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Seems to be a common misconception these days. Truth is Manny never once said he's scared of needles, never. The only thing he said is giving blood makes him feel woozy/weak and didn't want to give blood on the day of the fight or whatever. Crook Arum is the one that said "i don't know, maybe the guys scared of needles" or something along those lines. Whatever, old news, just pointing out Pac never said that.
So if you get woozy or weak from giving blood why the fuck would you get a tat? And it ain't like they were drawing pints.
 
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It really depends on how much blood they draw. Anymore than 3 x 6ml amps and I start getting dizzy. I'll pass out at 5 or 6 6ml amps, most people do. Especially at the rate they draw. It takes up to 6-8 weeks for your body to regenerate the red blood cells (which holds your oxygen, basically aiding your stamina).

Whenever I run blood I'm out of the gym for at least a day or two.
Run blood and get into a 12rd fight? I wouldn't.

Again, it really depends on how much they plan to draw.
 
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So if you get woozy or weak from giving blood why the fuck would you get a tat? And it ain't like they were drawing pints.
I don't want to go down a time warp here, but after Pacquiao lost to Erik Morales the first fight, they randomly took blood from him in the dressing room just about an hour before the fight. He said he felt weekened from it. There is old ass video's on YouTube where Pac talks about it long before any potential Floyd fight talk began.

Personally speaking I always feel a bit woozy after any blood is drawn. Probably a mental thing for me idk I just don't like seeing my blood drawn for some reason. But anyways, that's where that comes from, Bob did an interview at some point and said Pacs afraid of needles and people ran with it as if Pac said it.

Now of course eventually, after random blood testing has been used, Pac does it now and will do it for Chris. As far as I know, in all of these fights to date, none of them have taken blood hours before the fight. They have the option, but none have as Im sure they are way more concerned with testing fighters during training camp, not in the cool down period or hours before (the commission and the 3rd party testing agencies will draw blood after the fight though ).
 
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Got my ticket for this today....

Samuel Peter vs. Ron Aubrey, 8 rounds, heavyweights; Ricardo Mayorga vs. Allen Medina, 8 rounds, middleweights; Yory Boy Campas vs. Julio Cesar Lanzas, 8 rounds, middleweights; Grady Brewer vs. Said Ouali, 8 rounds, junior middleweights; Alex Saucedo vs. Mike Tutt, 8 rounds, middleweights; Carson Jones vs. Joel Vargas, 6 rounds, welterweights; Rolando Garza vs. Joe Strong, 4 rounds, junior middleweights; Martin Morales vs. Jeremiah Torres, 8 rounds, welterweights; Cody Crowley vs. Larry Smith, 6 rounds, junior middleweights

I don't care what anyone says about this card, I've definitely spent $28 in worse ways than this.
I love going to local shows. You should see if Yory Boy does any talking after the fight. I'm curious as to his condition, he's taken some punishment throughout his career.

It's a shame if he's still fighting cause he has to keep fighting. Dude was once upon a time thought and was damn near being marketed to be the next Chavez
 
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I don't want to go down a time warp here, but after Pacquiao lost to Erik Morales the first fight, they randomly took blood from him in the dressing room just about an hour before the fight. He said he felt weekened from it. There is old ass video's on YouTube where Pac talks about it long before any potential Floyd fight talk began.

Personally speaking I always feel a bit woozy after any blood is drawn. Probably a mental thing for me idk I just don't like seeing my blood drawn for some reason. But anyways, that's where that comes from, Bob did an interview at some point and said Pacs afraid of needles and people ran with it as if Pac said it.

Now of course eventually, after random blood testing has been used, Pac does it now and will do it for Chris. As far as I know, in all of these fights to date, none of them have taken blood hours before the fight. They have the option, but none have as Im sure they are way more concerned with testing fighters during training camp, not in the cool down period or hours before (the commission and the 3rd party testing agencies will draw blood after the fight though ).
He also blamed not being able to knock Marquez out due to wearing the wrong socks in the first fight. And he never said that he felt weak in the Morales fight until the Mayweather/testing issue came up to my knowledge so that was even more b.s.

Only valid excuse is he wore Winning gloves instead of Reyes. Morales outclassed him and traded blow for blow in the 12th round as a southpaw. He got owned and got payback. Any other excuse other than the gloves is a lie.

I know you're not defending him but that was a stupid stance. No athlete should feel "weak" after getting a few vials of blood taken out. He makes it seem like he singlehandledly ran a blood drive to save the Philippines or something.
 
