THE OFFICIAL OAKLAND RAIDERS 2009 OFFSEASON THREAD

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when was the last time you guys won more than 6 games? when was the last time you guys won a super bowl?
That has nothing to do with what we're talkin bout. Completely irrelevant.

U LOLed at a raiders bein top 3 in D. So in return I asked u when the last time 9ers D ranked 3rd? Still no answer yet u bring up dumbshit.

Truth is, 9ers suck. Raiders suck. So shut the fuck up n quit actin like the 9ers are any better. Both teams have done NOTHING the past few years.
 
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AccuScore: Chargers should coast in AFC West
By Stephen Oh, AccuScore


AFC previews

AccuScore uses past player performance statistics to describe how players perform under different environmental, match-up, and game situation conditions. Using projected starting lineups AccuScore simulates each game of the 2009 season one play at a time. By repeating the simulation 10,000 to 20,000 times per game AccuScore calculates the precise probability each team has of winning each game, winning their division and making the playoffs.


San Diego Chargers
In 2008, the Chargers played as poorly as possible, they had a win stolen from them by a bad call, and they had injuries to key players. Still, they managed to win eight games and advance in the playoffs. The Chargers have an easier schedule in 2009 in terms of the quality of opposing run defenses. This should help LaDainian Tomlinson bounce back from a sub-par 2008 season. The AFC West is one of, if not the, weakest division in the league and the Chargers are the only team in the division with a legit chance of winning 10 or more games.

Oakland Raiders
The Raiders do not have a good defense, but they are substantially better than the Broncos and Chiefs on that side of the ball. They also have a trio of good running backs. The quarterback position should be better in ’09 because if JaMarcus Russell is not better than he was last year, then Jeff Garcia will likely get more playing time. With Jay Cutler long gone, the Raiders are expected to improve from five wins to 6-plus wins, good enough for second place in the division. However, they only have an 11-percent chance of making the playoffs which is less than half the chance that other AFC Teams finishing second in their division.

Denver Broncos
Denver had one of the easiest schedules in 2008 and then-quarterback Cutler made the Pro Bowl. Without Cutler and with a slightly tougher schedule in 2009, the Broncos are averaging more than 2.5 fewer wins than the eight they won in ’08. The defense allowed 28 points per game in 2008 and even if they improve to allowing 24.5 ppg like AccuScore optimistically projects in 2009, they still are one of the worst defenses in the league. With the status of Brandon Marshall(notes) up in the air, the Broncos are not likely to match their eight wins this year.

Kansas City Chiefs
Matt Cassel(notes) showed he is a capable NFL starter with 3,600-plus yards, 21 touchdowns and 11 interceptions in 2008. However, when you consider he played alongside talent that helped produce 50 passing touchdowns and 4,800-plus yards in ’07, you could argue that he did not produce the types of stats a good QB would produce in New England. Cassel, who could miss the season opener, does not help the team improve their bad defense nor does his presence make Larry Johnson(notes) any younger. Cassel and more discipline in K.C. can help the team significantly improve on their two wins in ’08, but they are still a long way away from making the playoffs (just a 2.8 percent chance).


AFC WEST W L WIN DIV PLAYOFFS WIN 0-6 WIN 7-9 WIN 10-11 WIN 12+
Chargers 10.9 5.1 91.9% 94.0% 0.7% 19.9% 40.7% 38.7%
Raiders 6.5 9.5 4.9% 11.1% 50.8% 44.0% 4.8% 0.4%
Broncos 5.4 10.6 2.0% 3.7% 74.1% 24.5% 1.3% 0.0%
Chiefs 5.2 10.8 1.2% 2.8% 78.0% 21.2% 0.9% 0.0%
 
Sep 24, 2006
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just saw some thing on espn flipping through channels and Gruden is predicting that the raiders win more than 6 games he said he thinks they might go .500 Just thought id share ill try to find it on youtube tomorrow
 
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Russell is doin tha damn thang.. whose still hatin?? The kids bouta get tha job done just like he did in the final games last yr.... far from a bust!
 
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Anticipating Raiders’ roster cuts
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Raiders coach Tom Cable said Wednesday eight roster spots were up for grabs, while the day before he estimated between 40 of 42 were spoken for. The truth is, the final say belongs to Al Davis, and he’s not talking.

Here’s how the roster breaks down heading into Thursday night’s game against the Seattle Seahawks:


QUARTERBACKS (4, will keep 3)_JaMarcus Russell, Jeff Garcia. On the bubble: Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye.

Summary: The only question is whether it’s Gradkowski or Frye for No. 3, and it’s too close to call.

