ANYONE EVER SEE THIS SITE? WHAT U THINK ABOUT IT?
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I really enjoy the site.
This site is the real my friend. This guy is real cool and there are truths in it. If you notice some of the people on there hate that guy because he is telling the truth and devils hate the truth. I enjoy the site. My pops hooked me on to it. It really brings to light some things that churches are afriad to tell you because it will offset the church business. Open your eyes to the lies that the churches have shown us.
This site is the real my friend. This guy is real cool and there are truths in it. If you notice some of the people on there hate that guy because he is telling the truth and devils hate the truth. I enjoy the site. My pops hooked me on to it. It really brings to light some things that churches are afriad to tell you because it will offset the church business. Open your eyes to the lies that the churches have shown us.
http://www.bible-truths.com/tithing.html
If u have anytime to read...
READ THIS SHIT!
Very very ...Good!
and i like the fact that all the info he gives on how Tithing is WRONG....comes directly from the bible!
just a piece..
5000
If u have anytime to read...
READ THIS SHIT!
Very very ...Good!
and i like the fact that all the info he gives on how Tithing is WRONG....comes directly from the bible!
just a piece..
5000
He has spoke on things a lot of people have touched on and only a fool would believe everything found on the site. An example of what I disagree with is his position on the Sons of God as stated in Genesis 6 and his position on missing books of the bible. He says gen 6 is a mistranslation (provides no proof to validate the claim) yet makes an arguement about missing books of the bible, how they should be included and why the current bible is error. The books he makes reference to actually DESTROY his arguement pertaining to gen 6 and go into GREAT detail about it.
^CAUSE THEY BELIEVE JESUS IS (gOD). SO IF SHE'S THE MOTHER OF (gOD), SHE MUST BE MORE POWERFUL THAN HIM. THAT'S HOW THEY SEE IT. AND SHE A VIRgIN CAUSE JOSEPH DIDN'T gET TO POUND IT FOR JESUS TO BE BORN. THE HOLY SPIRIT TOOK CARE OF THAT. SO SHE CONCEIVED A CHILD WITHOUT BEIN' TAMPERED BY MAN, THUS A VIRgIN.
The New Testament we have today (nearly every translation in print) is vastly different than the originals. I suppose this was a thread for Christians, but I believe even more important than this website is the argument about whether or not *any* of the Bibles in print today even put forth the same concepts as the original manuscripts. (of which None survive)
They will deny it, but basically Christianity is a polytheist religion, NOT a monotheist religion. They, like the pagans, have multiple deities (God, Jesus, The Holy Ghost, Satan, The Virgin Mary(mostly catholics on this one)). Yes, they have one creator, but this does not make it monotheism, the fact that they have multiple deities more closely relates Christianity to pagan religions and polytheism than anything else. They may share texts and scriptures with the Jews, but their concept of multiple deities and such is that of the pagans. Christianity is Rome's version of Judaism.
He leans towards islam and his book is nothing more than a book seeking to proclaim "this is right and that is wrong."
Why does he list alleged contradictions of the bible but fail to list alleged contradictions of the quran? Why does he group the quran and science together (making them appear to be cohesive) but fail to list the old and new testament relations to modern science? Why does he focus on the works of Jesus when clearly they have NOTHING to do with modern science?
If you were to write a book, and present the info in an unbiased manner you would not make statements such as He makes this statement BEFORE he provides info to validate his claim. If you are unbiased you will present the info, stats, source cited, bibliography and let the READER accept or reject the information.
@Funk 3 you said:
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To make the claim that christianity is a polytheist religion you must prove christianity WORSHIPS more than one god. I don't know of any "christian" who worships more than one god.
Please define "deity." If a deity is a DIVINE being to be worshipped why is satan and mary on your list, and what is your opinion that God is composed of three PARTS and not three Gods? If a deity is a DIVINE being but worship is NOT a requirement what is your position on monothiestic religions such as islam that have Shatan (satan) and Jinn?
