JESUS CAMP

[BaSICCally]

I just watched this movie, I was just wondering if anyone else has watched it, if so what did you think about it?

I was tripping when I saw Ted Haggard.

 

[Deadpool]

I didn’t enjoy it as much as I had hoped. I was hoping for a documentary in the way the film makers tried to present the film when I heard them interviewed. Instead I got the type of film this was hyped as. Which was disappointing.

Here is a link to a previous thread on the subject and some key quotes from my posts in it:

http://www.siccness.net/vb/showthread.php?t=216052&page=3&highlight=jesus+camp

This movie didn't convince me of crazy right wing christian extremists indoctrinating their children with their off the wall ideology. We all know Sunday school exists many, if not most, have been there.

Although, this movie did back up my thoughts that supposed "leftist" and &"liberal" types are just as easily duped by propaganda and outrageous storytelling as their opponents on the right.

Fuckin suckers.


What it all boils down to though is that behind all the hype there isn’t a very entertaining or good film here.

It is really like sunday school for a few weeks in the summer for these kids. They show in the film what their churches(and homes) are like and what they do there. The camp isn’t any different. Except instead of going back home to continue their home schooling and going to church they sleep in a cabin with other kids and get to play in the woods and stuff. Indoc time at camp is the same as indoc time at church.

“Liberals” are being “duped” into falling for the same simple generalizations and hatred that they condemn their opponents for. The same basics of propaganda that the “right” uses to rile its supporters are the same tactics used in these “documentaries” that rile up the “left”. If the “left” was so intellectually superior, which they often claim to be, they wouldn’t be as easily misled in the same way as the mentally inferior right.

Propaganda films historically have disguised themselves as documentaries, news films, teaching tools, etc. Though convincing the “information” provided is not necessarily valid or factual. Most documentaries today do not have the sole purpose of passing on information rather the objective is to present and issue in a very subjective and intentionally misleading light, persuasion rather than information. Since most people rarely if ever double check what they heard in a propaganda piece they assume it is fact. To paraphrase Homer Simpson “TV wouldn’t lie”.

Studying propaganda and propaganda film especially, with the most basic of knowledge, you can see the elements at play. Having actually seen this film I’m obviously in a better position to give such an opinion. I feel the film (and the way it has been marketed and discussed in the media & on the internet) plays an important role in stereotyping a segment of the population by playing to people’s most basic of feelings toward children. It appeals to the “left’s” fear & prejudice and demonizes the “enemy”.

I’m not saying the people portrayed in the film aren’t indoctrinating children. I’m not agreeing with their methods or their ideology. Rather, what I am commenting on and find objectionable, is the way they are portrayed is not meant to present fact, but as a way to rally people against them. And even more so what I have contempt for are the people that fall for the propaganda, yet criticize others on the opposite side for falling for it too. I think a mirror needs to be held up to a lot of people with this reaction of righteous indignation when people “get fooled by Bush” or “fall for Fox News’ lies”, yet they fall for the same things themselves.

 

[ThaG]

I can't believe such a practice is possible in the 21st century in a supposedly civilised and secular state....

what I saw was just scary.... wow....

 

[[-KoRp$-]559]

like I said I saw these fuckers when I stayed in mexico tryin to brain wash us lil mexican kids lol

 

[Deadpool]

^^ that's funny last time I was down there I was talking with this guy and we're watching tourists go past and he goes "Here come the missionaries" and he was able to pick them out of the crowd of tourists and point out which ones were the missionaries. And it wasn’t like they had big I Love Jesus shirts on either.