RUNNING BACKS (8, will keep 5 or 6)_Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas, Michael Bush, Oren O’Neal (FB). On the bubble: Louis Rankin, Gary Russell (FB-RB), Marcel Reece (FB), Luke Lawton (FB)

Summary: The issue of who will get the ball most often and if Cable will identify a lead back remains clear as mud, but barring a surprise cutdown-day trade involving Fargas, four spots are spoken for. Rankin has had two solid camps, Russell is versatile enough to play both positions, Reece has intriguing receiving skills out of the backfield and Lawton is a conventional block-and-catch fullback.

WIDE RECEIVERS (8, will keep 5 or 6)_Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Javon Walker. On the bubble: Nick Miller, Todd Watkins, Jonathan Holland.

Summary: Nick Miller could stick because of Justin Miller’s turf toe to return kickoffs, and might stick anyway. Watkins and Holland are in a difficult situation unless Holland’s kick coverage skills keep him around.

TIGHT ENDS (4, will keep 3)_Zach Miller, Brandon Myers. On the bubble_Tony Stewart, Darrell Strong.

Summary: Stewart has done nothing to merit being cut _ he had an outstanding camp catching the ball _ but sometimes teams just want to go young.

OFFENSIVE LINE (13 will keep between 9 or 10)_LT Mario Henderson, LG Robert Gallery, C Samson Satele, RG Cooper Carlisle, RT Cornell Green, T Khalif Barnes, C-G Chris Morris, T Erik Pears, G-T Paul McQuistan. On the bubble: T-G Mark Wilson, T Seth Wand, T James Marten, C John Wade.

Summary: As shaky as the line has been to the right of Gallery, it appears the five starters are etched in stone with the possible exception of center, where Cable floated the possibility of someone other than Satele being the starter. Based on Wade’s health, Morris would be the most likely option and regardless he’ll stick because he can play all three inside positions. Barnes will be ready by Week 2 or 3, Pears can back up at either tackle, and McQuistan can play guard or tackle. The Raiders seem to like Wilson, but he rarely stays healthy long enough to make a serious run.

DEFENSIVE LINE (11, will keep 8 or 9)_LE Greg Ellis, DT Gerard Warren, DT Tommy Kelly, RE Trevor Scott, E Jay Richardson, DT Desmond Bryant, DE Matt Shaughnessy. On the bubble: DT William Joseph, DT Terdell Sands, DE-DT Ryan Boschetti, DE Greyson Gunheim.

Summary: Cable insists Kelly is playing very well, which makes you wonder if the rest of the line is really that bad or of the coach is propping up last year’s big money re-signing. Ellis has shown flashes of still being a good pass rusher despite his age. Bryant appears to have gone from undrafted free agent to sure thing, while Scott and Richardson also seem secure. Hard to imagine Sands surviving given his inaction over the past two games, and Gunheim and Boschetti have been running often with the third team _ never a good sign.

LINEBACKERS (10, will keep 6 or 7)_WLB Thomas Howard, MLB Kirk Morrison, SLB Jon Alston, MLB-OLB Ricky Brown, MLB-OLB Isaiah Ekejiuba, OLB Slade Norris. On the bubble_OLB David Nixon, OLB Morlon Greenwood, OLB-MLB Sam Williams, MLB Chris O’Neill.

Summary: The starters have yet to be sorted out for certain, but Howard, Morrison, Alston, Brown and Ekejiuba are solid unless someone is traded or Ekejuiba’s shoulder is much worse than anyone is letting on. Throw in Norris because he’s a draft pick and healthy enough to play Thursday night. The only remaining question is whether Williams gets another year even though he’s conclusively demonstrated he’s not a starting-caliber linebacker and they already have Ekejiuba as a pure special teamer. O’Neill is already under the impression he’s headed for the practice squad

DEFENSIVE BACKS: (13, will keep 9 or 10)_RCB Nnamdi Asomugha, LCB Chris Johnson, SS Tyvon Branch, FS Hiram Eugene, CB Stanford Routt, S Mike Mitchell. On the bubble_CB Justin Miller, S Michael Huff, S Rashad Baker, CB John Bowie, S-CB Michael Hawkins, CB-S Darrick Brown, S Jerome Boyd.

Summary: Beyond the starters, nickel back Routt and Mitchell, this could sort out a number of ways. Justin Miller’s turf toe is apparently not serious, so he could be secure unless Davis is sold on Nick Miller to return kickoffs. The owner may not yet be ready to cut ties with Huff, who probably will never justify his draft status but may be worthy of the final roster. Cable is a Baker fan and never wanted him to leave, but there was never any effort made to sign him originally. Baker has also sustained concussion and a stinger since returning. Bowie, the last remnant of the Randy Moss trade, has never impressed in practice. Hawkins and Brown are classic Raider athletes in terms of size and speed. Boyd, a converted college linebacker, could probably use a year of practice squad.

