HARSH TIMES the movie

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AidsFactory said:
Was it any good I was considering going to watch it but shit got all fucked up and forgot all about it. Big fan of Bale really like the Machinest, Equilibrium, and American Psycho
It was koo I mean was not the best movie, but I mean from my point of view I kinda was feeling the movie because I can understand what vato was goin thru as far as what the war did to him.
 
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WXS STOMP3R said:
THAT MOVIE IS OUT ALREADY??? PREVIEWS LOOK GOOD.
BREAK DOWN THE STORY SOME.
Well ill do my best haha
If the website did not help,its about these two friends.Ones like all on his trip to get a job because his ol lady is on his ass and the other vato is a cyco'd out war vet and they both just fucking around doin nada,gettin drunk an high and just lookin for come ups,but then the vato from the war gets a break and has a good chance to get a good job and so does the other guy, but all their screwing around gets them caught up,i wont say much more.
Its a good movie in a way, but like i said I can understand and feel it from a person whos had family in the military an what it does to the mind.
 
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rose town ryda said:
looks like training day 2
Made by same people if I remember correct,the feel of the movie kinda is like training day just with a twist an they are not cops.
But the war vet fool haha mayne he kept it on edge an crackin.
Makes me wanna go hang out with my bro in law an hear his war stories, then get him drunk an turn him loose on people, nah i would not do that,he's already been to jail for fuckin fools up at bars.
Fucked up part tho is that the judge said since he was a skilled ranger that he should not fight.then my bro being a smart ass said so what ur honor am i suppose to let 10 guys jump me an fuck me up the ass too? haha
 
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it was koo.. Christian Bale is a good actor but the way he talked in that movie seemed kinda out of place.. AMERICAN PSYCHO was the shit thought, fav movie of all time
 
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JackArtist510 said:
it was koo.. Christian Bale is a good actor but the way he talked in that movie seemed kinda out of place.. AMERICAN PSYCHO was the shit thought, fav movie of all time
Well u kinda gotta figure he a white guy Livin an from the barrio an the barrio adapted itself onto his character.
so hence him having the cholo slang an walk,then u add the military an his mind being half gone n beer n weed u gonna get sum crazy .
 
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heres a review of the movie:

United States, 2006
U.S. Release Date: 11/10/06 (wide)
Running Length: 1:52
MPAA Classification: R (Violence, profanity, drug use)
Theatrical Aspect Ratio: 1.85:1
Cast: Christian Bale, Freddy Rodriguez, Eva Longoria, Chaka Forman, Tammy Trull
Director: David Ayer
Screenplay: David Ayer
Cinematography: Steve Mason
Music: Graeme Revell
U.S. Distributor: MGM

First and foremost, Harsh Times is a character study of a man whose psychotic dark side is rising up to dominate his personality. However, it's also a look at how war, because of its need to legitimatize killing and turn people into weapons, can result in the dissolution of humanity. When we consider casualty reports from battles, the numbers reflect death and physical injury. One thing that is never listed is the psychological toll. Few individuals who go off to war and experience its devastation and chaos return as the same person. This factor lies at the heart of what Harsh Times illustrates.

We do not know Jim Davis (Christian Bale) before he goes away to participate in the Gulf War. Aside from some nightmarish flashbacks, the film transpires after Jim's tour of duty is over. He's back in South Central L.A., looking for a job. He's clearly a disturbed individual, but there are clues in the words and actions of others that he was once a generous, laid-back individual. That's not the Jim with whom we become familiar over the two hour span of Harsh Times This Jim is a seething mass of anger and frustration with a hair trigger. When the circumstances call for it, he can be respectful and caring, but those qualities are increasingly in less evidence as his need for risk taking and his paranoid psychosis dominate his personality. This places his best friend, Mike (Freddy Rodriguez), and his Mexican girlfriend, Marta (Tammy Trull), at risk.

Jim and Mike go out for a drive, ostensibly looking for jobs. This is a source of concern for Mike's live-in lover, Sylvia (Eva Longoria). She wants Mike to find employment but doesn't trust Jim. Mike sees his friend for who he was; Sylvia sees him for who he has become. When Jim's application to become an L.A. police officer is rejected after he fails his psychological profile, he spends the day hanging out with Mike, drinking, doing drugs, and committing petty crimes to get a few dollars. Eventually, the Department of Homeland Security shows interest in Jim but Mike is no closer to getting a job and he is becoming more enmeshed in Jim's self-destructive web.

Harsh Times occasionally echoes Taxi Driver, Ayer's own Training Day, and even First Blood in the way it examines the psychological disintegration of a character and the seduction of amorality. This movie isn't as compelling as the first two and isn't as viscerally crowd-pleasing as the third, but there are enough good points to make Harsh Times worth consideration. Chief of those is the volcanic performance of a pre-Batman Begins Christian Bale. Bale plays Jim as an ordinary guy whose psyche has been pulled too tight by circumstances. When Mike asks him what it's like to kill someone, he replies that it's nothing. For Jim, this is the truth, not bravado. He is not a colorful anti-hero; he's a frightening one. Spending two hours with him is harrowing and uncomfortable. It has its rewards, but they are not conventional ones. Those who demand a connection between the audience and a film's main character will not relate to what Harsh Times has to offer.

Ayer wrote this script before the United States launched its recent war against Iraq. It was filmed nearly two years ago, but the distance between inception and release has deepened the immediacy of the subject matter. Ayer argues that war damages even seemingly healthy young men and, in a twist of bitter irony, those who are the most psychologically disturbed may be the best choices for covert law enforcement jobs. As long at they can be controlled, at least for a time, who is better at leading a dangerous operation than someone who has been trained to kill and who has lost the fear of death? These issues and questions exist within Harsh Times' subtext. The narrative is about Mike getting re-acquainted with his old friend, learning how different Jim has become in so many small ways, and trying to survive their short time together.
 

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JackArtist510 said:
it was koo.. Christian Bale is a good actor but the way he talked in that movie seemed kinda out of place.. AMERICAN PSYCHO was the shit thought, fav movie of all time


thats what my friends were saying...but the more i saw thought about it, and the way it seemed, i dont think he was talking that way to be serious, he was kinda throwing it around like a joke between friends...my friends and i make fun of the way we talk all the time...i thought this movie had its flaws, like training day, but it was dope...id give it an 8.5/10.
 
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Sounds very interesting, will definitely peep it out. I've been a fan of Christian Bale ever since Amerikan Psycho. I like his choice of movie roles, typically darker shit...

Is he also in another movie that came out this year? By the same director that directed the last Batman (with Christian Bale)? Ah, The Prestige is what it's called. Also looks pretty dark. Anyone see that??