Question about the Matrix regarding what Shep(sp?) said.

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Mar 8, 2003
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Ive been reading in this forum for a while. Read alot of interesting shit and alot of knowlegable things. But this stuck out alot.

shep said:
even the matrix is very religiously involved.
How is it religiously involved?

just a question i wanna know.
 

shep

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Oct 2, 2002
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the whole thing.

you got buddhism, christianity, judaism in it

you got the resurrection of Neo, you have neo dieing for the betterment of people. you have the merovingian program (merovingians were direct desdcendants of JC)

do a google search on Religion and Matrix... you'll come up with shit like this: http://www.unomaha.edu/~wwwjrf/thematrix.htm
 
Dec 25, 2003
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The Christian messianic parallels are rather obvious. Neo, like Jesus, is the long-expected Messiah who is ultimately killed only to resurrect as a fully "divine" creature. The final scene even evokes the bodily ascent of Jesus to heaven. Also, Morpheus seems every bit the equivalent of John the Baptist, even to the point of baptizing Neo in a graphic scene in the liquid bowels of the human battery chambers. Trinity might be compared to Mary Magdalene and Cypher clearly parallels Judas.

The most fundamental problem according to Buddhism is our ignorance of existential reality. If we could perceive the true nature of reality and the path to enlightenment, condensed in Sakyamuni teaching of the three marks of existence (impermanence, no-self, and suffering) and the Four Noble Truths, then we could overcome our ignorant state and achieve the insight of a Buddha (the “awakened one”). This “problem of the mind” is reflected in the first two verses of the Dhammapada, an early collection of sayings attributed to the historical Buddha:

This is further and perhaps best articulated in the fourth century C.E. Mahayana philosophical school known as Yogacara, which resonates strikingly with The Matrix.6 Yogacara, also known as the “Consciousness Only” school (Vijñavada), asserts that the objective world we perceive to be real is ultimately a product of our minds.7 As with the Western Idealist tradition, this is not necessarily an ontological assertion (the objective world does not exist), though many observers have drawn this conclusion.8 Rather, this is more accurately an epistemological insight.9 That is, Western and Buddhist "idealism" emphasizes that every "object" is significantly altered by our perception and understanding; we know it second-hand as idea and we cannot know it before it is so transformed.
 
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Question though:

Was the Matrix plot *meant* at all to be religious, or were the overlapping elements (and somewhat cliche concepts, I might add) and ideas simply part of most science fiction writing (my opinion).