Please define monotheism, thanks.
Please refer to my last two statements.
What are these texts and scriptures shared with jews? Can you please provide into on multiple deities and pagans? What is your position on Jews and the multiple dieties they have?
Your opinion.
Why does he list alleged contradictions of the bible but fail to list alleged contradictions of the quran? Why does he group the quran and science together (making them appear to be cohesive) but fail to list the old and new testament relations to modern science? Why does he focus on the works of Jesus when clearly they have NOTHING to do with modern science?
If you were to write a book, and present the info in an unbiased manner you would not make statements such as He makes this statement BEFORE he provides info to validate his claim. If you are unbiased you will present the info, stats, source cited, bibliography and let the READER accept or reject the information.
@Funk 3 you said:
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To make the claim that christianity is a polytheist religion you must prove christianity WORSHIPS more than one god. I don't know of any "christian" who worships more than one god.
Please define "deity." If a deity is a DIVINE being to be worshipped why is satan and mary on your list, and what is your opinion that God is composed of three PARTS and not three Gods? If a deity is a DIVINE being but worship is NOT a requirement what is your position on monothiestic religions such as islam that have Shatan (satan) and Jinn?
Please define monotheism, thanks.
Please refer to my last two statements.
What are these texts and scriptures shared with jews? Can you please provide into on multiple deities and pagans? What is your position on Jews and the multiple dieties they have?
Your opinion.
Like i said from what i heard and read a little this book seemed unbiased. Maybe he seemed more towards islam because he didnt find anything wrong with the Quran? the supposed alleged allegations towards the contradictions in the Quran that some people bring up are absolutley absurd, and hold no weight. This guy on the other hand went and studied arabic and read the real Quran which is in arabic, becuase other than arabic its merley a translation. He did criticize the hadeeths though and that comes after the Quran but hadeeths are not Gods words. This guy was not a muslim, his book as to my knowledge was only published in french and english, so muslims where not his targeted audience. There is absolutley NO DOUBT dot for dot about the authenticity of the Quran from the time it was revealed until today.
I already spoke about the contradictions in the Quran and i dont like to speak about contradictions of the bible because thats still a book from God although it has been translated over and over and been tampered with. The Quran is FIRST a book of Guidance and i dont like how the author made it seem that its a book of science yet as the author found out there are many scientific facts which in NO way was accessible to people up to 50 years ago and less. I thought he did speak about the scientific facts in the bible and torah but i guess not, this could be because there are many things in the bible that where scientifically proven to be false. The Quran is a book of guidance and the scientific facts in the Quran are merely signs for the people living today, the Quran is the book of guidance until the last day.
A book with just info, and stats would be boring without the authors input, because he went through this stuff. For instance a when a scientists goes and does an experiment does he only post his data and results? because the data and stats are in the book but in some cases he puts in his conclusions, and conclusions are not biased, biased would be the support of his hypothesis or original thought which was to disprove all 3 books. Conclusions are interpretations of the data. The author is not trying to tell anyone what religion to believe in. But then again thats my biased opinion. When the truth is said, its not being biased towards one and against the others, its simply the truth.
I already spoke about the contradictions in the Quran and i dont like to speak about contradictions of the bible because thats still a book from God although it has been translated over and over and been tampered with. The Quran is FIRST a book of Guidance and i dont like how the author made it seem that its a book of science yet as the author found out there are many scientific facts which in NO way was accessible to people up to 50 years ago and less. I thought he did speak about the scientific facts in the bible and torah but i guess not, this could be because there are many things in the bible that where scientifically proven to be false. The Quran is a book of guidance and the scientific facts in the Quran are merely signs for the people living today, the Quran is the book of guidance until the last day.
A book with just info, and stats would be boring without the authors input, because he went through this stuff. For instance a when a scientists goes and does an experiment does he only post his data and results? because the data and stats are in the book but in some cases he puts in his conclusions, and conclusions are not biased, biased would be the support of his hypothesis or original thought which was to disprove all 3 books. Conclusions are interpretations of the data. The author is not trying to tell anyone what religion to believe in. But then again thats my biased opinion. When the truth is said, its not being biased towards one and against the others, its simply the truth.