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I love going to local shows. You should see if Yory Boy does any talking after the fight. I'm curious as to his condition, he's taken some punishment throughout his career.

It's a shame if he's still fighting cause he has to keep fighting. Dude was once upon a time thought and was damn near being marketed to be the next Chavez
I'm sure it'll be an entertaining show regardless. Yory Boy should've retired forever ago. He's tough as hell though. I'm curious what kinda shape he's in too. He's fought well over 100 times at this point. Word is, if he and Mayorga win, they are gonna fight each other.

My homie from the gym Alex Saucedo is fighting, so I'm excited about that. I haven't seen him fight since his amateur days other than sparring.

Carson Jones is also fighting, but I'd just read something saying he had retired like 3 weeks ago? That's boxing I guess.
 
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He also blamed not being able to knock Marquez out due to wearing the wrong socks in the first fight. And he never said that he felt weak in the Morales fight until the Mayweather/testing issue came up to my knowledge so that was even more b.s.

Only valid excuse is he wore Winning gloves instead of Reyes. Morales outclassed him and traded blow for blow in the 12th round as a southpaw. He got owned and got payback. Any other excuse other than the gloves is a lie.

I know you're not defending him but that was a stupid stance. No athlete should feel "weak" after getting a few vials of blood taken out. He makes it seem like he singlehandledly ran a blood drive to save the Philippines or something.
Nah, the interview of him talking about being weak was shortly after the first Morales fight and before the second Morales fight, a looooong time before Floyd. Here is the video:



It was two days before the fight, not the day of, mistake on my part. He said he felt weak after the blood was drawn, partly because he wasn't allowed to drink water or eat any food (cutting weight for the weigh in). Now, whether or not that is just an excuse from Pacquiao, or if he honestly believes thats what weakened him, that I'm not debating, only showing you that this is what he said long before Floyd came around as a potential opponent (Pacquiao had just moved up to 130 from 126 to fight Morales).





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I'm not saying if it's a lame excuse or not. The point was that's what he said all the way back in 2005 (obviously that's four years before Floyd).

I don't know how much they take but I remember on 24/7 they took four vials from Mosley. I don't know what size and all that, just remember four of them.
 

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Seems to be a common misconception these days. Truth is Manny never once said he's scared of needles, never. The only thing he said is giving blood makes him feel woozy/weak and didn't want to give blood on the day of the fight or whatever. Crook Arum is the one that said "i don't know, maybe the guys scared of needles" or something along those lines. Whatever, old news, just pointing out Pac never said that.


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What are you replying to? I didn't even see a Pacquiao post on the last page.
I knew u would come to Manny's rescue everytime he gets called out for his wack shit lol. Classic. Got Em!!
 
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A full hormonal panel is at least 4 vials, 6ml a piece. It's a good amount and training is not very easy to do the day or and even the day after. I've almost passed out before. Took a knee and walked right out of the gym.

I've got one coming up in a couple of months.
Would you say that if you were cutting weight while these vials were collected that could make things worse, like Pac claimed against Morales?
 
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Would you say that if you were cutting weight while these vials were collected that could make things worse, like Pac claimed against Morales?
I agree because I do it about once a year.

Plus I'm not cutting weight, I hydrate as much as possible, eat a ton of liver and spinach (iron rich), just to get my plasma going again. Even with that, you cannot train when you get blood drawn like that. I've tried several times and I definitely feel it. They even tell you to wait at least 24 hours to do any type of exercise.

The first time I tried to go lift the same day (did 7 vials that morning). I walked in, did about 2 sets, took a knee for 2 minutes so I don't pass out like a fool in front of everyone, then walked right now.

I've tried doing my MMA another time, the next day, and my tank was definitely on the low side. Your body is working hard to replenish what it lost, plus your O2 intake is less.

People think 4 vials of 6ml blood is nothing. It may be nothing when you are sitting at home and eating cookies on the couch but when you are pushing your body till it breaks, you will see that it breaks sooner.

The actual plasma comes back in 24-48 hours. The actual red blood cells can take 6-8 weeks. This is the main reason I never give blood voluntarily.
 

HERESY

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Seems to be a common misconception these days. Truth is Manny never once said he's scared of needles, never. The only thing he said is giving blood makes him feel woozy/weak and didn't want to give blood on the day of the fight or whatever. Crook Arum is the one that said "i don't know, maybe the guys scared of needles" or something along those lines. Whatever, old news, just pointing out Pac never said that.


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What are you replying to? I didn't even see a Pacquiao post on the last page.
I was replying to the Pac madness on the page before I made the comment. It's there.
 
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