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Froch: Khan lost to the better man; being in Washington, DC had nothing to do with it


Khan seen here using his favorite illegal move, pulling down on Peterson’s head with both hands) By William Mackay: WBC super middleweight champion Carl Froch feels that Amir Khan needs to go back to the drawing board after his loss to Lamont Peterson last Saturday and improve his skills. And Froch isn’t buying Khan’s excuse that he lost because of the referee and because the fight took place in Peterson’s home city of Washington, DC. Froch felt Khan ran out of gas after running too much around the ring.

Froch told the dailystar.co.uk “I thought the right man won. I was a shame for Khan…He got his tactics wrong towards the end of the fight. He was moving too much at times and I think he ran out of gas a little bit…I don’t think being in Washington is the reason he lost. I feel he just lost the fight anyway…Let’s not forget the guy who beat him lost every round to Timothy Bradley in 2009.”

It’s clear that Khan lost, but I think Froch is wrong about the movement. Khan didn’t run because it was his game plan, he was basically running for his life to keep from getting knocked out. Khan was getting the worst of it each time he would try and stop for any length of time. Khan simply couldn’t handle fighting Peterson in a toe-to-toe fight for more than a couple of seconds without turning tail and running after tasting Peterson’s power shots to the head and body.

I think the body shots were really doing a number on Khan, and he couldn’t handle it. He had to run or else he would have been stopped. Froch thought Khan should have fought Peterson the way he likes to fight his opponents in the pit. Khan doesn’t have the chin or the inside fighting skills to fight like that. All those years in the amateur ranks where Khan got by on just his hand speed alone has left him with underdeveloped inside fighting skills. His inside game is like a wasted away atrophied limb that’s totally useless.

Khan probably will never have an inside game at this point because of all the wasted years where he dominated overmatched opposition with his hand speed alone. He can’t fight guys on the inside and is forced to foul [using headlocks, arm bars, bending his opponents’ head down and pushing off] to keep from getting knocked out.

Khan still can’t accept that he lost to Peterson and like a person out of touch with reality of what happened last Saturday, Khan blames the referee, the judges and the city of Washington, DC for what happened to him. It’s so sad. Khan is totally out of touch with what happened to him. He says nothing about the bogus knockdown he got credit for in the 1st round, and constantly yaks about how he lost 2 measly points for pushing off over 50 times in the fight.
 
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And STILL, light heavyweight champion of the world!!



Hopkins vs Dawson Outcome Changed To a No Decision


Chad Dawson's second round technical knockout of Bernard Hopkins has been reversed. They fought on October 15th at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California. The fight was stopped in the second round after Hopkins, who was leaning over Dawson, got pushed off and fell to the mat. During the fall, Hopkins injured his shoulder and could not continue. The referee felt Dawson did not commit a foul and made him the winner by TKO in two.

Days after their contest, the WBC disagreed with the ref's ruling and returned the light heavyweight crown to Hopkins. On Tuesday, the California State Athletic Commission held a meeting and ruled in favor of Golden Boy Promotions' appeal to reverse the decision. Hopkins was also looking to have Dawson disqualified, which didn't happen.
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Hopkins vs Dawson Outcome Changed To a No Decision


Chad Dawson's second round technical knockout of Bernard Hopkins has been reversed. They fought on October 15th at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California. The fight was stopped in the second round after Hopkins, who was leaning over Dawson, got pushed off and fell to the mat. During the fall, Hopkins injured his shoulder and could not continue. The referee felt Dawson did not commit a foul and made him the winner by TKO in two.

Days after their contest, the WBC disagreed with the ref's ruling and returned the light heavyweight crown to Hopkins. On Tuesday, the California State Athletic Commission held a meeting and ruled in favor of Golden Boy Promotions' appeal to reverse the decision. Hopkins was also looking to have Dawson disqualified, which didn't happen.
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We called it.
 
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No money in a rematch and thats what Hopkins wants at his age. Thats why he wants bute he got a taste of that Canadian money.

Besides Hopkins said he wanted an immediate rematch and dawson said no way in hell. Now that Hopkins has the belts again Dawson suddenly wants a rematch and Hopkins said he had his chance lol.

Cloud is rated #2 in the division and Dawson is #3 so i think its a better fight also stylisticly it should be a good fight, but we'll see what happens.

Dawson will also make more money against Pascal in Canada and Pascal is still rated the #1 challenger
 

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Khan pushed Peterson 50 times last Saturday and only lost two points

By Scott Gilfoid: For the Amir Khan fans who felt that referee Joe Cooper was victimizing Khan for taking two points away from him for pushing Lamont Peterson last Saturday night, someone has gone to the trouble of putting together a Youtube video showing all of the instances where Khan pushed Peterson in the fight and the final total of Khan’s pushes came to a whopping total of 50.

LOOK HERE ——> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEpQpOU5i8w)

Yes, 50 instances where Khan gave Peterson a hard shove. Since pushing is illegal boxing, as it gives a fighter an unfair advantage over his opponent, even one push is one too many.

I’ve included the link to the Youtube video for boxing fans interested in seeing for themselves Khan breaking the rules shoving Peterson around the ring like he was a little bull instead of a boxer. After I watched the video, I was sickened by what I saw. It wasn’t boxing that Khan was doing, it was someone trying to prevent a fight.