SPECIALISTS_PK Sebastian Janikowski, P Shane Lechler and LS Jon Condo are in. P-PK Ricky Schmitt sticks only if one of the kickers is hurt.

Note: Johnnie Lee Higgins will be the return specialist. Justin Miller and Nick Miller are competing to be kickoff return specialist.
 
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Here is the list of players released or waived:

DBs Michael Hawkins and Rashad Baker, C John Wade-Waived/Injured

S Jerome Boyd, DB Darrick Brown, DE Greyson Gunheim, WR Jonathan Holland, OL James Marten, LB David Nixon, LB Slade Norris, LB Chris O'Neill, FB Marcel Reece, RB Gary Russell, P/K Ricky Schmitt, TE Darrell Strong, OL Mark Wilson, , DT Ryan Boschetti, QB Jeff Garcia, LB Morlon Greenwood, CB Justin Miller, DT Terdell Sands, T Seth Wand--Released

I'm just suprised about keeping Frye and Gradkowski over Garcia but I guess they felt it was the right move to make
 
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GARCIA HAD A PRETTY SHITTY PRE-SEASON. AND I THINK IT WAS BECOMMING CLEAR THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIVISIVE FORCE ON THE TEAM IF HE STAYED ON AS A BACKUP. AS GOOD OF A PLAYER AS HE IS, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC.

LET'S GO RUSSELL!!!!
 
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So it looks like they kept Rankin so wonder whats going to happen with fargas? And can't believe sam williams is still there should of kept Norris also think they should of kept holland over walkins and was hopeing Sand would have a better year this year but it really didn't look like it was still getting push all over the field so they did the right thing by cutting him.
 
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GARCIA HAD A PRETTY SHITTY PRE-SEASON. AND I THINK IT WAS BECOMMING CLEAR THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIVISIVE FORCE ON THE TEAM IF HE STAYED ON AS A BACKUP. AS GOOD OF A PLAYER AS HE IS, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC.

LET'S GO RUSSELL!!!!
i can understand the logic but coming from a wanting to win standpoint i think garcia would have been the better back-up
 
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So it looks like they kept Rankin so wonder whats going to happen with fargas? And can't believe sam williams is still there should of kept Norris also think they should of kept holland over walkins and was hopeing Sand would have a better year this year but it really didn't look like it was still getting push all over the field so they did the right thing by cutting him.

THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP RANKIN ON THE PRACTICE SQUAD. FARGAS SPOT IS SECURE.
 
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Good shit they kept Nick Miller, that fucking guy looked dope on a couple of run backs and TD catches that I saw in training camp here in Napa. He had one nice play in the preseason opener against the cowboys and this fucker is fast he reminded me of a white boy version of Steve Smith just not as physical as a receiver from what I saw so far. He also did fumble against the Niners on a kick off return but this fucking guy will be a nice pick up as he was an undrafted free agent.
 
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RICHARD SEYMOUR TO THE RAIDERS!!! HUGE PICKUP FOR US. THANK G-D AL ADDRESSED THE RUN D. THIS GUY I ONLY 29 AND STILL HAS SOME VERY GOOD YEARS AHEAD OF HIM. THIS CHANGES OUR SEASON INSTANTLY!!

Raiders trade for Patriots trade DL Richard Seymour

The Raiders addressed their defensive line troubles on Sunday by trading for five-time Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour of the New England Patriots.

Seymour is in the final year of a contract paying him $3.7 million this season. In return, the Patriots received a first-round draft choice in 2011.

"From nearly the day he arrived in 2001, Richard Seymour established himself as one of our premier players for nearly a decade," Patriots coach Bill Belichick said Sunday. "His presence has been felt as a force on the field, a respected man off it and a multiyear champion."

The 29-year-old Seymour was drafted by the Patriots sixth overall in 2011, and started 105 of 111 games over eight seasons. He made 460 tackles and 39 sacks, and in 2002 was selected to the first of five consecutive Pro Bowls.

His trade to the Raiders was first reported by ESPN.

"Any transaction we make is with the goal of what is best for our team and, as difficult as it is to part ways with a player of Richard's stature, many factors were taken into account when we considered this trade," Belichick said.

"As an organization, we feel the trade with Oakland brings sufficient value and is in the long-term interest of the club," he added. "We are extremely grateful for the huge impact Richard's elite level of performance had on our success and we wish him the very best during the rest of his career."

The Raiders' move comes one day after they with disappointing defensive tackle Terdell Sands, who did not live up to expectations when Oakland re-signed him to a four-year, $17 million contract.

Seymour is expected to play a big role in shoring up a Raiders' run defense that has been consistently ranked near the bottom of the NFL rankings the past few years.