Back when $hort moved to Atl. (i heard rumors he was pretty much pushed out the Bay too, but i know nothing about that for sure) he made a disc called Nationwide: Independance Day and had a track w/ lil jon & the eastside boys. Im pretty sure lil jon was doing nathane at that point. True, he was grindin for so so def for a long time but that wasnt going to go anywhere. If JD wanted him on, he wouldve been on. Then after the $hort disc it was pretty much a collabo from then on. Im not saying $hort gave jon all he needed but he was always there as a partner and promoter to lil jon. $hort knew anything and everything about doing it big cuz he was a godfather to that shit. Then he moved to the A and pretty much did it all over again from a different angle.