Would you agree that if he leans more towards Islam that he is in fact biased? How do we know he found nothing wrong with the quran when he FAILED to hold the quran to the same standards as he did the bible and jewish texts? Proof of this may be found in his position concerning the the bible and science and the quran and science.
And, the alleged contradictions pertaining to the bible that some people bring up are absolutely absurd and hold no weight. If he is going to address alleged contradictions in the bible, he should hold the quran to the same standards and address the alleged contradictions in the quran.
So? Can you please tell me how this is relevent to our discussion? Even in arabic the alleged contradictions STILL exist. Did he take the time to study the Greek, Hebrew and Latin scriptures to clear misconceptions concerning the bible or did he simply crack open a KJV and start listing things that appear to contradict? If knowledge of Arabic (or aramaic) qualify him to speak on the quran the LACK of Greek, Hebrew and Latin should disqualify him from speaking on the bible.
How does criticism of the hadeeths relate to criticism of the quran? If you are going to critique the main books give them ALL the same treatment.
If muslims were not his target audience who was the book intended for? The catholics who he had an issue with? Why is it that some muslims DO claim he was a muslim? Does one need to be a muslim to be sympathetic to muslim cause or bias?
If doubt does not exist why do I doubt it? If doubt does not exist why does the author fail to hold the quran to the same measuring stick as he does the bible? If no doubt exists why does the author fail to take a position showing WHY the quran is authentic?
When did you speak about contradictions in the quran? They are not in this post, but to be honest I am not asking you to speak on them. I am asking why the author has failed to elaborate and provide unbiased research. Which bible has been translated over and over and tampered with?
No, he does not speak about scientific facts in the bible and torah and this is being biased. What scientific facts did he present that were not accessible 50 years ago?
The SAME can be said for the quran if you sit on the other side of the fence. Why should the reader be forced to assume the bible is incorrect when the author does not present the book in the same fashion? How do you know many things in the bible are proven to be false? Why does the author fail to mention it?
Your commentary on the quran is noted, but what does it have to do with the questions posed to you?
As soon as the author gives his personal input to persuade the reader (especially in the MIDDLE of the writing) he is no longer objective. I see nothing wrong in presenting all three sides, holding them to the same standard and commenting on them. THAT is being unbiased.
When a scientist does an experiment he is objective. When test subjects are used I am sure the same methods of testing are applied to the subject. The conclusions are NOT biased IF the scientist has used the SAME STANDARD OF TESTING WHILE PERFORMING THE EXPERIEMENT. The author of the book has NOT held the scriptures to the same standards as the quran and this creates BIAS. His book is not factual reporting equivilent to scientific (or journal) analysis. If it were he would explain the topic, how he will present the subject matter and how he will test the subject matter. After that he would explain A and give the results of A (b, c , d etc.) AFTER that he would explain his position, which one he feels is correct (based on study) and WHY it is correct. The author of the book has NOT done so.
So how do you conclude the bible has been mistranslated or is erroneous when presented scientifically?
The author is telling the reader the quran is correct, the bible is false, and the torah is false, but he fails to give them ALL the SAME treatment.
You have the right to your opinion, but I did not imply the author was attemtpting to make the reader believe in one religion over the other. What I have stated is the author leans towards islam and presents a case of this is correct and these are not correct.
Again I quote the author:
God bless you.
And, the alleged contradictions pertaining to the bible that some people bring up are absolutely absurd and hold no weight. If he is going to address alleged contradictions in the bible, he should hold the quran to the same standards and address the alleged contradictions in the quran.
