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Dana Dane

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Here's something else to get that 'Step' broad all in an up-roar!!

Sarai Looks to Prove White Girls Can Rap
Aug 4, 3:56 PM EST

Eminem has disproved the notion that white boys can't rap. White girls, on the other hand, have had almost zero impact on the genre in its 30-year history.

Remember Tairrie B? Probably not. Wait, there's ... hmmmm. Actually, the most influential white woman in rap history may be punk princess Deborah Harry, whose rhymes in the 1980 hit "Rapture" helped take rap mainstream.

But now a new face, Sarai, is raising hopes that there might be someone new — a Feminem — to go where none have gone before.

"Eminem has definitely opened people's minds, that there could be a white artist actually mastering the skill," says Sarai (rhymes with "goodbye"), a 20-year-old, blue-eyed blonde from Kingston, N.Y., about two hours north of the city where rap was born.

Her debut album, "The Original," was released by Epic Records last week. The first single, the party song "Ladies," has been getting airplay on hip-hop stations and MTV.

One of Sarai's producers is Scott Storch, a founding member of the hip-hop band The Roots who's worked with artists ranging from Eminem to Christina Aguilera.

Storch says when he first heard Sarai, "she was doing something different than I had ever heard before, sort of hip-hop with a white female, and actually bringing it off like a real sister. I was a little surprised and definitely a little intrigued."

Unlike Eminem, whose race is stamped all over his nasal delivery, Sarai's skin tone won't be readily apparent to listeners — she actually sounds a bit like one-time Jay-Z protege Amil.

Until the superstar producer Dr. Dre ushered Eminem into the rap game in 1999, white people had a checkered history in rap. Unless they completely dissed their white heritage — like the late 1980s group 3rd Bass — or delivered comedy — like the early Beastie Boys — they were usually dismissed.

And who could forget street poseur Vanilla Ice of "Ice Ice Baby" fame, who will go down in history as the Pat Boone of rap?

Even considering Vanilla Ice, rap has been worse for white women.

"I never came across a white female rapper who could rap," says Damon Dash, the Roc-A-Fella Records co-founder who helped put Jay-Z on the map.

A few have made blips. Eazy-E had protege Tairrie B, described back then as the Madonna of rap (she's since gone metal). The trio Luscious Jackson has gotten attention, though more from the rock contingent than the rap community.

Currently, the trio Northern State has gotten good reviews, and the group Fannypack, which had a minor hit this summer with the novelty song "Cameltoe," has a white rapper.

But for the most part, coming up with names of notable white female rappers seems like a challenging game of Trivial Pursuit.

Dash says that's "probably because there hasn't been anyone good enough. I mean, Eminem was like the first real good white male rapper."

"It's hard enough for any kind of female rapper to stay in the game and compete with the male rappers, so being white and being female makes it all that much harder," he said.

Princess Superstar, a sexually frank white rapper sometimes called the white Lil' Kim, can attest to that.

"We've got a lot of racial issues here, and sometimes it plays itself out in the music game," says the rapper, who puts out her music on her own label. "Any white female rapper is going to fight against being considered a novelty."

In addition, since rap is as much or more so about the street life than black life, white acts are often rejected for not having street cred.

Sarai's official bio makes it clear she wasn't a child of privilege, noting she's the daughter of a "single mother" and mentioning she took jobs to help support her family. She says she grew up in a multi-racial neighborhood with "all different kind of income levels."

"Everybody thinks that I'm from a big white house and this white picket fence and my parents bought me a Mercedes on my 16th birthday," she says.

Sarai says she grew up listening to Public Enemy, the Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac Shakur. She got her break when she met a producer in Atlanta during a vacation with a friend; she's lived in that music hotspot for the past four years.

Sarai describes her sound as more mainstream than hardcore rap, and her personality seems to bear that out. She describes herself as a "loving person" and doesn't pepper her talk with street slang (or even curses, catching herself before uttering a cuss during a recent interview).

Whether Sarai will make it big remains to be seen. But Dash says if she has the skills, she'll be accepted.

Record companies "are always looking to break a white rapper. They're always looking to break a white anything," laughs Dash. "If somebody is white and they can rap, that means MTV, that means middle America."

But Sarai says she hopes people eventually look past her skin color and see just another rapper.

"It's always gonna be, 'Yo, it's a white girl,'" she says. "Eventually, they have to look past it."