You could clearly hear referee Joe Cooper tell Khan “This is your last warning” shortly before taking away the 1st point for pushing in the 7th round. At that point, Khan had already pushed Peterson 18 times in the fight. The criticism after the fight by the HBO talking heads is that Cooper had failed to clearly give Khan a final warning before taking off the point, but you can sure here Copper say to Khan that his is last warning. It’s disappointing to see HBO miss things like this because they’re supposed to be professionals, right?

Khan looked scared at times and towards the end of the fight, he just looked exhausted from Peterson’s pressure. The pushing video didn’t included Khan’s constant headlocks and his grabbing Peterson around the head and pulling him forward. Those fouls would no doubt bring Khan’s foul total much, much higher where we could in theory have seen as many as 100 fouls from Khan last Saturday night.

Since Khan only lost a mere two points for all his fouling, I think he got a pretty good deal out of the fight, don’t you? Khan got away with a bogus knockdown in the 1st, which was a slip rather a legitimate knockdown. And then he got away with shoving, pulling down on Peterson’s head and wrapping him in head locks for pretty much the entire fight. Let’s look at it this way: What would have happened had Khan not used any of those fouls?

I think he would have been knocked out. I mean he lost anyway, but I think those fouls ultimately were a crutch to save Khan from being knocked out, because he had no inside game. So the fouling – shoving, headlocks and pulling down on the head of Peterson – were the equivalent of a crutch for someone who didn’t have the skills to beat this guy with his vastly superior inside game.
Good stuff man. Now maybe these Khan fans will shut the fuck up! Got Em!!

Froch: Khan lost to the better man; being in Washington, DC had nothing to do with it


Khan seen here using his favorite illegal move, pulling down on Peterson’s head with both hands) By William Mackay: WBC super middleweight champion Carl Froch feels that Amir Khan needs to go back to the drawing board after his loss to Lamont Peterson last Saturday and improve his skills. And Froch isn’t buying Khan’s excuse that he lost because of the referee and because the fight took place in Peterson’s home city of Washington, DC. Froch felt Khan ran out of gas after running too much around the ring.

Froch told the dailystar.co.uk “I thought the right man won. I was a shame for Khan…He got his tactics wrong towards the end of the fight. He was moving too much at times and I think he ran out of gas a little bit…I don’t think being in Washington is the reason he lost. I feel he just lost the fight anyway…Let’s not forget the guy who beat him lost every round to Timothy Bradley in 2009.”

It’s clear that Khan lost, but I think Froch is wrong about the movement. Khan didn’t run because it was his game plan, he was basically running for his life to keep from getting knocked out. Khan was getting the worst of it each time he would try and stop for any length of time. Khan simply couldn’t handle fighting Peterson in a toe-to-toe fight for more than a couple of seconds without turning tail and running after tasting Peterson’s power shots to the head and body.

I think the body shots were really doing a number on Khan, and he couldn’t handle it. He had to run or else he would have been stopped. Froch thought Khan should have fought Peterson the way he likes to fight his opponents in the pit. Khan doesn’t have the chin or the inside fighting skills to fight like that. All those years in the amateur ranks where Khan got by on just his hand speed alone has left him with underdeveloped inside fighting skills. His inside game is like a wasted away atrophied limb that’s totally useless.

Khan probably will never have an inside game at this point because of all the wasted years where he dominated overmatched opposition with his hand speed alone. He can’t fight guys on the inside and is forced to foul [using headlocks, arm bars, bending his opponents’ head down and pushing off] to keep from getting knocked out.

Khan still can’t accept that he lost to Peterson and like a person out of touch with reality of what happened last Saturday, Khan blames the referee, the judges and the city of Washington, DC for what happened to him. It’s so sad. Khan is totally out of touch with what happened to him. He says nothing about the bogus knockdown he got credit for in the 1st round, and constantly yaks about how he lost 2 measly points for pushing off over 50 times in the fight.
Froch told it like it was. However Froch is about to get owned this saturday. Got Em!!
 

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B-Hop needs to give Dawson a rematch and this time don't jump on the floor. But if he fights Cloud i'll be happy. Cloud is a monster like Kirkland.
Dude Dawson slammed him to the floor u mean. Hopkins was about to slap Dawson around until that happened. I think it wouldve been a good fight but I think Hop wouldve pulled it out. Got Em!!
 

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Yeah u certainly cant tell anything after 1.5 rounds, especially since hopkins always starts slow. He was down early in both Pascal fights before he really went to work
I wouldnt say he was down early in that 2nd fight. I think he pretty much won most of the rounds. Got Em!!
 
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Dawson and B-Hop have unfinished business that needs to be handle in the ring. That's all i'm saying Dawson waited 4 years to fight B-Hop. They need to fight again.
Will HBO put up the money though? I mean you, me, a few other people wouldn't mind a rematch, but the PPV did LESS than 50 thousand buys, a complete flop. So that means it would have to be on regular HBO. Would HBO put up about $3 million or so for the fight? Unlikely.
 

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Dawson and B-Hop have unfinished business that needs to be handle in the ring. That's all i'm saying Dawson waited 4 years to fight B-Hop. They need to fight again.
Well Dawson shouldnt have ever lost to that chump Pascal or he wouldnt have had to wait that long lol. Got Em!!
 
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Will HBO put up the money though? I mean you, me, a few other people wouldn't mind a rematch, but the PPV did LESS than 50 thousand buys, a complete flop. So that means it would have to be on regular HBO. Would HBO put up about $3 million or so for the fight? Unlikely.
holy shit hbo lost money on that shit! how much did the live gate bring in 10k? lmao