT the bible does not tell you that he actually wrote the books on magicak used by today's magicakans.

Solomon has been credited to writing certain things regarding magick, but by no means did he actually write the books on magick used by todays practioners. To say he wrote "the books" is to aimply that he wrote ALL of them and this is NOT the case.

He wrote the Greater and Lesser key of solomon

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While the greater key has been atrributed to solomon the Lesser Key of Solomon is a 17th century work (simple research can validate this truth.)

Also on the tailismans of magick have Gods and Jesus name Michael can be found.

Which ones?

The bible also says Solomon asked god for great knowledge. I think that knowledge was the power to summon and control spirts.

This contradicts biblical scripture. 2 Chronicles 1:7-11.

I mean HOW else would he learn to weild a power so great? And the bible doesn't tell you exactly what that knowledge was.

How can you learn to wield power so great? By doing what he was told NOT to do, OR by doing what you ARE supposed to do. Actually, the bible DOES tell you what the knowledge is and it isn't power to control demons.

Also WHy did god tell Solomon these magical secerts if the bible says not to do sorcery? It's very strange to me. Who ever read the original bible scrools altered for some reason.

Who said God told him magical secrets? Also, what proof do you have that whoever read the origianl bible scrolls altered the writings of Solomon?

I am asking this because many relgions who claim to be the RIGHT one CLIAM to have the holy spirit and the power of god. YET they cannot even do anything.

There are several reasons for this. The first is these religions and people MAY not be the right religions or even be chosen by God. The second reason is even if they are chosen by God, they may not be operating in the right manner thus preventing them from doing things. Third, so what if they can't do anything? Sometimes doctors can't prescribe the proper medication for a patient, but does that mean he or she is not a doctor capable of helping someone get well? Be VERY careful of people working signs and miracles. This is an EASY way to be deceived.

It just doesn't add up to me. All the Churches say is some BS about like just have faith and it's god's will if you're sick or you suffer. Yeah right! I don't believe that for one minute.

Not all churches say that. Some churches operate in "spiritual gifts", and these churches believe in laying hands on people (to cure sickness etc.)

I think the real acient knowledge of spiritual power has been altered. And no one will ever know the truth until they die or the end of the world comes.

The real knowledge of power comes from God revealing himself to you, and you walking in obediance and love in regards to God and your fellow man. THIS is TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF SPIRITUAL POWER. What did Yeshi tell his followers? Do not rejoice that you have the power to cast out demons, but rejoice that your name is written in the Book of Life.

If anyone here can answer any of my questions you are a GENIUS!

I answered them how I was directed to answer them. I am no genius, I am stumped on writing a three page paper that is due on the 20th.

Another note: In the into of the Greater Key of Solomon it says that the book contains the secret knowledge that God gave Solomon. It says the books even have the power to cure any disease. BUT if the book really has that much power why didn't solomon use it to be immortal?

Death is not a Disease, and what are the benifits of being immortal if you are not God or do not have your spiritual body?

I know this shit sounds far out there.. But I believe spirtual forces and power is real. I'm just trying to find the real relgion in this world...

James 1:27, so simple,yet so hard to grasp and actually do because of our hearts and selfishness.

 

[2-0-NINE]

I answered them how I was directed to answer them. I am no genius, I am stumped on writing a three page paper that is due on the 20th.

Well you are a Genius to some degree. Most of the time when people debate with you, IT'S AUTOMATIC GAME OVER HAHA.

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

The Apocraphal Books you mean, Read this http://www.bible.ca/catholic-apocrypha.htm

Voodoo Priest have Statues of Mary and Jesus, does that mean God is part of their Devil Worship, No! That's why it's best if religions don't use Symbols too much, or rely on them. It's your faith in God that matters the most.

But the Knowledge God gave Solomon was to make Wise Decisions for the Kingdom, not to summor Demons which are the CONJURED SPIRITS.

Yess BUT. The difference is Gods name the Tetragrmatron and Michael the Ark angel have REAL power. They fear god and Michael so much, that when a magicakan summons a spirit the demon will stay in the cirle with the holy names written on it. And King Solomon wrote these books. Who told him how to do this? Maybe the devil?

What Was altered? Every thing that was said to be in the Old Testament, reflects it's self in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Solomon never did any sorcery that I am aware of, but he had many wives which was against the 10 Holy Commandments and worshipped other false Idols and gods.

YOu see that right there is something that was left out of the bible. The fact that solomon wrote these books on socery, and that they did all these things. The bible leaves TONS of stuff out about people that can be found in other books. That's why I don't JUST read the bible. I study all I can deeply and see how things are connected. IN the end it just doesn't add up... Something was tampered with. People who just believe everything and the bible and belive everything the preacher tells them will be under their control. I think that people need to research and read all they can to understand things better. And yes Solomon did sorcery and wrote books on magick. Just look up The Key of Solomon on google. It will tell you the history of the books and that he wrote them.

Does someone who's already More powerful than you have to prove anything to you. You don't understand the Concept of the Holy Spirit, The Holy Spirit doesn't give super power but rather help you in life. Inspires you to Understand the Bible, and gives you the Power to preach without premeditation. It's the Lord's will what he desires for you, if he chooses not to heal you, he has a purpose for that believe me.

They don't have to prove anything. But if someone tells me I have the power to heal and they have never done it. How can I belive them? I DO know the holy spirit is god's power. People could speak in tounges and do mircices while under the influcene of the holy spirit. And yes you can do anything you want with it. Churches have made people believe they are weak and helpless. When the bible says that even faith the size of a seed can move mountains.