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On the Net:

Sarai: http://www.saraimusic.com

Princess Superstar: http://www.princesssuperstar.com
 

Doxx

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I was just gonna mention that girl! She was fuckin' horrible. Slim J.G. was her cool rap name.

Other ones are:

Fannypack who have a deal with Tommy Boy (they are a white girl, an asian girl and a black girl)

Northern State is three white girls trying to be like The Beastie Boys

Both of these groups are garbage although the asian girl in Fannypack can get it.
 
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CHECK IT OUT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT RACE A BITCH IS. THE FACT IS THAT BITCHES JUST CAN'T RAP. THEY DON'T GOT GAME OR CHARISMA. THEY BASICALLY JUST CONTRIBUTE TO FUCKING UP TRACKS THAT HAD POTENTIAL. I HAVE NEVER BOUGHT A FEMALE'S CD, EVER. IT WILL REMAIN THAT WAY. BITCHES SING. BITCHES IF YOU WANNA COME UP SELL YOUR BODY.
 
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Off the subject...

What kills me is that the media constantly uses references to Em everytime a white rapper (reguardless of gendre) steps into the scene. Like that mutha fucka was the only white rapper ever recieved well in this industry. Showcase mag did the same shit to us in the Feb/Mar issue, And I quote "Embarking on the path Marshall Mathers paved, San Francisco's Mighty the Saint, Jimmy the Butcher, and Slops Conley are the latest addition to the caucasian rap movement." We aint never followed nobody. In fact, Keltic Tribe's first album was recorded late "98" and released in "99." Em released with Aftermath that same year.
Point is that alot of us been at this way before we knew Em existed. Just some ol bullshit I had to address.
 
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That's real Jim...

Regarding females rapping, I agree a lot are wack and take away from songs, but a lot of you shouldn't be so quick to overlook talent when its there. I don't give a fuck what anyone says - marvaless is hard. Listen to "stompin in my steel toes" and tell me otherwise.
 
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NICKpro RM said:
Who saw that MTV true life "I'm getting divorced" with that white rapper chic? I practically pissed myself laughing so hard.
Yeah she was horrific, I haven't laughed that hard in years. Her lyrics were so predictable and her flow needed a lot of work.

Theirs nothing wrong with white girls rapping, if the woman is tight then it's all good. Rap music is universal...
 
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Yeah she was horrific, I haven't laughed that hard in years. Her lyrics were so predictable and her flow needed a lot of work.

Theirs nothing wrong with white girls rapping, if the woman is tight then it's all good. Rap music is universal...
Beutiful sig. I flew out there the year after that game and watched the niners get smashed!!!
 

Sydal

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Re: Off the subject...

JimmydaButcher said:
What kills me is that the media constantly uses references to Em everytime a white rapper (reguardless of gendre) steps into the scene. Like that mutha fucka was the only white rapper ever recieved well in this industry. Showcase mag did the same shit to us in the Feb/Mar issue, And I quote "Embarking on the path Marshall Mathers paved, San Francisco's Mighty the Saint, Jimmy the Butcher, and Slops Conley are the latest addition to the caucasian rap movement." We aint never followed nobody. In fact, Keltic Tribe's first album was recorded late "98" and released in "99." Em released with Aftermath that same year.
Point is that alot of us been at this way before we knew Em existed. Just some ol bullshit I had to address.
Yup, it is all BULLSHIT dawg. I've been rapping since 1993, I've NEVER changed my tone, I've always spoke on shit I know about and that I've been through. I remember in 1997-1998, people ALWAYS called me the "WHITE 2PAC" because of what I spoke on and how I said it (not giving a fuck)...and ever since Eminem came out, they started saying..."Oh ok, you rap? Like Eminem?" It's like NO BITCH, I DON'T FUCKIN RAP LIKE EMINEM!! I'm sick of being compared to dude, cause I ain't dude...I'm my own person. Sound nothing like Eminem, it's impossible, I hit puberty too early and got this DEEP VOICE thing goin on.

So yea, I feel you 100% pimp...if we could get our shit on the radio nationally, without showing faces, people wouldn't say shit, cause they would have no fuckin clue. But then they see you, and they go, OH SHIT, ANOTHER GROUP OF EMINEMS!!
 
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There's a white broad out of Riverside, Ca named Dominique, harder them most niggaz that have platinum records out, now she's working on her album with a Major label and you will be blown away when you hear her ass. I worked at Priority "weak ass" Records and she was the talk of the town then. But the only thing is she's GAY!!!!!!!!, but she can rap her ass off!!!!!!!!.