So? Can you please tell me how this is relevent to our discussion? Even in arabic the alleged contradictions STILL exist. Did he take the time to study the Greek, Hebrew and Latin scriptures to clear misconceptions concerning the bible or did he simply crack open a KJV and start listing things that appear to contradict? If knowledge of Arabic (or aramaic) qualify him to speak on the quran the LACK of Greek, Hebrew and Latin should disqualify him from speaking on the bible.
How does criticism of the hadeeths relate to criticism of the quran? If you are going to critique the main books give them ALL the same treatment.
If muslims were not his target audience who was the book intended for? The catholics who he had an issue with? Why is it that some muslims DO claim he was a muslim? Does one need to be a muslim to be sympathetic to muslim cause or bias?
If doubt does not exist why do I doubt it? If doubt does not exist why does the author fail to hold the quran to the same measuring stick as he does the bible? If no doubt exists why does the author fail to take a position showing WHY the quran is authentic?
When did you speak about contradictions in the quran? They are not in this post, but to be honest I am not asking you to speak on them. I am asking why the author has failed to elaborate and provide unbiased research. Which bible has been translated over and over and tampered with?
No, he does not speak about scientific facts in the bible and torah and this is being biased. What scientific facts did he present that were not accessible 50 years ago?
The SAME can be said for the quran if you sit on the other side of the fence. Why should the reader be forced to assume the bible is incorrect when the author does not present the book in the same fashion? How do you know many things in the bible are proven to be false? Why does the author fail to mention it?
Your commentary on the quran is noted, but what does it have to do with the questions posed to you?
As soon as the author gives his personal input to persuade the reader (especially in the MIDDLE of the writing) he is no longer objective. I see nothing wrong in presenting all three sides, holding them to the same standard and commenting on them. THAT is being unbiased.
When a scientist does an experiment he is objective. When test subjects are used I am sure the same methods of testing are applied to the subject. The conclusions are NOT biased IF the scientist has used the SAME STANDARD OF TESTING WHILE PERFORMING THE EXPERIEMENT. The author of the book has NOT held the scriptures to the same standards as the quran and this creates BIAS. His book is not factual reporting equivilent to scientific (or journal) analysis. If it were he would explain the topic, how he will present the subject matter and how he will test the subject matter. After that he would explain A and give the results of A (b, c , d etc.) AFTER that he would explain his position, which one he feels is correct (based on study) and WHY it is correct. The author of the book has NOT done so.
So how do you conclude the bible has been mistranslated or is erroneous when presented scientifically?
The author is telling the reader the quran is correct, the bible is false, and the torah is false, but he fails to give them ALL the SAME treatment.
You have the right to your opinion, but I did not imply the author was attemtpting to make the reader believe in one religion over the other. What I have stated is the author leans towards islam and presents a case of this is correct and these are not correct.
Again I quote the author:
God bless you.
real quick reply, I dont care which side of the fence you sit on science cannot disprove anyhting in the Quran infact if anything science learns from the Quran. Like i said i have not read the whole book, so i dont know what scientific facts he talked about that was in the Quran but i can run you through some real quick...Embroyo's shape and development, evolution, big bang theory, big crunch, expansion on the universe, jibraltors pass, theory of relativity, speed of light etc.. etc.. etc.. science cannot prove that the Quran is wrong in any way. Now with the book i got my opinion and you have yours but heres some question that came up in my head from reading your reply...How do you know that the bible you are reading really is the real bible? i mean theres thousands of different copies some missing whole books...Does the real bible in aramiac exist? how old are those aramiac and hebrew scriptures because if you can date them back to that time then there should only be one copy of the bible correct? there would be no confusion on which book to follow...one last question in the KJV i read something that stuck to me and to this day i ask my friends this but they cant give me an answer i havent asked a priest or preacher yet so ill ask you...Exodus chapter 20 the first 5 or so verses3\ goes something like this...Im the ONE God do not put any graven images unto me, I am nothing like what i have created in the universe, on earth and beneath the seas.....Ever read the gospel of Barnabad
May God guide ME and you on the correct path....
May God guide ME and you on the correct path....