Micheal Moores take on the RNC

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Sep 9, 2003
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Micheal Moore has been invited to do an artical for USA TODAY every day of the RNC.

Ill post all of them each day. Here is todays the first of 5 I think.



/////Political conventions have become predictable rituals, four-day cheerleading sessions for both parties. So USA TODAY is offering readers an alternative perspective. Liberal filmmaker Michael Moore, director of Fahrenheit 9/11, is writing daily from the Republican convention in New York. A month ago, conservative National Review columnist Jonah Goldberg weighed in from the Democratic convention.///////


The GOP doesn't reflect America
Michael Moore, Filmmaker

NEW YORK — Welcome, Republicans. You're proud Americans who love your country. In your own way, you want to make this country a better place. Whatever our differences, you should be commended for that.
But what's all this talk about New York being enemy territory? Nothing could be further from the truth. We New Yorkers love Republicans. We have a Republican mayor and governor, a death penalty and two nuclear plants within 30 miles of the city.

New York is home to Fox News Channel. The top right-wing talk shows emanate from here — Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly among them. The Wall Street Journal is based here, which means your favorite street is here. Not to mention more Fortune 500 executives than anywhere else.

You may think you're surrounded by a bunch of latte-drinking effete liberals, but the truth is, you're right where you belong, smack in the seat of corporate America and conservative media.

Let me also say I admire your resolve. You're true believers. Even though only a third of the country defines itself as "Republican," you control the White House, Congress, Supreme Court and most state governments.

You're in charge because you never back down. Your people are up before dawn figuring out which minority group shouldn't be allowed to marry today.

Our side is full of wimps who'd rather compromise than fight. Not you guys.

Hanging out around the convention, I've encountered a number of the Republican faithful who aren't delegates. They warm up to me when they don't find horns or a tail. Talking to them, I discover they're like many people who call themselves Republicans but aren't really Republicans. At least not in the radical-right way that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, John Ashcroft and Co. have defined Republicans.

I asked one man who told me he was a "proud Republican," "Do you think we need strong laws to protect our air and water?"

"Well, sure," he said. "Who doesn't?"

I asked whether women should have equal rights, including the same pay as men.

"Absolutely," he replied.

"Would you discriminate against someone because he or she is gay?"

"Um, no." The pause — I get that a lot when I ask this question — is usually because the average good-hearted person instantly thinks about a gay family member or friend.

I've often found that if I go down the list of "liberal" issues with people who say they're Republican, they are quite liberal and not in sync with the Republicans who run the country. Most don't want America to be the world's police officer and prefer peace to war. They applaud civil rights, believe all Americans should have health insurance and think assault weapons should be banned. Though they may personally oppose abortion, they usually don't think the government has the right to tell a women what to do with her body.

There's a name for these Republicans: RINOs or Republican In Name Only. They possess a liberal, open mind and don't believe in creating a worse life for anyone else.

So why do they use the same label as those who back a status quo of women earning 75 cents to every dollar a man earns, 45 million people without health coverage and a president who has two more countries left on his axis-of-evil-regime-change list?

I asked my friend on the street. He said what I hear from all RINOs: "I don't want the government taking my hard-earned money and taxing me to death. That's what the Democrats do."

Money. That's what it comes down to for the RINOs. They do work hard and have been squeezed even harder to make ends meet. They blame Democrats for wanting to take their money. Never mind that it's Republican tax cuts for the rich and billions spent on the Iraq war that have created the largest deficits in history and will put all of us in hock for years to come.

The Republican Party's leadership knows America is not only filled with RINOs, but most Americans are much more liberal than the delegates gathered in New York.

The Republicans know it. That's why this week we're seeing gay-loving Rudy Giuliani, gun-hating Michael Bloomberg and abortion-rights advocate Arnold Schwarzenegger.

As tough of a pill as it is to swallow, Republicans know that the only way to hold onto power is to pass themselves off as, well, as most Americans. It's a good show.

So have a good time, Republicans. It could be your last happy party for awhile if all the RINOs and liberal majority figure it out on Nov. 2.
 
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i want to make it clear to the fourm that im not posting this because its a good read.... or because i think hes doin a great job goin toe to toe with consertives.

i just find it cool that USA today is gonna let him run an artical every day of the DNC. so i figured it make for a good thread to debate what he says every day for 5 days.
 
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I think Michael Moore is on to something here. Just look at the situation in South Africa. The Majority of the people are Black yet they are a minority. All the power lies with the white-Anglo Saxon people which make up one third of the population. Just like the United States, "Even though only a third of the country defines itself as "Republican," you control the White House, Congress, Supreme Court and most state governments."

Is this the "white devil"?

Not to mention 50% of the capital in the United States belongs to the upper class, Anglo-Saxon elite. Money talks bull shit walks.
 