No if me getting sick or suffering is the Lord's will, I would have to diagree. It IS Satan's will for us to die and suffer. God NEVER wanted us to die get sick or suffer. Many people blame god. But God is not even active much here on the earth. The devil and dark forces run things now. If anything bad comes to you in life Believe me when I tell you it was the WILL of Lucifer and great evil. Nothing evil can come from god. Unless he is punishing you or something. But people dying is NEVER god's will. And I hate when people beleive that statement.

I agree with you on one thing, we will not understand everything until the End of the World. But where you say that the Ancient power has been altered, man never had no power unless it were given to him by God. Moses did not split the red sea, it was YHWH. Moses did not send the Plagues to Egypt God Did. It's up to you to decide if you just Accept God as what he is, and nothing less.

Yes all we can do it learn more as time goes by. scripture and relgion has become to corrupt to ever find the truth now. I agree that most supernatural power comes from spirits. God and demons. But I think humans do have many abliites not even tapped into yet. But since relgions and governement condition the pubic to believe they will always be weak and have no potential people belive this, and never study anything deeper. And they just take the churches' words for it.

Romans 6:23 tells you why you or Solomon Cannot be Immortal, "For the Wages of Sin is death, but the Gift of God is Eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Sin took away our so called Immortality, remember Adam and Eve.

YEs that's true.

Timothy defined RELIGION IN THIS WAY in the Book of II Timothy 3:5 "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof." Because many religions require you to do so much of what THEY believe rather than what God wants you to do.

I do agree with this! Relgions always ask for money and help. And want to have people under their control. Then they claim that if you disobey or go against THEM you are going against god. That always makes me laugh...

I Pray that you read the Bible, and it inspired you to become a walker of the Way, the Truth and the Light, which is in Jesus Christ our Lord. It's not a Religion homie, it's Holy Way of Life. So try it. Praying doesn't hurt either.

YEs I have read and studies the bible for years along with many other books. I think the bible has much truth. But I also think books have been removed and also things have been altered. Also I am searching for the lgiht. But the truth is still hidden from me..

Yeah Prayer is always good man. Thanks for the advice.

And thanks for the reply...

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

Thanks for the reply Heresy..
I liked what you had to say...
I will reply to your whole post in a min...

 

[HERESY]

Well you are a Genius to some degree. Most of the time when people debate with you, IT'S AUTOMATIC GAME OVER HAHA.

Really? I think I've LOST more battles than I actually won. But on the real, I actually like this part of the board, and it shows because the majority of my posts are here. When I reply to people one of my main objectives is to get them to THINK ON THEIR OWN. A lot of times we fail to learn because we don't think, and when we do think it is usually inside the box, when often times we need to think outside the box, put ourselves in the others shoes, and view it (life, religion, culture etc) from another perspective.

 

[2-0-NINE]

The books that were removed were removed for a Purpose, read the Link I gave you.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Really? I think I've LOST more battles than I actually won. But on the real, I actually like this part of the board, and it shows because the majority of my posts are here. When I reply to people one of my main objectives is to get them to THINK ON THEIR OWN. A lot of times we fail to learn because we don't think, and when we do think it is usually inside the box, when often times we need to think outside the box, put ourselves in the others shows, and view it (life, religion, culture etc) from another perspective.

I agree, that's why I don't like to Argue if I'm not going to see from the opponents perspective.

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

OHh alright man. I will read it. Also I did not know what books exactly got removed. But I always had a feeling they did.

Well does not the book of Reveltion say that anyone who removes or adds to the bible will get eternal death! See I know many scruptures by heart.. But I don't know exactly what chapters and verses

No there are other books besides these.. real books that even quotes jesus. The people in power just never wanted anyone to read that info. Because then they would lose their control over the people...

 

[2-0-NINE]

OHh alright man. I will read it. Also I did not know what books exactly got removed. But I always had a feeling they did.

Well does not the book of Reveltion say that anyone who removes or adds to the bible will get eternal death! See I know many scruptures by heart.. But I don't know exactly what chapters and verses

Those books were false, because the Original text of the Old Testament was Hebrew, WHICH NONE OF THE APOCRYPHAL BOOKS WERE. Like the Page said, the Text Contradicts itself, I have a Catholic Bible which has all the Apocrypha books, if I find it I'll send it to you free of charge, because the Apocrypha is all BS.

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

Yeah man I know. I meant I know that real books and chapters of the bible have been taken out. Some bibles still have those fake books in them written by the pope's etc. I'll try to find the info and books that were that got taken out.

 

[2-0-NINE]

Yeah man I know. I meant I know that real books and chapters of the bible have been taken out. Some bibles still have those fake books in them written by the pope's etc. I'll try to find the info and books that were that got taken out.

WHAT BOOKS WRITTEN BY THE POPE IN THE KING JAMES VERSOIN, OK GOODNIGHT LOL!

 

[Mi$ta-Murda187]

I'm saying those catholic bible's have those fake books in them. They were never inspired as that website says. But I know of REAL books and verses taken out by people long ago. I'll try to find the info. Some verses removed even qoute Jesus. This is why I say no one will find the truth. People have added to and taken from the bible so much it's hard to find the truth. But revelation says anyone who takes or removes from the Original texts will die.

I'm not talking about those fake books from that site. I know about those catholic version bible's. My friend from school had one and it has all the strange books in them.

One example that is real, is the fact that most bible's have taken god's name YHWH Elohim aka the Tetragrammatron (YHWH) out of the bible.

That's why I think it's funny when a magickan knows god's real name.. and most people will say hsi name is God.. Lord od Jesus.. God and Lord is just a title like Sir or Maddam.

I wonder who took his name out and why?" Along with all the other important things they removed and changed...