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i simply honestly belive that your avg voters have no idea who stands for what on the issues.

ive said serveral times i need my morning c-span programing like a crack head needs 20 bucks. and simply because thats when they do a 2 hour call in show. where theyll bring in exsperts in a certain issue and open up the phone lines for viewers to call in and bitch or just give their opinion.

now the best part of it is that its basicly 100% unscreaned.

and the shit you hear people say is so fuckin sad.

a lot of people have no idea what party stands for what. and its great cause the exspert will break it down for them and theyll just be all like......ummmmmmmmmmmm well...................i dont know but i aint voteing for so and so.... or theyll just get mad and hang up.

and its both sides demos and republicans.

its just really eye opening. theirs a ton of hate and raceism out their.

oh and the south is the MOTHA FUCKIN WORST. when ever the announcer says "and up next darrel from georgia" you just know theirs some stupid ass points comeing.


i have no idea why people are like that but they are. and if they got the balls to openly give their uninformed views on national tv then you know theyre goin to the polls.

i still blame the media. seems to me that almost all political coverage is on trash and personal attacks. i watch every night and from fox news to cnn to cbs to the newspapers to radio. noone is talking about domestic issues. NOONE

and i have no idea how voters are souppost to be informed on those issues without the media.
 
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LOL LOL LOL LOL OL

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C-Span Morning Edition.

ROFL

The USA is filled with fuckin absolute MORONS. FUCKING IDIOTS. I LAUGH SO HARD WHEN I SEE THAT SHOW, I HAVE TO CHANGE THE CHANNEL. JESUS FUCK.

Holy shit. That shit is fucking hilarious. I have to change it...the stupidity rampant during the live call-in sections is an atrocity.
 
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Spitz, let me lace you on some game.

www.charlierose.com

Weeknights at 12 midnight on PBS/KQED. It's probly the most advanced, intelligent programming on TV. Sometimes its a wack ass topic or guest, like Colin Powell, but there is some good shit out there most of the time.
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
Spitz, let me lace you on some game.

www.charlierose.com

Weeknights at 12 midnight on PBS/KQED. It's probly the most advanced, intelligent programming on TV. Sometimes its a wack ass topic or guest, like Colin Powell, but there is some good shit out there most of the time.
i watch it all the time that im up that late. yeah its a great show. also while im working from 9am-11am i listen to NPR on the radio. i love npr the way the debate on their is fresh air from the way they do on cable news. 1 hour i make a point uninterupted now you get to do the same. its great.
 
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Spitz said:
i just find it cool that USA today is gonna let him run an artical every day of the DNC. so i figured it make for a good thread to debate what he says every day for 5 days.
ya, its so cool and so fair that they hired 2 extremists (Michael Moore and Anne Coulter) with Moore being the more extreme of the 2. They hired Anne Coulter to do the same job at the DNC as Moore is doing at the RNC.

The only catch is the USA Today is so fair that they fired Coulter as they tried to completely edit her piece so much it was nearly unrecognizable to her yet they let Moore AKA "a certain disengenuous filmmaker" write whatever he wants.
 
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this country is full of idiots

i was watching a clip from the rnc today and john mccain was talking, this shit he was sayin had me rolling

it was something along the lines of "our enemies want to completely destroy us, they dont respect human life, but all we want to do is spread love and peace throughout the world" and the voice he was talkin in was as if he was talking to a child, the shit was hilarious.
 
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That's probably because Ann Coulter is a fucking nutcase...LOL. This bitch accuses all liberals of "treason" and she once wrote that we should "invade the middle east, bomb their countries and convert their leaders to Christianity"...lmao.
 
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WHITE DEVIL said:
That's probably because Ann Coulter is a fucking nutcase...LOL. This bitch accuses all liberals of "treason" and she once wrote that we should "invade the middle east, bomb their countries and convert their leaders to Christianity"...lmao.

they didnt hire MOORE hes gone after the RNC is over its a temp thing. and its not to counter ann coulter it to counter National Review columnist Jonah Goldberg. your another moron. go to bed wake up early and call c-span.
 
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Spitz said:
they didnt hire MOORE hes gone after the RNC is over its a temp thing. and its not to counter ann coulter it to counter National Review columnist Jonah Goldberg. your another moron. go to bed wake up early and call c-span.

OOPS SORRY WD I QUOTED THE WRONG PERSON. I MET TO QUOTE Mcleanhatch.

SORRY
 
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I think Michael Moore is on to something here. Just look at the situation in South Africa. The Majority of the people are Black yet they are a minority. All the power lies with the white-Anglo Saxon people which make up one third of the population. Just like the United States, "Even though only a third of the country defines itself as "Republican," you control the White House, Congress, Supreme Court and most state governments."
Moore is trying to bullshit you guys AGAIN. ya of course only 34% of Americans define themselves as "republicans", big deal only 30% define themselves as "democrats" and the rest define themselves as independants, greens, commies, socialists, ect....

the reality is that close to 55% of the population consider themselves to be CONSERVATIVES, while only about 25% consider themselves to be LIBERALS, and the rest are moderate and even the majority of those moderates are right-leaning
 
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Moore is trying to bullshit you guys AGAIN. ya of course only 34% of Americans define themselves as "republicans", big deal only 30% define themselves as "democrats" and the rest define themselves as independants, greens, commies, socialists, ect....
34% of the country calls themselves "Republicans". Republicans control the presidency, house, congress, judiciary, and most state governments at this point. That doesn't seem very fair and balanced to me.

Moore didn't say that "there were more liberals than Republicans". Moore simply said "they are 30% of the country, yet they control a huge amount of it. (Or in the snakecharmer Bush's words, "a vast majority")

the reality is that close to 55% of the population consider themselves to be CONSERVATIVES, while only about 25% consider themselves to be LIBERALS, and the rest are moderate and even the majority of those moderates are right-leaning
There is a stigma against the word "liberal" that doesn't exist for "conservative". I'm sure the real number among moderates is alot higher.